A Serious Discussion, Not every guitar reviewed on the internet deserves a 9 or 10. |
). Then I’ll just bang out some major chords to see how it sustains. While the chords are ringing, I move my right hand around to different areas of the body to see if the whole body is vibrating with the instrument. Now pull a much higher end guitar off the shelf (A Gibson or JEM or Soloist or American Standard) and do the exact same thing with that instrument. You now have perspective on your test subject. 
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Mar 5 2008, 03:23 PM
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I think you Goliath make a very good point, I also see lots of this kind of reviews, and you can immediately tell that the reviewer hasn't spent much time with the instrument, or hasn't even generally played guitar for that long.
QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Mar 5 2008, 03:44 PM)  here is the worst review i have ever read, its for the jackson KV2 on musicians friend:Omehgah!!! This Guitar rox my sox and it is great! You can do the ALEXI LAIHO thing and WHOA!! It is great! The action is great and also rox my sox and is great!!!! Buy it! OH!! Better than a Paul!!! " this is the god of bad reviews, so we can use this as an example. I wanna guitar that rox sox too!!! I bet that dude never played a Gibson 
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Mar 5 2008, 05:32 PM
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well the most important is the quality not the quocient between quality and price. Maybe for a cheap price that's the best guitar...
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) I can see you have put alot of thought behind your "argument" and I agree that alot of ratings are too high - indeed not every guitar rated 9 out of 10 really deserves that rating. |
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Mar 5 2008, 09:29 PM
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I'm too tired to the the entire post so maybe this was covered already.
Two points. A magazine depending on income from commercials will stick to positivism about brands from their customers. If I read a review I put my value in the sum up, if there's one single negative word about the item tested in a magazine/website depending on this brand I will take it there were more negative to say but they reviewer had to refrain from it. A freelancer could do it to easier get published, a paper could for it's survival. Reading private reviews I concider the reviewers experience? An experienced user could give an item score of 2 while a newbie would rate it a perfect 10. So without knowing the knowledge the reviewer has the scoreboard renders rather useless. If the reviewer would state his or her knowledge that parameter would be as important as the score itself. I mean... if a Marshall MG gets 10 points and a Mesa 5:50 gets 9 points that would actually mean something if we also know the tester. Testers experience, 1, Marshall MG = 10 points => 1 x 10 => 10 Testers experience, 10, Mesa 5:50 = 9 points => 10 x 9 =Z 90 If the 10-tester runs the Marshall it may end up on 10 points still (10 x 1) If the 1 tester runs the Mesa we'd still get 10 points (1 x 10) but we can draw our own conclusions. I've thought about keeping that information (testers experience) in the Gear review forum here to make reviews more relevant. I'll be happy to accept suggestions on a easy to maintain but still clear to view system. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Mar 6 2008, 10:27 AM
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I was in a hurry in my last post so it got a bit stumped.
I was refering to this review by Trond. I liked it: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...03&hl=pedal Anyway. It's hard to come up with a fair pointsystem. As a reader I want to know both how it compares relative to it's closest competitors ie in the same pricerange. But I would also like to know an "absolute" comparision so I can decide if it would be better to put up more money and go for better gear. For example: Beginner/Intermediate judgement: This beatiful little amp plays perfectly on the bedroom level. You don't get better blues for the money. This one is well on par with a Blues Junior to half the cost. Experienced/Pro level judgement: This is great amp, but it simple doesn't cut it outside the bedroom. Not even if mic'ed. You really need to go for heavier stuff like a Switchblade. Kinda like that info I want, hope you understand what I'm getting at. BTW would it be possible to have ready-made templates for different gear groups? Like guitar, amp, pedal, pickups... Templates that contains some preformatted fields as guidance for the reviewer, to keep the layout consistent between reviewers? -------------------- Schecter C1 Hellraiser EMG 81/85, replaced with JB/Jazz (SH4/SH2n) w. coilsplit Schecter Revenger HB-105, replaced with EMG 81/85 Stratocaster Deluxe Players Noiseless Ibanez 2550z Blackstar HT5H, Blackheart BH5H w. BH112, Laney LX35D, Line6 Pod XT, Marshall MS-2 Headphones: Sennheiser RS120 Stay tuned... |
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Mar 6 2008, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE (blindwillie @ Mar 6 2008, 10:27 AM) I was in a hurry in my last post so it got a bit stumped. I was refering to this review by Trond. I liked it: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...03&hl=pedal Anyway. It's hard to come up with a fair pointsystem. As a reader I want to know both how it compares relative to it's closest competitors ie in the same pricerange. But I would also like to know an "absolute" comparision so I can decide if it would be better to put up more money and go for better gear. For example: Beginner/Intermediate judgement: This beatiful little amp plays perfectly on the bedroom level. You don't get better blues for the money. This one is well on par with a Blues Junior to half the cost. Experienced/Pro level judgement: This is great amp, but it simple doesn't cut it outside the bedroom. Not even if mic'ed. You really need to go for heavier stuff like a Switchblade. Kinda like that info I want, hope you understand what I'm getting at. BTW would it be possible to have ready-made templates for different gear groups? Like guitar, amp, pedal, pickups... Templates that contains some preformatted fields as guidance for the reviewer, to keep the layout consistent between reviewers? I was looking for templates earlier but right now there's so much for Kris staff to do (i.e back then, now it's even more) I have to stick with what I can come up with. I made a general template to copy and paste. Better owuld be to select amp/guitar/pedal etc and get different templates per automatic. But I don't think that will happen any time soon. But templates for copy and paste, that's always possible. Now I olny have the general but of you have ideas we can make something of it. -------------------- My bands homepage
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