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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 2 2019, 12:06 PM) *
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Hello Gab,

I'm back. You may have read a long thread here yesterday. I deleted it, I'll sort everything out as I go along, only I can do that, it's no good me telling you what to tell me wink.gif

I'm going to try and become proficient in smaller chunks of work, I think I'm doing too many things per session and my brain gets them mixed up so it takes longer. I'll master one thing before learning anything else. So I'll master an element then add a new element to learn while keeping the previous element/s in my fingers.

So the dominant 7 chord progression, then concentrate on the scale to suit one of the chord shapes, then once set in stone, add the arpeggio for that chord, then the triads.

If I try to learn the arpeggios and triads for more than one chord shape it's a struggle for me to differentiate between them all.

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Hi Phil! smile.gif

Let's summarize a bit our work on blues. I've seen you mastering these elements:

- 1 Pentatonic Minor Shape
- 1 Pentatonic Major Shape
- 1 Dominant arpeggio
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Hello Gab smile.gif

Okay, I did learn the things that you mention, sort of. I don't think I internalised them enough before trying to improvise with them, I've now forgotten the arpeggios and the triads sad.gif I think part of it was because I was struggling to come up with any good improvs so kind of lost a bit of my enthusiasm.

Regarding the chords, we recently discovered "tuning issues" (at the bottom of THIS post) which turned out to be excess finger pressure, I'm going to sit each night for 20 minutes just fingering the chords and checking the pitch of each note. I really need to address this issue. There was a post on Facebook the other day from around ten years ago showing Kris playing and his left hand is soooooooo relaxed. It made me realise that I am much too tense. I strain to hold the chord shape and I think what happens is that without realising, I push my fingers onto the fretboard to hold them in place. I really need to overcome that.

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That sounds good mate! I wanted to summarize topics to remind you which are the elements that you need to learn in order to achieve our goal here: Only guitar (chords + phrasing) Blues Improv.

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Thanks Gab,

Last night (Monday) I had a lot of stuff for work to do, end of our financial year at work and production plans for this coming month.

Tonight I did two takes for the Jamming with Kris workshop.

Back to my proper practise tomorrow. It's all good though, it's got me back into my studio cool.gif

I hope the takes are what you're looking for.

Regarding my ear training, I'm currently doing the random minor second /major second test. It's hard because there is no common note in each pair but I'm consistently getting 80% so I am improving smile.gif

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Hi Phil! I’ve just heard the takes and commented here. Check it out!! 😊

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Thanks for your kind comments Gab on the Kris thread.

I'm really concentrating on reducing finger pressure. Hopefully I'll get a video of my chord playing at the weekend.

Regarding your takes in the Jammin With Kris thread, awesome playing. On your second video you do something I was talking to you about a while ago but I couldn't explain what I meant. At 00:09 you play very quickly over the backing. That's what I meant when I asked how one plays fast over a slow backing. I know it's too advanced for me at the moment but I'm just clarifying what I meant.

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Thanks Phil! I've found your takes really inspiring! smile.gif

Yes, I play a very fast lick over the backing track. How to do it? As Paul said in the video... I've worked on it! laugh.gif
At first, it's essential to be able to play fast off course. But, I do it as I would do over a slow metronome. If you have a 100 bpm metronome, you can play 4ths, 8ths, 16ths, 32th, tripplets and everything else. Does it make sense?

The lick combines some pick with legato. I can write tab for you if you'd like.



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Thanks Gab,

I am glad if a little intrigued that you found my takes inspiring, I am happy with them too smile.gif

Thanks for the offer of the TAB for that lick but I only really wanted to know what it was that you were doing for future reference.

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 8 2019, 04:56 PM) *
Thanks Gab,

I am glad if a little intrigued that you found my takes inspiring, I am happy with them too smile.gif

Thanks for the offer of the TAB for that lick but I only really wanted to know what it was that you were doing for future reference.

Cheers buddy.

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Your take is very tasty. You are not looking for flashy stuff, you are looking for beautiful melodies, and your tone is just perfect. Love it.


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Awww shucks, thanks Gab cool.gif

Bit of a delay on the chord video, I've put another video up for the "Jammin with Kris" thread wink.gif

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UPDATE:
I can play the dominant 7 chords cleanly now even on my SRV which gave me problems. Changing is slow but getting there. I'll get over this hurdle, it's taking a long long time to "unlearn" putting to much pressure on the strings but never mind, Once sorted it's sorted forever hopefully.

Its been a tough tiring week at work and tomorrow is going to be a nightmare due to some malware getting into our server and spreading through the factory computers.

Cheers buddy.

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I'll be here buddy, I'll be posting stuff this week, I'm not going anywhere.

What did you think about my second two takes for the "Jamming with Kris" collab?

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 12 2019, 11:15 AM) *
I'll be here buddy, I'll be posting stuff this week, I'm not going anywhere.

What did you think about my second two tasks for the "Jamming with Kris" collab?

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I'll check those now...


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Thanks buddy,

Because I've been consistently getting 80% on the major/minor 2nd ascending, no common tone, with no improvement, I moved on to the major/minor 2nd descending, no common tone, WOW much harder, only getting 30%.i think I'll go back to the beginning to re-train my ears.

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UPDATE: I've plugged away like a honey badger at these chords, progressing like a snail but something happened tonight, I suddenly feel much more relaxed playing the dominant seven chords, changes are much better, not lightening quick but better and I can play them on any guitar in my connection, the only one I didn't try was my acoustic. I still struggle to add the pinky to the chord with the root on the sixth string but it's getting there. Let's just hope it's not some freaky night wink.gif They should be like riding a bike, once in my fingers, never released wink.gif

I think it's because I've been really focusing on them lately and just spending a little time on the scales and arpeggios. My brain seems to work better without having to think about too much at once. I'll keep on with them until this coming weekend and put a recording up. I'm hoping I can stay relaxed when playing along with a backing.

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Great mate. Are you enjoying your practice? That's the most important thing. Also, it's very good to see that are finding the right way to you to learn and incorporate new concepts.



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 13 2019, 01:44 PM) *
Are you enjoying your practice? That's the most important thing. Also, it's very good to see that are finding the right way to you to learn and incorporate new concepts.


Thanks Gab,

I'm going to be perfectly honest with you. Before my holiday I was at the stage where I was saying to myself, "I suppose I'd better go and practise", I didn't want to tell you, because I didn't want you to think I was a quitter so I just soldiered on. I just pretended to you that everything was fine, hoping to crack it one day, but it was getting to be more and more of a chore which in turn was allowing me to get distracted with the forum and YouTube looking for inspiration which meant I wasn't putting the effort in. It was a little bit soul-destroying. Many times I thought of just quitting but I carried on regardless. (musical link is underlined wink.gif)

The first week after my holiday, after all I said while I was there (don't we all make plans on holiday that we never fulfil, more exercise, more practise, less beer etc etc) about earning it, I was all fired up then that first practise night last week (Sunday 4th August) I walked into my practise room; took a deep breath, and let out a big sigh. "Oh well" I said, "Let's get on with it". I struggled for a week to get back into it.

Last weekend (August 10th) I was in the same frame of mind but I said to myself, "Let's get these f*%&ing chords out of the way" so I focused, knuckled down and got on with it but it was like being on the chain gang, I hated it but it got the job done.

I now feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders, the chords were so hard for me for some reason, I know you have to earn it but I felt like I was never going to get them down.

I apologise for not coming clean Gab, I hope you understand.

Can you watch the video below please and take it as that is the first time you've met me, I've asked you to teach blues and blues based rock and this is all I know, (even forget you showed me triads and arpeggios). If you give me something I've covered before, it will come back to me and I will progress quickly with that hopefully.

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What should I learn next teacher? Give me something small, and when I've got it down, I'll record it and we can add the next nugget of information and join it all together when you think it's time to consolidate what I've done.

Sorry for the long email, I feel I need a fresh start now. All the stuff I was trying to learn at once was crushing me.

Cheers Gab and once again, sincerest apologies for messing you around. I think the remnants of despondency will be there for a while but they WILL dissolve if I learn in small chunks, even if those small chunks take a while, it's better for me than lots of things taking a while wink.gif

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This sounds GREAT mate. Next step:

Learn this E Dominant Arpeggio shape: (To be played over V chord)




And learn this variation for minor Pentatonic which I suggest trying over IV chord.






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Thanks Gab,

And play nothing over the A(i) chord?

I do have a question that is burning in my head but I'll leave it until my next post.

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