The Common Scales
MattE
Dec 30 2007, 07:16 AM
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Good evening to you Pavel,

I actually had a question with a hint of theory in its origin. I am finding that it is rather troubling to find a solid scale pattern for the Major and Minor scales. I am aware that there are many different variations, such as Dorian, Locrian, Mixolydian, and Lydian, to name a few, but I cant seem to find what I am perceiving as a "base" major and/or minor scale

Any assistance to my jumbled question? tongue.gif

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If i understand you right - you are mixing scales and mode. All you need is a basic major scale construction -> w-w-h-w-w-w-h (w->whole tone, h->half tone). This is a basic major scale, modes have different construction patterns so you can't go wrong there.

Minor scale is w-h-w-w-h-w-w.

Also if you want to learn all major scale boxes check this here lesson: http://www2.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-gui...e-speedpicking/

I hope i put some light on your question smile.gif

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Heh, I KNEW it - you do like theory smile.gif

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Pavel
Dec 30 2007, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Dec 30 2007, 02:39 PM) *
Heh, I KNEW it - you do like theory smile.gif


laugh.gif laugh.gif You got me now! laugh.gif laugh.gif

When i have to explain something to people i find out that i actually have some theory knowledge but apparently i don't think about it and don't think in theory kind of way while playing smile.gif

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Andrew Cockburn
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Dec 30 2007, 09:48 AM) *
laugh.gif laugh.gif You got me now! laugh.gif laugh.gif

When i have to explain something to people i find out that i actually have some theory knowledge but apparently i don't think about it and don't think in theory kind of way while playing smile.gif


I think that is the best way Pavel - if you can apply theory knowledge without even thinking about it, it is the best of all possible worlds, I rarely think in theory terms when I am playing, but I do enjoy analyzing it afterwards. Occasionally I set out to do something specific, like play in Mixolydian, but often I just play and see what comes out and afterwards think, hey, that was Mixolydian (or whatever).

I think you know a lot of theory (you must to play the way you do), you just don't think about it much or study it hard, but somewhere inside it is in there smile.gif

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Thanks Andrew! I appreciate it smile.gif

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MattE
Dec 31 2007, 08:37 AM
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I see biggrin.gif

Alright, here's a question that should probably be in the theory forum:

The following are (in order) a Major/Minor/Blues scale that my instructor gave me many a year ago tongue.gif


E||--------------------------------5-7-8-|------------------------------5-6-8-|
B||--------------------------5-7-8-------|------------------------4-6-8-------|
G||--------------------4-5-7-------------|------------------3-5-7-------------|
D||--------------4-5-7-------------------|------------3-5-7-------------------|
A||--------3-5-7-------------------------|--------3-5-------------------------|
E||--3-5-7-------------------------------|--3-5-6-----------------------------|


--------------------------3-6-||
----------------------3-6-----||
----------------3-5-6---------||
------------3-5---------------||
------3-4-5-------------------||
--3-6-------------------------||



I have practiced these scales up and down, left and right, and any other way you can think of, but the same question nags me, what mode or what not I am playing

I can move these scales up and down the fretboard easily, I'm just wondering if I am correct in doing so ohmy.gif

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You asnwered your own question - these aren't modes, they are Major/Minor/Blues scales - modes are something different to scales (check my lessons here and here if you want to understand more about them!)

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MattE
Dec 31 2007, 10:46 PM
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I see!
Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding Andrew! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Pavel @ Dec 30 2007, 05:17 AM) *
If i understand you right - you are mixing scales and mode. All you need is a basic major scale construction -> w-w-h-w-w-w-h (w->whole tone, h->half tone). This is a basic major scale, modes have different construction patterns so you can't go wrong there.

Minor scale is w-h-w-w-h-w-w.

Also if you want to learn all major scale boxes check this here lesson: http://www2.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-gui...e-speedpicking/

I hope i put some light on your question smile.gif



that lesson is great!! do you have a lesson that shows all the boxes for minor scales. (or even all the modes tongue.gif )

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Those are also the minor boxes - but when playing a minor you just start at a different box smile.gif

I believe David Wallimann has lessons with modes - i'm not a mode expert biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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