Basic And Extended Chords |
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Mar 22 2008, 02:11 PM |
Al fine Eddie,thanks for asking,hope you're doing great as well!!
I see you're having some awesome progress on 7th chords! As for extended chords,just be sure to have root,3rd and note that clarifies the chord(11th,13th or 9th). 5th is most common to miss out.same with 7th. I'll do my best to make more mode lessons as well, with some nice chords and chops,no worries. -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 23 2008, 03:27 PM |
You're absolutely right Eddie,it's almost like playing add chord,almost.
Deal is,we have only 6 strings and tunning often doesn't allow us to play all notes, specially in 13th chords(has 7 notes). -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 23 2008, 03:51 PM |
I would say that for a 9th, using the 7th is pretty important - less so for 11th, 13th etc, as Muris says
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Mar 23 2008, 03:55 PM |
I would say that for a 9th, using the 7th is pretty important - less so for 11th, 13th etc, as Muris says Spot on Andrew. The idea is actually to keep lower note next to highest one,if possible. With that technique you'll avoid kind of add chord. Now I realize the idea of 8 strings -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 23 2008, 06:45 PM |
Yeah,that'd be the key Eddie.
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Mar 23 2008, 06:48 PM |
Well there are few hard and fast rules when you move from say a piano to a guitar - on the piano you can include all the notes, on a guitar you have to make a compromise or representation beacuse of 6 strings. So for the extended chords, I'll lay out my thoughts and see if you agree Eddie:
1. Root, 3rd and 5th are always very important, in that order 2. The highest note is also important e.g. 11th or 13th 3. In order to avoid a plus chord, you need to include as many of the upper notes as you conveniently can, 7, 9, 11, 13 4. My rule of thumb would be to always include the highest or it isn;t that chord 5. try hard to include the 7th (essential for a 9th, or it is just an add9, less important for the rest) 6. Then fill in as many of the rest as you can for the voicing you are wokring on. What do you think? -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Mar 23 2008, 06:51 PM |
Well explained Andrew.
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Mar 23 2008, 09:31 PM |
Well there are few hard and fast rules when you move from say a piano to a guitar - on the piano you can include all the notes, on a guitar you have to make a compromise or representation beacuse of 6 strings. So for the extended chords, I'll lay out my thoughts and see if you agree Eddie: 1. Root, 3rd and 5th are always very important, in that order 2. The highest note is also important e.g. 11th or 13th 3. In order to avoid a plus chord, you need to include as many of the upper notes as you conveniently can, 7, 9, 11, 13 4. My rule of thumb would be to always include the highest or it isn;t that chord 5. try hard to include the 7th (essential for a 9th, or it is just an add9, less important for the rest) 6. Then fill in as many of the rest as you can for the voicing you are wokring on. What do you think? Very nicely put Andrew. You even made a few block in my head to get together -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Mar 24 2008, 03:18 PM |
That's another great question Eddie.
Order of note is another thing mostly caused by guitar tuning system. Most of the time root is lowest one except when it's marked,inversion. As for other notes,order could be in many ways. You mentioned F#-9. Point is to have G note at least in distance of 9 degrees from root note,that'd be -9. If you put G right next to root that'd be 2nd and you wouldn't have 9th. As for other notes,you can have 5th in octave higher,higher then 9th to be precise. Same with 3rd and 7th. It's matter of choice,sound,fingering etc. -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 24 2008, 04:15 PM |
Perfect! So on the guitar the extended notes (9, 11, 13) can also be played the octave lower in regards to the root note! Just like the -9 in the F#-9 chord with the root F# on the 7th fret of the B string! Right? Kind of,depends of notes order. The best way is to have root at bottom and rest of the notes above. In inversions another thing happens. But be careful with inversions,if you play alone you might not get wanted result. When you have bass guitar bellow,you're free to do whatever you want with inversions, bass note will still be the lowest one. -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 24 2008, 06:06 PM |
Question: over the D#min7-5 you are actually playing an arpeggio (root, 3rd b, 5th That's right,except that 5th is flatted ,so it's -5. -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 24 2008, 06:11 PM |
That's right,except that 5th is flatted ,so it's -5. Oh, yes! Forgot the b... |
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Mar 24 2008, 06:12 PM |
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