Effects Loop Randall Amp, Tonelab Le doesn't seem to work in loop? |
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Effects Loop Randall Amp, Tonelab Le doesn't seem to work in loop? |
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Feb 1 2010, 05:01 PM |
Aloha everyone,
I'm trying to figure out why my Tonelab doesn't seem to work through my effects loop on my Randall RG80. I have to turn up my amp volume almost half way just to hear it All my output levels are set correctly, so when I run straight into the amp all is fine. I've read on the net "the effects loop signal level and impedance was designed for stomp boxes, not multi-effects units." regarding someone else and there issues around an effects loop not on a randall amp... but it got me thinking... Is it possible that the older amps (mine is over 20 years old... A classic almost) cannot handle the modern day multi-effects processors? Here is the link to the discussion that i was reading if you are interested in where my quote came from. http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=352321 I know the issue is not the same as mine, but it could explain why I still get a signal just not enough of one. Also I don't get any real distortion for my pedal board, with the distortion turned all the way up, and the volume on the amp up pretty high, it is quiet and clean Any insight would be great... Thanks!
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Feb 2 2010, 04:17 AM |
if the tonelab is with the gain up the return shouldn't be a problem and you would hear just a very low volume sound, but distorted.
i think something is wrong with ur effects loop, it should work, never tried that amp tho. hope you can get it fix somehow! WAIT, i asume you are plugin your guitar on the tonelab right? they correct signal would be (if you wanna use the tonelab a pre amp too) guitar, tonelab input, and from the tonelab output directly into the effect loop return maxed. Then you can control the signal volume on the tonelab. That would be the right thing to do, if you are connecting the guitar to the amp, and then the tonelab on the loop you will get two pre amps in a row, that can work if you use the tonelab just as modulation effects or reverb/delay effects. This post has been edited by Adrian Figallo: Feb 2 2010, 04:22 AM -------------------- Check my Instructor Profile Rockers! Got a Blog too!, www.adriantracks.com Follow me on facebook and youtube! -Youtube |
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Feb 2 2010, 02:18 PM
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[quote name='Hammerhead' date='Feb 1 2010, 05:01 PM' post='460407']
Aloha everyone, I'm trying to figure out why my Tonelab doesn't seem to work through my effects loop on my Randall RG80. I have to turn up my amp volume almost half way just to hear it All my output levels are set correctly, so when I run straight into the amp all is fine. I've read on the net "the effects loop signal level and impedance was designed for stomp boxes, not multi-effects units." regarding someone else and there issues around an effects loop not on a randall amp... but it got me thinking... Is it possible that the older amps (mine is over 20 years old... A classic almost) cannot handle the modern day multi-effects processors? Here is the link to the discussion that i was reading if you are interested in where my quote came from. http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=352321 just a thought , have you tried a simple peddle to see if that works? This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Feb 2 2010, 02:19 PM |
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Feb 2 2010, 02:30 PM |
OK I tried it and the Volume knob on the amp does not work... There is plenty of volume from the Tonelab ( Tiny little knob on the back of the unit)... but it bypasses the controls of the amp Try the master volume on the amp, that should do it -------------------- Check my Instructor Profile Rockers! Got a Blog too!, www.adriantracks.com Follow me on facebook and youtube! -Youtube |
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Feb 2 2010, 04:02 PM |
If you get almost no sound when you have it plugged into the fx loop all I can think of is that the output from the Tonelab is too low. There's usually an ouput level control knob, like someone said before probably at the back of the unit.
Also check wether the fx loop is switchable between parallell and serial. Tha'll give different sound results. There could also be a dB switch for the fx loop itself to alter it 0 to -10dB or similar to cut/boost the fx signal. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Feb 3 2010, 11:45 PM |
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Could you please give us clear explanations how you connected the gear, like this: GUITAR>AMP INPUT FX LOOP: AMP SEND>TONELAB INPUT>TONELAB OUTPUT>AMP RETURN is this how you used and got a weak signal? If so check this: 1. is the preset you are using too low? 2. is the guitar volume amplified whole way? 3. are you using correct ins/outs on the tonelab? 4. are the knobs on the amp on appropriate settings? 5. are all the cables good? -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Feb 5 2010, 01:53 AM |
From what you said, it may be possible that the SEND output of your amp feeds very little signal to the Tonelab. This would explain why there is no distortion and punch. On the side note, have you tried to amplify both the preamp and poweramp volume knobs?
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Feb 5 2010, 02:04 PM
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have you ever just used a simple fx - stomp box
if it doesn't work with that it won't work with anything else |
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