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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 8 2015, 02:45 PM

Hello guys! This is a ear training workout that I'll start specially for those students that have problems connecting mind, ear, voice and guitar. I consider this essential for every guitarist that want to take music seriously since it's the only way to be able to learn songs that you like and to compose your own music.

This workout is open for everybody, no matter what's your current level. There is some stuff that you will do alone, and there are some exercises that you will have to respond and share with me.

As I want that everybody takes the time necessary to work on each assignment, please ask all the questions that you need, share your experience, and try to avoid sharing results in your posts, please use another thread or just a TXT file to avoid spoilers for other students.




ASSIGNMENT 1: Intervals I


- An interval is the distance between two notes. If you are more curious about them: You can learn a lot http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=48905&st=0#entry644329. But it's not necessary for this workout.

1. Learning and singing the intervals

We will start learning 3 different intervals: Major 3rd, Perfect 5th and Octave.



All the intervals below start from A note. The second 3 ones are the same intervals but starting from a higher octave.

What do to during this week?
- Learn and play on guitar each of those shapes.
- Play the first note, sing it, play the second note and sing it.
- Play both notes and then sing the interval.
- Try to remember the sound of each interval to be able to sing it when you are not with your guitar in hand. Go for a walk and keep on singing them, then when you get back, check if you were doing it correctly.

2. Exercise

- Download the following audio in which I played the intervals in different orders. Right down the order of intervals played. Use your guitar to help you but also sing along with the intervals. You can off course pause the track and check the examples as many times as you need before you write the name of the interval played. Once you are sure, share the results on your Gab's Army thread and notify me here.

 Assignment_1___Exercise.mp3 ( 3.4MB ) : 330


- Once you did this exercise, as a friend to play intervals to recognize them or record a long track playing intervals in different orders and then try to recognize each one.
- Also, while listening to solos or riffs that you like, try to recognize when this intervals are used. Do this all the time, when you listen music on radio, tv, films, on the streets.

Who is in?


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Frequently asked questions:

- I am beginner at guitar, can I join? YES!
- I am advanced with guitar but my ear is not strong, can I join? YES!
- Is it free? YES! but I open to receive some of your favorite sweets or biscuits. laugh.gif
- Do I need a lot of available time? NO! The tasks are not very big so you can keep your current life and routine and dedicate 10 minutes every day do this.
- Is ear training important? Your ear is the one that will define everything related your playing and composing skills. He will be the only real and honest judge, but obviously if it's well trained, if not, he will be your worst enemy!

Posted by: Tom51 Apr 8 2015, 03:18 PM

That's awesome - I am in.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 8 2015, 03:22 PM

QUOTE (Tom51 @ Apr 8 2015, 11:18 AM) *
That's awesome - I am in.


Great! You're welcome Tom!

Posted by: mad Apr 8 2015, 03:31 PM

That's great Gab!
I think I definately need this biggrin.gif

And I'll share some of my favourite sweets..


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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 8 2015, 03:50 PM

Interesting package! You're welcome! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 8 2015, 04:27 PM

Thank you very much Gab,

I'm most definitely in.



Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 8 2015, 04:40 PM

Oh! I love the Fizz feeling!! Thanks for this one.

You're welcome Phil! smile.gif

Posted by: Miltonex Apr 8 2015, 04:41 PM

Cool!! I´m in!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 8 2015, 06:01 PM

Welcome Miltonex! smile.gif

Posted by: Lukasz Drazek Apr 8 2015, 06:11 PM

I'm in!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 8 2015, 07:37 PM

QUOTE (Lukasz Drazek @ Apr 8 2015, 02:11 PM) *
I'm in!


Welcome Lukasz!! smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 8 2015, 08:48 PM

I've just had a go and I was doing ok until going above the second octave, I sounded like a squealing cat. I used my Korg TM-50 to check my vocal notes, I didn't use it to get there though, only to look when I thought I had it right.

I enjoyed it though, too much really because it took all of my practice time away. No discipline rolleyes.gif

Thanks Gab

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 9 2015, 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Apr 8 2015, 04:48 PM) *
I've just had a go and I was doing ok until going above the second octave, I sounded like a squealing cat. I used my Korg TM-50 to check my vocal notes, I didn't use it to get there though, only to look when I thought I had it right.

I enjoyed it though, too much really because it took all of my practice time away. No discipline rolleyes.gif

Thanks Gab



hehehe well done Phil! I'm not expecting that you become singers with this but don't be shy and sing! It will help a lot during this workout.

Posted by: richmclean Apr 9 2015, 05:13 PM

I would like to join....I am not currently a member of Gab's Army but I want to join.

Thanks,
Rich

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 9 2015, 08:42 PM

Hello Gab,

I've put my first answers up in my thread wink.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 10 2015, 01:49 PM

QUOTE (richmclean @ Apr 9 2015, 01:13 PM) *
I would like to join....I am not currently a member of Gab's Army but I want to join.

Thanks,
Rich



Great! You're welcome! Let me know when you have the answers and I'll create a thread for you. wink.gif

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Apr 9 2015, 04:42 PM) *
Hello Gab,

I've put my first answers up in my thread wink.gif

Cheers

Phil


Checked!

Posted by: richmclean Apr 10 2015, 02:54 PM

Hi Gabriel,
I have my answers ready to post. Please create me a thread when you have time. Thank you.

Posted by: Vince09 Apr 10 2015, 07:32 PM

Hi Gab!I would like also to join...can I ? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 10 2015, 10:01 PM

QUOTE (richmclean @ Apr 10 2015, 10:54 AM) *
Hi Gabriel,
I have my answers ready to post. Please create me a thread when you have time. Thank you.


Done! http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=54198

QUOTE (Vince09 @ Apr 10 2015, 03:32 PM) *
Hi Gab!I would like also to join...can I ? biggrin.gif


Sure! smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 10 2015, 10:06 PM

I've put my latest results up too, ear recognition only wink.gif

Posted by: richmclean Apr 11 2015, 01:28 AM

I've posted my answers to the ear recognition first exercise. Thanks.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 12 2015, 07:00 PM

Thanks for your submits guys! I've already checked and commented on your threads. wink.gif

Posted by: petr Apr 14 2015, 10:36 AM

Hi Gab,
thanks for doing this workout, just a little suggestion - please could you record also your voice and say the consecutive number before each interval? E.g. one, two, three ... before playing the next one. That would make it a lot easier when writing down the results. Also I think you could attach the results as a file so everybody can check them instead of you doing the check.

For sure doing the ear training with a guitar is the best, but for some cases when you dont have a guitar handy - there are also some mobile apps, just run search for "ear trainer" on google play.

Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 14 2015, 01:22 PM

Hi Petr! Thanks for the input. I think that your idea is great so I'll apply it on the next assignment. wink.gif

Have you worked on this one?

Posted by: petr Apr 14 2015, 08:44 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 14 2015, 12:22 PM) *
Hi Petr! Thanks for the input. I think that your idea is great so I'll apply it on the next assignment. wink.gif

Have you worked on this one?


Sure I did, checked the results here
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=54198
Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 14 2015, 08:47 PM

QUOTE (petr @ Apr 14 2015, 04:44 PM) *
Sure I did, checked the results here
http://http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=54198
Petr


Link is broken.

Posted by: petr Apr 14 2015, 09:09 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 14 2015, 07:47 PM) *
Link is broken.


Fixed now. I used the syntax from "BB code help" but now i see that just the simple link without any tags works.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 16 2015, 03:17 PM

QUOTE (petr @ Apr 14 2015, 05:09 PM) *
Fixed now. I used the syntax from "BB code help" but now i see that just the simple link without any tags works.


Ah ok! Now I got it! Great. wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 17 2015, 04:18 PM

Ok guys, great to see many GMCers working on this workout. Today I'll share a new assignment which is a bit more difficult.


ASSIGNMENT 2: Intervals II

1. Learning and singing the intervals

This week we will cover all the intervals that form a major scale.



All the intervals below start from A note. If you play all those notes you'll get A major scale.

What do to during this week?
- Learn and play on guitar each of those shapes.
- Play the first note, sing it, play the second note and sing it.
- Play both notes and then sing the interval.
- Try to remember the sound of each interval to be able to sing it when you are not with your guitar in hand. Go for a walk and keep on singing them, then when you get back, check if you were doing it correctly.

2. Exercise

- Download the following audio in which I played the intervals in different orders. Right down the order of intervals played. Use your guitar to help you but also sing along with the intervals. You can off course pause the track and check the examples as many times as you need before you write the name of the interval played. Once you are sure, share the results on your Gab's Army thread and notify me here.

 Assignment_II.mp3 ( 1.75MB ) : 115



- Once you did this exercise, as a friend to play intervals to recognize them or record a long track playing intervals in different orders and then try to recognize each one.
- Also, while listening to solos or riffs that you like, try to recognize when this intervals are used. Do this all the time, when you listen music on radio, tv, films, on the streets.

Who is in?

Posted by: Miltonex Apr 18 2015, 09:46 PM

Wow a lot of work for this week but I wanna improve my ears so I just go for it!!! Thank you Gab

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 18 2015, 11:15 PM

Hello Gab,
I've put my initial answers in.
Thanks
Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 20 2015, 02:24 AM

Great guys! Thanks for notifying. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 20 2015, 08:26 AM

I find it harder to recognise tones when they are played with gain up than I do when played clean. Any ideas why?
Thanks Gab

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 20 2015, 02:54 PM

Hi Phil, this off course depends on how much distortion you are adding, but as the term says, distortion adds complexity into the audio wave so maybe this can confuse you a bit more than a totally clean signal.

Check out this video to see how a sound is affected when the wave is not totally sine. When adding distortion, the top of the sine is cut, generating extra harmonics that make the sound more complex, as well as the resulting waveform. Adding distortion doesn't mean converting the waveform to square, but this works as an example to see how the sound is affected.



I think that maybe the extra harmonics confuse you a bit, but if you pay attention, the main note is still dominating there, you just have to be more selective.



Posted by: Phil66 Apr 20 2015, 03:14 PM

Thanks Gab,
Very interesting video. I found that up to 4k the square wave sounded slightly sharper to me but at 4k and upwards the sine wave sounded slightly sharper than the square wave. I could hardly hear the 12k, I had to turn up my sound to full to be able to hear it. I was also wondering why you chose to record the samples a little bit dirty, was it to make it a little bit harder?
Cheers
Phil


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 20 2015, 10:11 PM

Well, honestly I didn't do it to make things trickier, but if you find it more difficult, that's great because you need to get used to decipher the root tone on a distorted sound. And things will become more difficult on the next assignment so stay tuned. smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 21 2015, 08:46 PM

No worries, I'm really enjoying it, it's like a puzzle challenge smile.gif

Any chance of pinning it Gab?

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 21 2015, 11:57 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Apr 21 2015, 04:46 PM) *
No worries, I'm really enjoying it, it's like a puzzle challenge smile.gif

Any chance of pinning it Gab?



Hi Phil, I didn't get the question... what do you mean? blink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 22 2015, 07:25 AM

Sorry Gab,

I meant could you pin the thread to the top of the forum list wink.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 23 2015, 02:15 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Apr 22 2015, 03:25 AM) *
Sorry Gab,

I meant could you pin the thread to the top of the forum list wink.gif

Cheers

Phil


Hi Phil! The thread is now moved! It's on the important topics part of the Practice Room sub forum. smile.gif

This is to officially invite every GMCer to start following this workout.

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 23 2015, 07:03 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 23 2015, 02:15 PM) *
Hi Phil! The thread is now moved! It's on the important topics part of the Practice Room sub forum. smile.gif

This is to officially invite every GMCer to start following this workout.


Hello Gab,

It's still in the "Forum topics" section, not pinned to the important topics wink.gif

Can you try to explain something please? My Korg TM-50 is a little bit weird. When I'm checking my voice for the Major 6th (F#) my tuner (I am using the built in mic) jumps rapidly between F# and B. It also does it with the guitar signal from the speakers but not if I plug the guitar in.

Any ideas?

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 24 2015, 08:37 PM

Hi Phil, I mean that it's now at important topics when you enter to PRACTICE ROOM sub forum:



About your issue with the tuner, I'm not sure about the reason but maybe there is some kind of fluctuation related to the fact that the sound that reaches the mic is not totally clean / clear. The specific intervals confused could be related to some acoustic / physics concepts related to harmonics.




Posted by: Phil66 Apr 24 2015, 08:56 PM

Got it, sorry Gab, my mistake rolleyes.gif


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 24 2015, 09:51 PM

ASSIGNMENT 3: Moving intervals

Hello guys! welcome to the assignment 3 of this workout. In the previous works, you've learnt to play different intervals starting from note A. This "shapes" are movable so you can get the 3 major, or perfect 5th of every note just by keeping the same shape.

For example, this is a major third starting first from A, then from D and finally from F:




2. Exercise

This week's exercise is based on the "movable" concept so you will have to recognize intervals starting from different roots. This makes the recognition more difficult because you lose the previous root reference with each new interval. The exercise requires that you only write the interval heard, not the specific notes.

 Assignment_3.mp3 ( 1.44MB ) : 112


As this workout is now open for everybody at the Forum, you can share your results here but uploading a txt file to avoid spoilers for other students, ok?

Posted by: Phil66 Apr 26 2015, 09:22 PM

Answers in my thread Gab. Wow, that was hard laugh.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 27 2015, 04:25 PM

Thanks Phil and all the other GMCers that have already shared the results with me. You still have a few days to practice on this one before I share the next assignment.


Posted by: petr May 2 2015, 07:54 PM

Hi guys,
Gab asked me to share my way of recognizing the basic intervals.
I just associated each interval with a song which starts with that interval. So when I hear an interval, I guess which one it is and I try to sing the first two notes of the song associated with that interval.

Just for example this child song starts with Major 3rd

so when I hear an interval and I think it is a major 3rd, I sing the start of that song which confirms it or not.

My results  ear_training.txt ( 158bytes ) : 112


Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 4 2015, 07:12 PM

ASSIGNMENT 4: Moving intervals Pt. II

Hello guys! welcome to the new assignment for this week. If you've done the previous one you surely noted that we only used 3rd, 5th and octave to make things easier. Now we go one step forward! You have to be able to recognize all intervals that we've learnt starting from different roots.

Exercise

This week's exercise is again based on the "movable" concept so you will have to recognize intervals starting from different roots. This makes the recognition more difficult because you lose the previous root reference with each new interval. The exercise requires that you only write the interval heard, not the specific notes.

 Assignment_4.mp3 ( 1.85MB ) : 114

Posted by: Phil66 May 4 2015, 09:17 PM

QUOTE (petr @ May 2 2015, 07:54 PM) *
Hi guys,
Gab asked me to share my way of recognizing the basic intervals.
I just associated each interval with a song which starts with that interval. So when I hear an interval, I guess which one it is and I try to sing the first two notes of the song associated with that interval.

Just for example this child song starts with Major 3rd

so when I hear an interval and I think it is a major 3rd, I sing the start of that song which confirms it or not.

My results  ear_training.txt ( 158bytes ) : 112


Petr


Thanks Petra,

That's great. My problem is that I don't know, at the moment, if I'm singing the correct interval without checking on a tuner. I guess I have a long way to go before my mind and ears are working together.

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 5 2015, 02:51 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 4 2015, 05:17 PM) *
Thanks Petra,

That's great. My problem is that I don't know, at the moment, if I'm singing the correct interval without checking on a tuner. I guess I have a long way to go before my mind and ears are working together.

Cheers

Phil



However, I wonder, when singing a very known song, for example "happy birthday", do you notice if you sing it on pitch or not?


Posted by: Phil66 May 5 2015, 10:06 PM

To be honest Gab, I don't think I do notice if I sing along with recorded version but, as usual don't get time to adjust pitch. It's as though my brain doesn't remember the tune correctly. I guess this comes with time if you aren't born with a good ear. I know this ear training is working though. I was in a bar today and a bloke's phone kept on getting messages, I think I got the intervals that were in the notification but had nothing to check with.
One day, along with this training course which is brilliant, I will be able to work out simple melodies. I'm hoping this course will eventually go down the road of the student having to work out simple 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 note melodies and beyond.

Thanks for this Gab, I really appreciate your help and I'm sure I speak on behalf of all GMCers who are using this course.

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 6 2015, 05:51 AM

Hi Phil! Thanks for your words. I'm glad that you find this course helpful. There are many students following it, sending me results via PM and also using the mentoring threads. Everybody is getting correct answers so it seems that GMCer's ears are being polished. smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 6 2015, 09:18 AM

I'm hoping the day will come when I recognise the interval completely without having to use my guitar and a diagram to work it out cool.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 7 2015, 03:36 PM

It will come Phil, just keep on the hard work. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 7 2015, 04:13 PM

Thanks Gab,
I am starting to recognise and play the third and know it's a third, I can hear and play the fifth sometimes but I don't know it's a fifth until i check the diagram.

Hope this makes sense rolleyes.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Phil66 May 9 2015, 11:25 PM

Ello Gab,
Answers to assignment 4 have been put in my thread. Cheers.
biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 10 2015, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 9 2015, 07:25 PM) *
Ello Gab,
Answers to assignment 4 have been put in my thread. Cheers.
biggrin.gif


Thanks! Checked.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 12 2015, 08:34 PM

Ok guys, it's great to receive many answers from students at my personal board and also via PM. Remember that everybody can join, and if you arrived here late, there is no problem, start with the first assignment and write me when it's ready. You can join at any time and take your own time to master the assignments.

A new assignment will be published soon, stay tuned. wink.gif

Posted by: Chris S. May 13 2015, 02:52 AM

Listened to the track for assignment I once and only once - and wrote down my answers.

Posted them in my thread!

I know for a fact I didn't get them all right but I think I did okay tongue.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 13 2015, 04:03 PM

QUOTE (Chris S. @ May 12 2015, 10:52 PM) *
Listened to the track for assignment I once and only once - and wrote down my answers.

Posted them in my thread!

I know for a fact I didn't get them all right but I think I did okay tongue.gif



Thanks Chris! I just checked your answers there. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 13 2015, 09:48 PM

From now on I am going to listen, write down what I think are the answers then do the guitar check. I will submit answer from the guitar check BUT, if I got them right, or what i think is right, ie; they match my listening answer I will put that answer in BOLD

Will that be ok Gab?

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 15 2015, 05:03 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 13 2015, 05:48 PM) *
From now on I am going to listen, write down what I think are the answers then do the guitar check. I will submit answer from the guitar check BUT, if I got them right, or what i think is right, ie; they match my listening answer I will put that answer in BOLD

Will that be ok Gab?

Cheers

Phil



That sounds good Phil.

Posted by: Phil66 May 15 2015, 05:47 PM

Great Gab,
At least it will show if my true recognition is improving. I know my note matching with guitar is getting quicker but this is the next step I think smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 15 2015, 05:59 PM

ASSIGNMENT 5: Harmonic Intervals

We have been working on melodic intervals, now we will get into harmonic intervals which happens basically when the notes are played at the same time. When played harmonically, intervals can evoke very different qualities. Some intervals merge really well generating a stable tone and described as consonants, other ones clash a bit, generating a unstable tone and are defined as dissonant.

Play the different intervals and hear the different textures that you can get:



Unison, octave and 5th have good consonance which is described as "perfect consonance". Besides the sound of each note, you'll here a stable texture generate by the sound of both. 4th is considered consonance unless it's played on a low register. Maj 3rd is also considered consonance and create a very nice and rich texture, while Maj 6th is also consonance but less stable than Maj 3rd. Finally 2nd and 7th are considered dissonance.


Exercise:

- Download the following audio in which I played the harmonic intervals in different orders. Write down the order of intervals played. Use your guitar to help you but also sing along with the intervals. You can off course pause the track and check the examples as many times as you need before you write the name of the interval played.

 Assignment_5.mp3 ( 1.85MB ) : 85


Let me know when you have the results to check them. smile.gif

Posted by: petr May 15 2015, 08:24 PM

Hi Gab,
my results attached,
 a5.txt ( 51bytes ) : 90


tx Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 16 2015, 04:40 PM

QUOTE (petr @ May 15 2015, 04:24 PM) *
Hi Gab,
my results attached,
 a5.txt ( 51bytes ) : 90


tx Petr



That's perfect Petr! Good job. Was it tricky for you? Did you check with guitar or only with ears and voice?



Posted by: petr May 16 2015, 07:34 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 16 2015, 03:40 PM) *
That's perfect Petr! Good job. Was it tricky for you? Did you check with guitar or only with ears and voice?


Hi Gab,
it has been first time I tried to recognize harmonic intervals, so I played them on the guitar to hear how they sound. But I could do it without the guitar now. It was not tricky because it was all from one root only, I guess next assignment will be using different roots smile.gif so lets see
Petr

Posted by: Phil66 May 16 2015, 09:36 PM

Had a go at this, I played the intervals on the guitar first then tried to listen and recognise. Didn't do very well.

I'll try again tomorrow.

Thanks

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 18 2015, 04:13 PM

QUOTE (petr @ May 16 2015, 03:34 PM) *
Hi Gab,
it has been first time I tried to recognize harmonic intervals, so I played them on the guitar to hear how they sound. But I could do it without the guitar now. It was not tricky because it was all from one root only, I guess next assignment will be using different roots smile.gif so lets see
Petr


Great Petr! Yeah, the next assignment will be a bit trickier. You can start training your ear to recognize harmonic intervals from different roots. Experiment with it.

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 16 2015, 05:36 PM) *
Had a go at this, I played the intervals on the guitar first then tried to listen and recognise. Didn't do very well.

I'll try again tomorrow.

Thanks


Ok, take your time, that's why this workout includes the word "training". wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 20 2015, 04:27 PM

Hey guys! Anybody else working on assignment 5?

Posted by: Tom51 May 20 2015, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 20 2015, 03:27 PM) *
Hey guys! Anybody else working on assignment 5?



Ys. Is deadline today? Then I just want to check again and would post then-

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 20 2015, 05:51 PM

QUOTE (Tom51 @ May 20 2015, 01:22 PM) *
Ys. Is deadline today? Then I just want to check again and would post then-


No Tom, take your time. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 20 2015, 08:17 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 20 2015, 04:27 PM) *
Hey guys! Anybody else working on assignment 5?


I am back on it Gab, as discussed in PM smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 22 2015, 03:18 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 20 2015, 04:17 PM) *
I am back on it Gab, as discussed in PM smile.gif



Great! I just checked your answers.

Posted by: HiimAlex May 22 2015, 08:37 PM

I have posted my answers now in my thread.

Posted by: Phil66 May 22 2015, 08:38 PM

Submitted another attempt. unsure.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 23 2015, 04:15 PM

Checked both! Thanks guys! wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 27 2015, 03:38 PM

ASSIGNMENT 6: Harmonic Intervals II

Hello guys! Congrats to all the GMCers that are working on this workout. I noticed that everybody is getting great results and most of the answer that I'm receiving via PM and at my personal board are always very good.

On this new assignment, we will continue working on harmonic intervals but this time, as we did with melodic intervals, we will start moving them. This means that we will have different roots so things will become more difficult now.

Please download this file and take your time to recognize each of the intervals. You don't need to tell me the name of the notes but you have to write the harmonic intervals.

 Assignment_6.mp3 ( 1.85MB ) : 93



Please keep me updated! wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 27 2015, 08:45 PM

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This is hard laugh.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 28 2015, 04:29 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 27 2015, 04:45 PM) *
wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif WOW wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif

This is hard laugh.gif



yes, it is. Take your time with each example. Try to hear each note isolated and then sing the interval. If you do so, it should be similar to previous assignments.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 30 2015, 05:46 PM

Any brave heart working on assignment 6? smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 May 30 2015, 05:54 PM

I've just been trying to work them out listening to the mp3 on my phone in hotel room. I think I recognise some but need my guitar to check.


Posted by: Tom51 May 30 2015, 06:01 PM

Yes, working on it but even with guitar not very successful yet. Have not find the right way how to do it.

Posted by: petr May 31 2015, 10:17 PM

Hi Gab,
pls check my results attached,
 a6.txt ( 94bytes ) : 91


tx Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 1 2015, 02:22 PM

QUOTE (Tom51 @ May 30 2015, 02:01 PM) *
Yes, working on it but even with guitar not very successful yet. Have not find the right way how to do it.


The trick is listening to this one three times. The first time identify the lower note, then the higher note. Finally, the third time you listen to it you should singe both, one after the other and try to recognize the interval. It can be tricky but after some practice you should be able to hear and differentiate the two notes.

QUOTE (petr @ May 31 2015, 06:17 PM) *
Hi Gab,
pls check my results attached,
 a6.txt ( 94bytes ) : 91


tx Petr



Good job Petr! Everything is perfect. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 1 2015, 09:06 PM

Posted my attempt in my thread Gab.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 2 2015, 02:38 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 1 2015, 05:06 PM) *
Posted my attempt in my thread Gab.



Feedback is ready there! (http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=53694&view=findpost&p=712528) Thanks Phil!

Posted by: HiimAlex Jun 5 2015, 11:22 PM

Posted the answers in my thread Gabriel

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 6 2015, 05:42 PM

QUOTE (HiimAlex @ Jun 5 2015, 07:22 PM) *
Posted the answers in my thread Gabriel


Checked and commented! wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 11 2015, 12:47 PM

Hello Gab,

Is there another assignment coming or should we keep working on 1-6? smile.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 11 2015, 02:54 PM

ASSIGNMENT 7: Harmonic Intervals + Melodic Intervals

Hey guys! Thanks and congrats to all the students that are following successfully this course.

On this new assignment we will combine everything we've been working to review both harmonic and melodic intervals in order to be sure that you are ready to continue.

This audio file include both types of intervals starting from different roots.

 Assignment_7.mp3 ( 1.85MB ) : 87


Posted by: Phil66 Jun 11 2015, 08:46 PM

Thanks Gab, this sounds like a good one. smile.gif

Posted by: petr Jun 11 2015, 09:50 PM

Hi Gab
pls check my results  A7.txt ( 100bytes ) : 86

thanks Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 12 2015, 04:27 PM

QUOTE (petr @ Jun 11 2015, 05:50 PM) *
Hi Gab
pls check my results  A7.txt ( 100bytes ) : 86

thanks Petr



Hi mate, great job! There is only 1 wrong.

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 15 2015, 09:25 PM

I've put my answers in my thread Gab smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 16 2015, 02:35 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 15 2015, 05:25 PM) *
I've put my answers in my thread Gab smile.gif


Checked! wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 17 2015, 09:22 PM

I put some more answers in yesterday Gab wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 19 2015, 04:30 PM

Thanks mate, checked!

Posted by: Phil66 Jun 22 2015, 07:42 PM

Put "answers" in my thread Gab unsure.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jun 23 2015, 03:28 PM

You have new feedback there. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 4 2015, 09:25 PM

Any more coming Gab? smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 5 2015, 01:34 AM

Sure, I'm preparing new stuff for this week. Stay tuned. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 5 2015, 08:59 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 5 2015, 01:34 AM) *
Sure, I'm preparing new stuff for this week. Stay tuned. wink.gif


Thanks Gab. smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 6 2015, 04:19 PM

ASSIGNMENT 8: Minor Intervals

Hey guys! On this new assignment we will introduce the minor intervals that can be found in between the major and perfect ones that we already worked. At first please learn, play and sing each of them:



 Minor_intervals.gp5 ( 1.64K ) : 75



and then, when you feel comfortable work on this exercise and share with me the answers.

 Assignment_8.mp3 ( 1.85MB ) : 86

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 6 2015, 08:52 PM

Answers in my thread Gab. smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 7 2015, 04:41 PM

Checked Phil, well done!

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 8 2015, 09:23 PM

Thanks Gab,

I have found this site to be really good.

http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/majmin/lessons.html there are trainers at the bottom of each page.

http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/majmin/trainers.html

Hope they help anyone that needs it wink.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 10 2015, 04:11 PM

Interesting links Phil! Thank you. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 10 2015, 08:11 PM

Thanks Gab,

I've had to edit the post, one was repeated and one didn't work rolleyes.gif

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 12 2015, 02:07 AM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 10 2015, 04:11 PM) *
Thanks Gab,

I've had to edit the post, one was repeated and one didn't work rolleyes.gif

Cheers

Phil




Thanks Phil! wink.gif

Anybody else following this workout? Remember that you can start at any moment with the first assignments.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 18 2015, 09:15 PM

ASSIGNMENT 9: Minor harmonic intervals

Hello guys! This new assignment is based on minor intervals played harmonically starting from the same root.

Please download the following audio and try to recognize each of them. The root is always D.

 Assignment_9.mp3 ( 1.85MB ) : 78


Who is in?


Posted by: HiimAlex Jul 18 2015, 09:19 PM

I am in!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 18 2015, 09:22 PM

QUOTE (HiimAlex @ Jul 18 2015, 05:19 PM) *
I am in!



Great! You're welcome. smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Jul 19 2015, 08:25 AM

I'm in when I return. I'll have a listen later but I don't think I'll manage it without my guitar.

Cheers Gab

Posted by: Tom51 Jul 19 2015, 10:56 AM

I will join any ear training assignment as I want to end up being able to transcribe a simply song or melody ohmy.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 19 2015, 10:11 PM

Great guys. I'll wait for your answers. smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 26 2015, 07:52 PM

Ok guys, the next assignment is close, anybody else working on the last assignment?


Posted by: Phil66 Jul 26 2015, 11:03 PM

I've been trying Gab but I need my guitar. Only six days left and I will put in my answers wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 27 2015, 03:00 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 26 2015, 07:03 PM) *
I've been trying Gab but I need my guitar. Only six days left and I will put in my answers wink.gif



Ok mate! wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 2 2015, 09:28 PM

Will be on it tomorrow mate, sorry, just been so busy preparing stuff for work tomorrow.

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 3 2015, 06:22 PM

Ok mate! I'll prepare the next assignment for the end of this week. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 3 2015, 09:09 PM

Answers in my thread Gab unsure.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 4 2015, 01:42 PM

Checked!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 11 2015, 05:20 AM

ASSIGNMENT 10: 4 notes melody

Hey friends! This workout starts to get more musical! This time you'll have to recognize a melody by ear! If you have been following all the previous assignments you'll be able to slowly detect the 4 notes of each melody. If not, you need to dedicate more time to the previous assignments.

This assignment consists of 10 short melodies that start in C note and that use only notes from C major scale. You should be able to recognize the intervals from the major scale but I want you to share note names as answers.

Exercise:  Assignment_10.mp3 ( 1.23MB ) : 84


Who is in? smile.gif

Posted by: HiimAlex Aug 11 2015, 07:46 AM

I am Gabriel! smile.gif

Posted by: Tom51 Aug 11 2015, 03:24 PM

Sure I am in. Just posted a 1st try.

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 11 2015, 03:42 PM

Me for sure.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 11 2015, 04:25 PM

Great guys! You are welcome. smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 11 2015, 08:52 PM

My answers are in my thread mate wink.gif

This took me 10 minutes, I don't actually recognise the intervals from memory but I was getting close fairly quick. How do you think is the best way to practise with these multiple note pieces? Should we listen to the whole phrase and then try to play it from memory then see how close we are? and if incorrect, listen again, then play until it sounds right to us and then re-check with the piece? I hope this makes sense

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 12 2015, 01:44 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 11 2015, 04:52 PM) *
My answers are in my thread mate wink.gif

This took me 10 minutes, I don't actually recognise the intervals from memory but I was getting close fairly quick. How do you think is the best way to practise with these multiple note pieces? Should we listen to the whole phrase and then try to play it from memory then see how close we are? and if incorrect, listen again, then play until it sounds right to us and then re-check with the piece? I hope this makes sense



Hi mate, I've found this same question before at the mentoring thread so here is the answer: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=53694&view=findpost&p=716590.

As I commented there and also at Tom's thread. There is not a better way to do this because the idea is to be able to learn melodies by ear no matter how, but if you want to get the most of this training, try to recognize the notes without using your guitar. Use only your ear and voice to find out the intervals and note names. This is possible because I've given the first note, so the others can be recognized by compassion, as we did on the previous assignments.

Does it make sense?

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 12 2015, 02:29 PM

Thanks Gab,

I deliberately put the same question in here so that others could benefit from your answer. I think maybe I should post questions about ear training only in here in future smile.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 12 2015, 02:35 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 12 2015, 10:29 AM) *
Thanks Gab,

I deliberately put the same question in here so that others could benefit from your answer. I think maybe I should post questions about ear training only in here in future smile.gif

Cheers



yeah! that's better to let everybody learn by your questions.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 21 2015, 03:55 PM

Anybody else working on the last assignment? Are you ready for a new one?

Posted by: Tom51 Aug 21 2015, 04:14 PM

Ready wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 22 2015, 08:08 PM

QUOTE (Tom51 @ Aug 21 2015, 12:14 PM) *
Ready wink.gif



The new assignment will be published the first days of the next week. Stay tuned. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 4 2015, 11:33 PM

Waiting wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 5 2015, 12:37 AM

ASSIGNMENT 11: Triads

Hello guys! Congrats to everybody who succesfully worked on the previous assignment. We will continue working on melodies in the near future. This time, we will add a third note to the harmonic intervals so we will have what is called "triads".

We won't cover the theory behind them here, you can explore at the theory board. http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=3342

Here you can learn 1 position of each family of triads (major, minor, augmented, diminished) to get familiar with the sound:



But you'll have to identify 10 different triads with 10 different roots from this audio:  Assignment_11.mp3 ( 1.23MB ) : 83


Who is in?

Posted by: Tom51 Sep 5 2015, 01:39 PM

Great that this goes on. I am in.

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 5 2015, 06:49 PM

In

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 6 2015, 08:46 PM

WOW these are hard Will Christmas be ok for my answers Gab? rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 7 2015, 05:05 AM

hahaha take your time guys to get familiar with these ones. smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 14 2015, 08:34 PM

How is this going guys? I've noted at my personal board that many students are having problems with the last assignment....

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 14 2015, 08:35 PM

Well I've been neglecting it due to my playing issues, sorry. I think I'll have to go back a little bit to refresh my ears.

Sorry.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 15 2015, 01:34 PM

Ok! Let me know how it goes, because I'm thinking on creating some complementary exercises below this one...

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 15 2015, 02:57 PM

Yeah, I was thinking it was a big jump in difficulty. Maybe some examples with the same root but different triads to start with?

Thanks Gab. smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 16 2015, 03:23 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Sep 15 2015, 10:57 AM) *
Yeah, I was thinking it was a big jump in difficulty. Maybe some examples with the same root but different triads to start with?

Thanks Gab. smile.gif



yes, I'll prepare it. wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 24 2015, 04:20 PM

ASSIGNMENT 12: Major & Minor Triads

Ok guys! As the previous assignment has been a killer I decided to create some new assignments to help you to reach that level. On this new assignment we will work only on major and minor triads using different inversions. Remember that you can learn the theory behind this topic here: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=3342

On this assignment, I play only C major or C minor triads, in different parts of the neck and using different inversions.

Use these lessons if you want to learn the different inversions of major and minor triads:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/ionian-mode-harmonized-with-triads/
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/aeolian-mode-harmonized-with-triads/


And here is the exercise:  Assignment_12.mp3 ( 1.85MB ) : 71


I only require from you to recognize if I'm playing C major or minor triad.


Who is in?

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 24 2015, 04:34 PM

Thanks Gab

I'll be working on this in Spain as much as I can smile.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Tom51 Sep 24 2015, 04:38 PM

Thanks Gab. I am in too.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 24 2015, 04:48 PM

Great! You are welcome guys. smile.gif

Posted by: Tom51 Sep 24 2015, 06:50 PM

Just one question about inversions. Does it mean I can play a chord in any sequence as long as the three notes are in?
...like C-E-G but also G-C-E (like on 5th fret as barre) and so on? Is that still a C major or s special C major with G as base?
Thanks Tom



Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 26 2015, 04:02 PM

QUOTE (Tom51 @ Sep 24 2015, 02:50 PM) *
Just one question about inversions. Does it mean I can play a chord in any sequence as long as the three notes are in?
...like C-E-G but also G-C-E (like on 5th fret as barre) and so on? Is that still a C major or s special C major with G as base?
Thanks Tom



Hi Tom, when talking about triads the term used is inversion. If you use the root in the bass, it's the fundamental position, when using the third in the bass you are playing 1st inversion, and if you play it with 5th in the bass it's the second inversion. But we are always talking about C major triad.



If you want to learn these inversions everywhere in the neck, you can use the lessons that I suggested in the assignment.






Posted by: Phil66 Oct 5 2015, 08:41 PM

Answers to assignment 12 in my thread Gab.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 6 2015, 02:22 PM

Great Phil, I've just commented your post. wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 7 2015, 12:51 PM

New answers in my thread Gab unsure.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 7 2015, 01:40 PM

Checked!

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 7 2015, 08:35 PM

Another attempt posted. Some of them sound different every time I listen laugh.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 8 2015, 04:04 PM

Checked!

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 13 2015, 08:03 PM

Anyone else struggling with this exercise?

Take a look at this training site >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.teoria.com/en/exercises/c3i.php<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Hope it helps you wink.gif

Phil

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 14 2015, 02:38 PM

Great stuff Phil! Thanks for sharing! smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 17 2015, 04:59 PM

ASSIGNMENT 13: 4 notes melody (II)

Hey friends! On this assignment we get back to melodic intervals to continue exploring the 4 notes melodies.

If you have been following all the previous assignments you'll be able to slowly detect the 4 notes of each melody. If not, you need to dedicate more time to the previous assignments.

This assignment consists of 10 short melodies that start in C note and that use only notes from C major scale. You should be able to recognize the intervals from the major scale but I want you to share note names as answers.

Exercise:  assignment_13.mp3 ( 1.85MB ) : 62



Who is in?

Posted by: Tom51 Oct 17 2015, 07:02 PM

That's great to have new stuff here. Of course I will be in.
Tom

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 17 2015, 10:16 PM

In smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 18 2015, 11:17 PM

You are welcome friends. wink.gif

Posted by: petr Oct 20 2015, 11:58 PM

Hi Gab,
this melodic tasks are not that difficult for me, but Im really struggling with the harmonic ones.
Here I could do many just by singing. My results attached. I checked against Toms results http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=53502&st=160&start=160
but i think the no.8 should be as I have it there

 13.txt ( 81bytes ) : 73


Petr

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 21 2015, 09:09 AM

Yeah, the harmonic ones are a killer. Did you look at the link I put above Petr?

Posted by: petr Oct 21 2015, 10:58 AM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 21 2015, 08:09 AM) *
Yeah, the harmonic ones are a killer. Did you look at the link I put above Petr?


Hi Phil,
yes i have checked the link, it is very good, thanks for sharing!
Petr

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 21 2015, 02:26 PM

QUOTE (petr @ Oct 20 2015, 07:58 PM) *
Hi Gab,
this melodic tasks are not that difficult for me, but Im really struggling with the harmonic ones.
Here I could do many just by singing. My results attached. I checked against Toms results http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=53502&st=160&start=160
but i think the no.8 should be as I have it there

 13.txt ( 81bytes ) : 73


Petr



Hi Petr! Good job with the assignments! You're right! The number 8 is right on your txt, I missed Tom's wrong note.

I'll share more harmonic assignments. wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 3 2015, 04:59 PM

Anybody else working on the last assignment? Are you ready for a new one?

Posted by: Tom51 Nov 3 2015, 06:54 PM

Yes, ready wink.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Nov 3 2015, 08:50 PM

Check PM Gab smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 9 2015, 02:20 PM

ASSIGNMENT 14: Major & Minor Triads

Hey guys! This time, based on the idea of Phil66 and with his help on recording the audio samples and exercises we will get back to harmonic triads but with a different approach (Phil's idea). The examples and exercises will be played in three stages:

1. Root
2. Root + Third
3. Root + Third + Fifth.

Check this two examples:



A major:  01._A_Major.wav ( 3.88MB ) : 64


A minor:  02._A_Minor.wav ( 4.93MB ) : 77



And now the exercises. You have to recognize each of them and say if it's major or minor by ear. Then you can use your guitar to find the root of each exercise.

 Exercises.zip ( 19.86MB ) : 65



Who is in?

Posted by: Phil66 Nov 9 2015, 02:36 PM

I'm in and I won't cheat and my memory is not good enough to remember what I recorded smile.gif

Here is a single download of all examples if you prefer it that way smile.gif

 Assignment_14_triads.mp3 ( 7.56MB ) : 56



Posted by: Tom51 Nov 9 2015, 05:33 PM

IN ohmy.gif

btw.: would be my pleasure to do some of the preparation work for a next assignment too.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 10 2015, 04:21 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Nov 9 2015, 10:36 AM) *
I'm in and I won't cheat and my memory is not good enough to remember what I recorded smile.gif

Here is a single download of all examples if you prefer it that way smile.gif

[attachment=43429:Assignme...4_triads.wav]


Awesome! Thanks!

For future works, remember that mp3 320kits would be ok for this and files will be smaller. wink.gif


QUOTE (Tom51 @ Nov 9 2015, 01:33 PM) *
IN ohmy.gif

btw.: would be my pleasure to do some of the preparation work for a next assignment too.



That would be great!

Posted by: Phil66 Nov 10 2015, 08:40 PM

Changed to MP3 Gab wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 11 2015, 01:43 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Nov 10 2015, 04:40 PM) *
Changed to MP3 Gab wink.gif



Thanks!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 18 2015, 01:58 PM

Hey everybody, I'm wondering if we have some beginner / new users on working more on the first steps of Ear Training. Please post here or send me a PM! smile.gif

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