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Jesse View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 05:45 PM
Sep 10 2008, 05:45 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.348 Joined: 5-July 08 From: Enschede/overijssel/Nederland	I wanna try this song! Do you prefer it alll downpicked? What would be a good tone? I got bass/treble/gain/mid/mid contour You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Don't just play it. Feel it!

Jose Mena View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 05:54 PM
Sep 10 2008, 05:54 PM	Instructor Posts: 1.359 Joined: 28-July 08 From: Miami FL	All down strokes, that is the right way, but this gets tiring, you will need to develop stamina, I saw John Petrucci Playing once and he was cheating using alternate. Look at some old Metallica Videos Hetfield is doing downstrokes, the original tempo of the song is 220 bpm and he plays 8th notes all with downstrokes. As far as the right setting, every amp is different and has a different sound, On mine I set the treble and prescence a little higher than usual to get that razor cutting sound, My practice amp for some reason has a lot of bass frequencies so I leave it at around 3, and still has a lot of low end, I bring the Mid down a lot to get rid of the Nasal sounding. So that is what works for me, Enough bass to make it sound powerful, Boost Treble and Prescence, cut some mids. Oh by the way, I set the gain to 10!! or its highest value on the amp for this one You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Video Lessons Visit my Instructor Board Visit MySpace

ZakkWylde View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 05:56 PM
Sep 10 2008, 05:56 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany	ALL DOWNSTROKE, otherwise this song makes no sense (yes Mr Petrucci!). Tone would be bass and treble at 2 oclock and mid at 10 o clock, gain as high as needed to sound like metal and contour half way up. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

Jesse View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 06:02 PM
Sep 10 2008, 06:02 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.348 Joined: 5-July 08 From: Enschede/overijssel/Nederland	contour is just on/off You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Don't just play it. Feel it!

Nazgul View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 06:07 PM
Sep 10 2008, 06:07 PM	GMC:er Posts: 977 Joined: 10-April 08 From: Germany	I'm trying to learn the song with downpicking, but I just can't get past 200 BPM. Does it take so much time to get downpicking up to speed, like alternate picking? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Chuck Norris rules!

Jesse View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 06:08 PM
Sep 10 2008, 06:08 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.348 Joined: 5-July 08 From: Enschede/overijssel/Nederland	I think even more, more stamina is needed. This riff IS KILLING MY THUMB You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Don't just play it. Feel it!

Mark. View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 06:09 PM
Sep 10 2008, 06:09 PM	GMC:er Posts: 847 Joined: 8-January 08	Im also learning this song atm, going to jam with a couple of friends soon and their all metallica fans so I needed to learn some of their songs. I play it with alternate picking but I admit that it would sound more metal with pure down strokes, but it makes my picking hand way too tired And Mr Petrucci is probably going to kill me if I play it with downstrokes only, please dont hurt me Mr. Petrucci You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Mark.: Sep 10 2008, 06:10 PM

Jose Mena View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 06:28 PM
Sep 10 2008, 06:28 PM	Instructor Posts: 1.359 Joined: 28-July 08 From: Miami FL	haha! I am sure Petrucci could play it all down strokes if he wanted to, but it is intense, I guess he wants to be able to play for the rest of the show, and needs his right arm for his crazy alternate leads. It is about stamina, I used to play this song in rehearsals with my old band because we loved it. I haven't played in a while so I would probably get tired before getting into the 1st verse. Back when I played I would get tired after the first chorus I would start feeling the pain, but I kept going like there was no tomorrow, I would occasionally cheat with a few alternates, but for a very short time, and I wouldn't let anyone see it. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Video Lessons Visit my Instructor Board Visit MySpace

Danilo Capezzuto View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 07:10 PM
Sep 10 2008, 07:10 PM	Instructor Posts: 1.829 Joined: 16-February 08 From: Italy	I totally agree with Jose! If I can add a little thing...try to use a dunlop 0.88 mm...is the one James use! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my video lessons!

Matt23 View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 07:52 PM
Sep 10 2008, 07:52 PM	Accomplished Tone Master Posts: 1.745 Joined: 17-January 08 From: Scotland	I think James uses alternate live but on the album he downpicked it. Also for the sound just low on the mids and high on the bass and treble. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

jer View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 08:10 PM
Sep 10 2008, 08:10 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	QUOTE (Matt23 @ Sep 10 2008, 01:52 PM) I think James uses alternate live but on the album he downpicked it. Also for the sound just low on the mids and high on the bass and treble. I doubt Mr Hetfield could play this with all downstrokes these days. He's not what he used to be. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

Jose Mena View Member Profile	Sep 10 2008, 09:05 PM
Sep 10 2008, 09:05 PM	Instructor Posts: 1.359 Joined: 28-July 08 From: Miami FL	Check it out, back in 1989, these were my favorite Metallica days, I was a kid and thought they were gods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEL6_SuQCu8 I see all downstrokes You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Video Lessons Visit my Instructor Board Visit MySpace

Jesse View Member Profile	Sep 11 2008, 06:24 AM
Sep 11 2008, 06:24 AM	GMC:er Posts: 2.348 Joined: 5-July 08 From: Enschede/overijssel/Nederland	0.88?!? That's horrible I use 2 mm and sometimes 3mm You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Don't just play it. Feel it!

swingline View Member Profile	Sep 11 2008, 06:43 AM
Sep 11 2008, 06:43 AM	GMC:er Posts: 789 Joined: 2-August 07 From: Hemet, California	I cheat and use alternate, with a little work it can become almost indistinguishable. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- -------------------- The Gear: Jackson Dinky 2M Snow White Line 6 Spider III 75 watt Line 6 FBV Express Foot Controller

Trond Vold View Member Profile	Sep 11 2008, 06:02 PM
Sep 11 2008, 06:02 PM	Instructor Posts: 3.497 Joined: 16-February 08 From: Norge!	That song should be called Master of Downstrokes. It's hard and requires alot of practice, but downstrokes is a must. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Schecter Stiletto Classic, Jackson SLSMG, Ibanez RG-380 Japan, Gibson Les Paul Studio Amp: Marshall JMP-1 -> Rocktron Velocity 100 -> Marshall JCM-900 Lead 4x12 FX and stomps: T.C Electronics G-Sharp, Korg SDD-1200, Emma Transmorgrifier, BYOC Tribooster, GGG Green Ringer, Dinosaur Overdrive, Voodoo Lab SuperFuzz, Sovtek Bassballs, Line6 Tap Tremolo, EHX Screaming Bird. ___________________________________________________ My Lessons! My Instructor Board! My Myspace!

Compound9 View Member Profile	Sep 16 2008, 11:06 AM
Sep 16 2008, 11:06 AM	GMC:er Posts: 23 Joined: 29-April 08	if you learn to play all downstroke it should increase your alternative picking speed to. If you wanna learn it all down strokes, put the song on and just hammer it out all downstroke. If you miss notes it doesnt matter, you probably will only hit about 10% of all notes first time through (depending on how experienced you are). Firstly try and learn the phrases, then try linking phrases. each time you play you should be able to hit a few more notes then previous. To master it though, once you've got a grip of song, play with a click, but set the click at like 230Bpm, play through the song, then try at 220Bpm etc. by the time you get to 208BPm (i think master of puppets is 208), it should feel confortable-ish. It'll take a long time to get it right. Ive been playing it for about 4 years now on and off, and i can do all downstroke except for the phrase after the mad solo, cos he throws in some trills too. but a bit of practice and i'll nail. Oh, and never think "its too fast for me". if you think that way you'll never do it. you need to break your boundaries. Good luck You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

superize View Member Profile	Sep 16 2008, 11:11 AM
Sep 16 2008, 11:11 AM	Ultimate Tone Guru Posts: 4.348 Joined: 26-July 07 From: Glommersträsk. Sweden	I am trying to play this song and can play it pretty well at 150 bpm with downstroke only bt it i so damn har to play You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG Jackson js30 warrior jackson rr24 Line 6 Spider III amp Line 6 pod xt live Washburn acoustic Youtube Account My bands Myspace

Jesse View Member Profile	Sep 16 2008, 01:47 PM
Sep 16 2008, 01:47 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.348 Joined: 5-July 08 From: Enschede/overijssel/Nederland	QUOTE (Jose Mena @ Sep 10 2008, 10:05 PM) Check it out, back in 1989, these were my favorite Metallica days, I was a kid and thought they were gods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEL6_SuQCu8 I see all downstrokes yep that was their best year I think. They RULED!!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Don't just play it. Feel it!

superize View Member Profile	Sep 16 2008, 01:51 PM
Sep 16 2008, 01:51 PM	Ultimate Tone Guru Posts: 4.348 Joined: 26-July 07 From: Glommersträsk. Sweden	QUOTE (Jose Mena @ Sep 10 2008, 10:05 PM) Check it out, back in 1989, these were my favorite Metallica days, I was a kid and thought they were gods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEL6_SuQCu8 I see all downstrokes Awsome video......I just love this song You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG Jackson js30 warrior jackson rr24 Line 6 Spider III amp Line 6 pod xt live Washburn acoustic Youtube Account My bands Myspace

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