Printable Version of Topic

Click here to view this topic in its original format

GMC Forum _ Gabriel Leopardi _ Mr Rotton Treat's Thread

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 14 2013, 03:24 PM

Hi mr rotton treat!! Welcome to your Gab's Army thread!!

Could you please tell me a bit about you, your musical tastes, influences, strengths and weaknesses? I would need some videos of you playing rhythm and solo guitar, so please post your best material here. If you have some music or ideas of your own, also post them here. Also let me know how you think that I can help you and what are your expectations for our job. You can check the other Army's thread to discover the different modalities of this project.


The principles of our Army are:

+ Improve your technique
+ Make music and solos
+ Have fun
+ Destroy the enemy (hahaha not really just kidding... )

Posted by: mr rotton treat Feb 14 2013, 08:15 PM

I'm been playing guitar for 15 years. My first influences were Nirvana, Pantera and Rage against the machine.

I love playing Metal and hard rock. Love bands like Machinehead, Periphery but also classic rock and old school thrash like Megadeth.

The last 5 years or so i've been really trying to focus on my abilities, from being a song writer and guitar player in bands to just jamming with friends or writing and recording at home.

I feel i'm a solid rhythm player and riffer, but struggle with lead playing and song structure.

My technique far surpasses my head knowledge of music theory.

I don't have a camcorder yet but i'll look into getting one.

I've attached a song that i'm working on right now for my band. It will give you the jest of what i'm going for.

I'm generally looking to improve my lead playing and music theory for writing songs. But generally i love every aspect of playing so i want to know it all.... hahaha.

 Song_3.mp3 ( 6.74MB ) : 83
 

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 15 2013, 12:23 AM

Hi mate! Thanks for your info! Let me say that your song in progress sounds really good! It sounds modern, extreme, groovy and technical. I like the style! There are a lot of sections and atmospheres there! What do you think that your songs are lacking?

Posted by: mr rotton treat Feb 15 2013, 12:56 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 14 2013, 02:23 PM) *
Hi mate! Thanks for your info! Let me say that your song in progress sounds really good! It sounds modern, extreme, groovy and technical. I like the style! There are a lot of sections and atmospheres there! What do you think that your songs are lacking?



I haven't sucessful solo's in my music that i'd be proud to record so i'd like to do that. Kind of stuck in a box with my improv soloing.

Other things i like to work on is song structure.

Instead of writing riff to riff and just connecting them with something cool, make connections that make since using keys.

Like using the circle of fifth's for writing.

Also trying to learn how to program midi drums better... big learning curve.

I'll post a link to my soundcloud later tonight so you can check out some more of my music.

Thanks for the positive feedback!

Posted by: mr rotton treat Feb 15 2013, 05:49 AM

I see some people post a piece of music from Soundcloud on a thread.

How do i do that?

Posted by: mr rotton treat Feb 15 2013, 07:19 AM

http://soundcloud.com/mr-rottontreat/1-27-2013

<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="http://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F76649560&show_artwork=true"></iframe>

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 15 2013, 02:46 PM

Hi mate, there is an option here called "Insert Special Item", you open it and you will find the option Insert: Soundcloud, and you copy the link to your soundcloud in that box.

QUOTE (mr rotton treat @ Feb 14 2013, 08:56 PM) *
I haven't sucessful solo's in my music that i'd be proud to record so i'd like to do that. Kind of stuck in a box with my improv soloing.

Other things i like to work on is song structure.

Instead of writing riff to riff and just connecting them with something cool, make connections that make since using keys.

Like using the circle of fifth's for writing.

Also trying to learn how to program midi drums better... big learning curve.

I'll post a link to my soundcloud later tonight so you can check out some more of my music.

Thanks for the positive feedback!



yes, I understand these two things. These are the things that we should work:

1. Song Analysis: We would analyze the structure, harmony, theory, scales, arrangements of many songs to incorporate concepts from the music that you like.

2. Improvisation: Learn Pentatonic Scales, Major & Minor Scales, Practice melodic patterns, learn triads, arpeggios, modes, transcibe solos, learn licks from your favourite guitarists, improvise over backing tracks.


Posted by: mr rotton treat Feb 15 2013, 08:20 PM

2. Improvisation: Learn Pentatonic Scales, Major & Minor Scales, Practice melodic patterns, learn triads, arpeggios, modes, transcibe solos, learn licks from your favourite guitarists, improvise over backing tracks.
[/quote]

Sounds good Gabriel, i will get started on some of this now.

I'm familiar with the Penatonic boxes but never completely learned them all.

I will start that now. Is their a particular lesson from GMC you would recommend for penatonic scales and shapes?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 15 2013, 09:43 PM

QUOTE (mr rotton treat @ Feb 15 2013, 04:20 PM) *
2. Improvisation: Learn Pentatonic Scales, Major & Minor Scales, Practice melodic patterns, learn triads, arpeggios, modes, transcibe solos, learn licks from your favourite guitarists, improvise over backing tracks.


Sounds good Gabriel, i will get started on some of this now.

I'm familiar with the Penatonic boxes but never completely learned them all.

I will start that now. Is their a particular lesson from GMC you would recommend for penatonic scales and shapes?


yes! this series:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/pentatonic-workshop-level1-caged-format-timing-exercises/


Posted by: mr rotton treat Feb 16 2013, 04:36 PM

I pickup a WebCam last night.

Here's my first attempt using it.

This is one of my songs.

http://youtu.be/0U144cWYv0s

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 17 2013, 08:09 PM

QUOTE (mr rotton treat @ Feb 16 2013, 12:36 PM) *
I pickup a WebCam last night.

Here's my first attempt using it.

This is one of my songs.

http://youtu.be/0U144cWYv0s


Killer riffing mate! I really enjoyed your video! Both video and audio are excellent! We will be able to work perfectly with this quality.
I think that if you work a bit on your composition structure and add some more melody that would make it catchier you will get a very interesting song. What's your plan on this song? Instrumental or with vocals?

Posted by: mr rotton treat Feb 17 2013, 08:24 PM

This song was written with the intention of having vocals. Over the last year I've been riffing and recording but not composing full songs. I started trying to piece together full songs about 3 months ago and have 3 full one's recorded.

I feel the same as you about the composition structure. I wanna write metal songs that are based around traditional structures with lots of hooks. And lots of clean vocals that are well understood besides just screaming the entire time.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 18 2013, 03:46 PM

QUOTE (mr rotton treat @ Feb 17 2013, 04:24 PM) *
This song was written with the intention of having vocals. Over the last year I've been riffing and recording but not composing full songs. I started trying to piece together full songs about 3 months ago and have 3 full one's recorded.

I feel the same as you about the composition structure. I wanna write metal songs that are based around traditional structures with lots of hooks. And lots of clean vocals that are well understood besides just screaming the entire time.



yes, so let's start analyzing some songs. Please post here 5 of your favourite songs.

Posted by: mr rotton treat Feb 19 2013, 04:49 AM

I'm trying to post youtube vids of my songs using the quick access bar but i'm not getting anything. Any Suggestions?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 19 2013, 02:26 PM

QUOTE (mr rotton treat @ Feb 19 2013, 12:49 AM) *
I'm trying to post youtube vids of my songs using the quick access bar but i'm not getting anything. Any Suggestions?


Go to the "share" option below your yourtube video and click there, then click on embed and copy that code here. It should work in this way.

Posted by: mr rotton treat Feb 20 2013, 06:04 AM

1. Machine Head - "Descend The Shades Of Night"

http://youtu.be/hg55Gug1k7o

2. Coheed and Cambria - Mother Superior

http://youtu.be/GZaEcRWD4nU

3. Pantera - Floods

http://youtu.be/td-v6vG2Xhs

4. Dream Theater - Endless Sacrifice

http://youtu.be/STXFFYcuhuw

5. Periphery - Icarus Lives!

http://youtu.be/MfOnq-zXXBw

These are some goodies!!


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 20 2013, 06:58 PM

That a really cool list!! Great choices! Ok, please start with one of these songs and use this template to analyse it.

Name of the song:
Name of the band:

Structure // What is happening? // Chords & Scales

Structure: You will divide the tune in Intro - Riff - Verse - Pre chorus- - Chorus - Solo - Part C and so... You can add the letters A, B, C to the sections when you find different ones in the same tune (Ex: Verse A, Verse B, Chorus, Solo A, Solo)

what is happening?: Here you will describe each part. You can explain how is the part, if it has vocals, screams, melodies, harmonizations, how much is last, how many measures, etc. Every information that could be useful to understand the part.

Chords & Scales: Here you will post the tonality, the chord progression and the scales used for the melodies and solos.

Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com)
© Invision Power Services (http://www.invisionpower.com)