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GMC Forum _ CHILL OUT _ Kemper Rack Mount! With 600 Watts
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 18 2013, 01:25 AM
Gear lust is overtaking my brain!!! I still want an AXE FX but but now I want one of the new KEMPER PROFILING AMPS as well 
They FINALLY put it in a rack mount format and added the option of a 600 watt Class D amplifier built in Pretty darn spiff. But it ain't cheap. With the amp, it's U.S. $2,700.
It does look much better imho, and is sized to travel better Here is a pic and link.
*Anybody planning on getting one of these?
http://www.skatingdog.com/?p=392
Posted by: ItSME3 Jan 18 2013, 01:41 PM
I would in a heartbeat if I had the money
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 18 2013, 03:03 PM
Spiff piece eh? Would be nice to have a rack with one of those and an AXE FX. Complete overkill but what a rack
Todd
Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Jan 18 2013, 06:18 PM
Can you record directly out of these, without connecting them to a cab?
Looks to me like the ultimate guitars recording machine for home/project studios!
Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Jan 19 2013, 01:16 AM
That's dream machine really, I would love to own it 
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 19 2013, 03:27 AM
I would love of have one of these... but the price is so high! Maybe in the future...
Posted by: osiris Jan 19 2013, 10:52 PM
Intense GAS!
Not within budget right now though ;-)
Posted by: TeoWulf Jan 20 2013, 12:25 AM
I'd rather buy an Engl Special Edition for this price.
Posted by: SpaseMoonkey Jan 20 2013, 01:54 PM
Looks to me like the ultimate guitars recording machine for home/project studios!
I'm not sure how the one with the power amp works, but yes you can run an XLR to an interface and use it.
Edit:
I've reag on the community page, they also have bass rig patches that sound amazing as well.
Posted by: osiris Jan 20 2013, 10:08 PM
Looks to me like the ultimate guitars recording machine for home/project studios!
Yes, the Kemper profiles the cab as well so you record it with nothing else applied. It stores cab profile separately from amp profile so you can mix an amp from one profile with the cab from another.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 21 2013, 09:33 AM
It scares me only when I'm thinking about the huge number of parameters... and all those buttons (...runs away leaving a trail of dust..) 
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 21 2013, 09:44 PM
The whole point of the Kemper is that you could have the engl and every
Other amp you can think of in one handy box. But there's a sort of an old school thang wanting the big iron which I get
Posted by: PosterBoy Jan 22 2013, 11:30 AM
I'd love a Kemper as well as the Axe you could do amazing things with both together.
I still long for an amp and pedalboard set up (even though I just sold all mine) but I just don't play in a situation that makes it the easy option ever
Posted by: TeoWulf Jan 23 2013, 12:12 AM
Other amp you can think of
in one handy box. But there's a sort of an old school thang wanting the big iron which I get I just checked some more videos about this amp, and it is definetly not as accurate as they advertise it.
The Engl Special Edition is like the most versatile tube amp on the market, it has so many sounds that I wouldn't really need any other amp.
Posted by: SpaseMoonkey Jan 23 2013, 01:46 AM
The Engl Special Edition is like the most versatile tube amp on the market, it has so many sounds that I wouldn't really need any other amp.
I love my Kemper, wouldn't trade for other gear. But then again, I love that I can use headphone for practicing since. I sold my Mesa Triple Rectifier because I couldn't crank it to get the rectifier sound from it. Yeah it sounded great but sucks at bedroom playing.
Posted by: TeoWulf Jan 23 2013, 08:56 PM
Dont get me wrong, I don't actully own this engl, my neighbours would kill me if I would
I was looking at the engl modern rock preamp, 'cause it has a 1,5W power amp for practicing and some great tones with a reasonable price.(around 550$)
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 24 2013, 01:01 AM
TEOWULF, I"m not sure what vids you were watching, but as many KEMPER owners will tell you, up close and personal, the KEMPER can pretty much sound like any amp in the world which is the reason it is gaining so much momentum among pro players. But hey man, to each his own, if you are one of those guys who would rather have the big iron, go for it
The Engl Special Edition is like the most versatile tube amp on the market, it has so many sounds that I wouldn't really need any other amp.
Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Jan 24 2013, 01:04 AM
Since this is a profiling amp and there is a way to "copy" any amp you have, I was wondering - how do the presets sound?
I suppose they already copied all the famous amps in their factory lab?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 24 2013, 09:43 AM
Good question Bogdan - are there any Kemper users here that are willing to post some samples?
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 24 2013, 10:24 AM
Here is OLA ENGLUND in the studio Profiling a MESA TRIPLE RECT. Towards the end they do an A/B and it's spot on. You can profile any amp, but you don't need to as they have mostly all been profiled and you just download the patch from the PROFILE EXCHANGE on the Kemper site
Here is a vid of some guys profiling a Bogner.
Pro's all over the world have been flocking to this device. All of the live shows I attended last year seemed to have at least one kemper in the fx rack. The marshall stacks would be pointed at the audience, but looking behind them THEY WEREN"T EVER CONNECTED TO CABINETS! And I saw one or more Kempers right next to the monitor mix position every time. I see a lot of bands at a place called the Masquerade as that's where heavy bands play. And I kept seeing various Kemper setups.
Todd
Posted by: osiris Jan 24 2013, 10:35 AM
Here is a vid of some guys profiling a Bogner.
Pro's all over the world have been flocking to this device. All of the live shows I attended last year seemed to have at least one kemper in the fx rack. The marshall stacks would be pointed at the audience, but looking behind them THEY WEREN"T EVER CONNECTED TO CABINETS! And I saw one or more Kempers right next to the monitor mix position every time. I see a lot of bands at a place called the Masquerade as that's where heavy bands play. And I kept seeing various Kemper setups.
Todd
Posted by: TeoWulf Jan 24 2013, 09:12 PM
Here is a vid of some guys profiling a Bogner.
The kemper always sounds a little bassier and has a bit less warmth. Btw i don't understand the need for a lot of amp models, since most pros have their trademark sounds and use those always.
Posted by: Opetholic Jan 24 2013, 09:32 PM
Completely agree with this statement! I don't even change the settings on my amp, why would I have another amp ? If you look at the big names in music, they all have a trademark sound which they keep for their entire career, that's why when you listen to their music, you can immediately tell it is them..
Posted by: ItSME3 Jan 24 2013, 10:03 PM
for some "great" and "distinct sound" guys, the idea is to be able to take "their" sound on the road in just one small box. Also its a great studio tool. Guys like Lukather or Morse use it. So there you got your "great" guys using that machine. BTW switching directly on the Kemper between Ref. Amp and Kemper is not really the best idea for A/B comparison. This is no guitaramp in the room sound. I got a friend who has a Kemper and AxeFx (see some other thread). If you profile your amp you best use an isocab and not a microphone in front of your real cab. The profile quality depends a lot on the way you place your mic etc.
If you make a make a profile and then play your original amp and compare this to a kemper through a good power amp with the same cab, you will be really astonished about the quality of the profile.
Try it out yourself if you find the thing in a store. It is really a great machine. BTW I have seen it a couple of times now on stage !
Posted by: Opetholic Jan 24 2013, 10:27 PM
So then for those of us who are not traveling on tour or who are not in studio it is not so useful..
Posted by: SpaseMoonkey Jan 24 2013, 10:29 PM
I post you samples every time I give you my new practice take!
Edit:
http://soundcloud.com/spasemoonkey/mix-testing-solos
First 20 seconds is music. I was testing to see if I could capture computer footage as I played for the rest.
Posted by: ConnorGilks Jan 25 2013, 05:49 AM
I find it hilarious that it is the EXACT price of the AxeFX II.
Although in theory I still find my AxeFX II way more appealing, I do want to try out the Kemper sometime. Seems like a great piece of gear!
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 25 2013, 07:37 AM
TEOWULF: Like any piece of gear, it's NOT EVERYONE"S CUP OF TEA, but that's the beauty of it Some folks don't like amp modeling in general, some folks don't like amps, it's a big world and there's enough space for everyone to have their own cup.
CONNOR: That's because, to some degree, these products serve somewhat similar segments of the market even though they are VASTLY DIFFERENT products. Now that the AXE FX supports it's own quasi kemper functionality, with Tone Printing, the fight is getting serious. Ideally, you could use both. Profile your fav amp/cab and not have to tote it around or catch it on a bad valve day, and still have the axe fx for nearly unlimited fx fun.
But that's 4 grand worth of gear. I doubt Ill be putting that much down, But a guy can dream!!
Todd
Although in theory I still find my AxeFX II way more appealing, I do want to try out the Kemper sometime. Seems like a great piece of gear!
Well, it's still usefull for dialing up any tone you can think of no matter where you are playing, home, studio, the road, etc. and you can have it via headphones, usb, etc. without having create a noise violation.
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