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Chris S.
Feb 22 2018, 11:24 PM
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For me - the drums need work, I mostly just have random patterns in there to keep the time.

I'm not sure how I feel about the transition from the clean guitar verses to the pre-chorus at 31 seconds. I originally had some synths there as well but it sounded weird only have them on that one pre-chorus as there are no synths anywhere else in the song.

Other than that it's basically the bridge at 2:19. I definitely like the faster palm muting of the rhythm guitars, but I feel like the lead guitars clash with the vocal melody wise.

That's everything that jumps out at me so far.

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Hi Chris,

The tansitiion from verse to pre-chorus is a bit agressive, it's not sounding bad, but maybe trying to make a part that sounds "smaller" will make the chorus explore more, if I understand well the structure, the chorus starts at 00:42, is it right?

What using some electronic drums for the pre-chorus?

This is not the style of your song, but I like how real drums and electronic synths and drum loops are combined to create contrast between the different parts in bands like this:



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Thanks for that video Gab it gave me a little bit of an idea - this isn't final but what do you think of the new Pre-Chorus direction?

https://soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/perfect-pc

I also added a small solo at the bridge, but I don't know if it sounds forced or if it fits with the rest of the structure unsure.gif

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Nice! That's what I was talking about!! This is very promising. Keep on experimenting, and listening to productions like the one I've shared. smile.gif

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I will keep developing it!

I also did a new cover to hopefull impress a girl - I think it worked wink.gif

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Killer sound!! I have to listen more to this band. I like it!! Great job.

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They're a great band - they're from my city and the lead singer graduated from the same highschool as me biggrin.gif

This is their latest single:



As for the Silverstein lesson this is where I am at:

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Nice! Thanks for the link!

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Hey Gab!

So where I am at so far is I scrapped the pre-chorus, I didn't have lyrics written for it and I feel like trying to force a Pre-Chorus is going to end up hurting it in the long run. I did keep the electronic drums in the chorus, and added a synth that pan sweeos left and right.

To give you an idea of the vocals here are the lyrics that follow the vocal melody:

Trapped between the tv screens
The billboards calling out to me
Here's what to say, what to do
I should try to be just like you

A photoshop model in magazines
Convincing me that I need to be
So perfect, so perfect
I need to be so perfect

I can't believe
That you believe
The lies they sell to
Our insecurities

Do you believe?
I won't believe
The lies they sell to
Our insecurities

(the chorus lyrics aren't final but that's what I have so far)

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Hi Chris! Good move! I think that it's more natural now without the pre-chorus.

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