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Take 3: Progressive Punk Rock, Lesson By Guido Bungenstock
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sereno71
Jun 5 2016, 11:45 PM
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Original lesson: Progressive Punk Rock by Guido Bungenstock

hi there, i've work a lot during the weekend and i hope you'll find some improvement! Otherwise i promise as you suggested to take back to easier lesson. I tried to work on smaller block but i still know i need to refine some detalis looking for feedback thanks again! btw i take a pause and play other songs and now now i find these incredibly easy!



Links to previous attempts at this lesson:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=56989
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=57031

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Ben Higgins
Jun 7 2016, 10:29 AM
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Hi man. Good choice on the tone preset. It's a lot cleaner and responds well to your picking dynamics. Not only that, but individual notes in the chords are more audible.

I think your picking hand is definitely more advanced than your fretting hand at the moment. If you watch your fretting hand, there is very little hand span. In other words, the only way you're able to reach certain frets is by moving your whole hand instead of the fingers stretching to reach them. This interferes with the timing because it's a less efficient way of reaching the notes.

You need to widen the reach of your fingers. A good way of doing this is working on 3 note per string shapes but only allowing the fingers do do the work, not the whole hand.

My hammer-on lesson will use those shapes and give your hands a good workout.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Vai-able-Hammer-ons/

This one is more difficult but you could still learn and practise it at a lower tempo. If you do, then make sure you're also using good hand synchronisation. Don't allow bad coordination to go uncorrected otherwise it will become a habit.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...inger-work-out/

Your strumming motions are too small at 0:43. You need to hit the whole chords but you're anchoring your little finger on the guitar and trying to to use a small picking motion.

Same problem at 0:51. This should be played as a chord. So strum it as a chord. At the moment you're trying to use a really small motion and pushing with your thumb only. This will only lead to an overused thumb joint rather than developing an efficient picking technique. If you watch Guido in the original, you'll see he still moves his whole hand when he needs to.

0:31 - 0:39 is really good. You're using your whole hand to stay with the rhythm and using a bigger motion to capture all of the notes of the chords. This is how you need to be for larger pick motions when playing chords.

I hope all that info helps!

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Gabriel Leopardi
Jun 7 2016, 04:18 PM
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Hi sereno,

I can notice improvements on this one compared with the previous take, however as Ben commented with precision, this take shows different elements that need to be worked. This elements are:

- timing
- Sync between both hands
- alternate picking technique
- left hand speed and smoothness

The best would be to add some complementary lessons and exercises that help you to become better on each of those aspects. This combined with some work on the most tricky areas of this lesson, as isolated exercises should be the way to go.

If you need exercises or lesson suggestions, feel free to send me a personal message and I'll help you to design a plan.

Keep on the hard work!

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Darius Wave
Jun 11 2016, 11:26 AM
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Hey there!

I agree on Ben's tone opinion - nice match, that boosts clarity of whole take. You made it again - difference bwteen the takes is almost like two different players playing it!

As Ben mentioned - your left hand fingers need some stretching exercises. I won't get into details, because Ben described this issue perfectly smile.gif

Most ear capturing isses are the timing and left-right hand sync.

At spots like 0:51 (downstrokes muting part) I would suggest to experiment on hand position and wrist andle. For those types of palm muting riffs, players usually rotate the wrist in the oposite way, than you do. Also most of us involve a lot more of wrist into this muting. In your take it looks like too much of fingers (right hand) motion determines the strokes, rather than the wrist. With one direction palm muting picking it's usually the power of wrist that makes us able to play hard and fast, with consistent tone (that's basically the number 1 reason of using one direction picking).

I would suggest to spend some time with mirror or cam and some palm muting lessons to see how players shape their right hand while doing it. You can check out some of my metal lessons and review each part for right hand zoom. I'm a kind of "like the others" at the way I execute my palm muting. That would be next step to do if I were in your shoes smile.gif

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Fran
Jun 13 2016, 09:31 AM
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Almost there, 5.3

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