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Raking -- Mute With Palm Or With Finger?
uncguy4321
Jul 10 2013, 10:34 AM
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Hi guys,

Just curious -- i am trying to master this, as I think it's an awesome sound with a solo...are you guys raking (purely percussive, no note) by palming all but the noted string? Or, are you using, say, your index finger to mute all but the played string and then maybe using your middle finger to hold down the played string?

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Darius Wave
Jul 10 2013, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (uncguy4321 @ Jul 10 2013, 09:34 AM) *
Hi guys,

Just curious -- i am trying to master this, as I think it's an awesome sound with a solo...are you guys raking (purely percussive, no note) by palming all but the noted string? Or, are you using, say, your index finger to mute all but the played string and then maybe using your middle finger to hold down the played string?



I think it's a matter of situation - things we play. We can use both if it's comfortable at the moment. Can You post any video of particular situation You mean?

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uncguy4321
Jul 10 2013, 10:56 PM
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For instance, like Sambora in his solo stuff in this song...

bed of roses live, Bon Jovi

Oh, and to clarify...i mean his raking right before the first note of a solo phrase

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Jul 10 2013, 11:48 PM
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Ben talks a bit about raking in this lesson, give it a go: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Rockin-The-Blues/

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uncguy4321
Jul 11 2013, 02:15 AM
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thank you!

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Jul 11 2013, 02:42 AM
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I use it before a bend sometimes, so I use my picking hand. I learned it from Trond Vold.

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Jul 11 2013, 04:28 AM
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I use a combination of both.

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uncguy4321
Jul 11 2013, 05:08 AM
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Fireball! your three year evolution video really is an inspiration.

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Cosmin Lupu
Jul 11 2013, 07:28 AM
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Hey man smile.gif If you wish I can make a video for ya, I will show things slow, deal?

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Darius Wave
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Ok...so now I can tell I use my palm and the 1st finger of the left hand. This gives more clean, percussive sound even on a higher distortion smile.gif

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uncguy4321
Jul 11 2013, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jul 11 2013, 07:12 AM) *
Ok...so now I can tell I use my palm and the 1st finger of the left hand. This gives more clean, percussive sound even on a higher distortion smile.gif


So you use both at same time? Ive tried using my palm exclusively...just seems like theres always a chance that the next to last string might ring out accidentally.

The index finger method works, but forces me to use middle finger.

Not a huge deal, just was curious what you guys did.

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 11 2013, 06:28 AM) *
Hey man smile.gif If you wish I can make a video for ya, I will show things slow, deal?


Cosmin, thanks a ton for offering...but i think ive got the idea..been kinda working on it, and the videos already here seem to show me the usual method.

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Darius Wave
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Yes mate smile.gif I do use other fingers instead of first if it's necessary...all for the tone! smile.gif

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QUOTE (uncguy4321 @ Jul 11 2013, 07:24 AM) *
Cosmin, thanks a ton for offering...but i think ive got the idea..been kinda working on it, and the videos already here seem to show me the usual method.


Alright man, no biggie, just let me know when you need my help wink.gif

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Jul 12 2013, 07:42 PM
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I will for sure...this is an amazing resource. Glad I found the site

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QUOTE (uncguy4321 @ Jul 12 2013, 03:42 PM) *
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QUOTE (uncguy4321 @ Jul 10 2013, 10:08 PM) *
Fireball! your three year evolution video really is an inspiration.

Hey Thanks! Lots of people have said the same.

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uncguy4321
Jul 17 2013, 12:18 AM
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https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginn...String-Bending/

bear Rose uses a lot of raking in this lesson, though it's mainly about bending. He looks to use exclusively palm-muting as his raking technique.

I guess Ill have to just develop the touch. As a beginner, I find that sometimes I either palm mute ALL the strings (including my intended playing string) or I dont mute enough and I accidentally play the string above it.

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Taka Perry
Jul 17 2013, 07:05 AM
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When raking, I tend to play the final note with my middle finger, and have my index finger placed behind it lightly touching the strings. That's just me.

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Cosmin Lupu
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I think Darius explained things super nice in here: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=651040

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I use only my palm. I never thought to use both at the same time. Hmm....maybe I didn't thought because I never used higher distortion biggrin.gif

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