Osama Bin Laden Dead`, All over the news. 10 years to get this guy
Todd Simpson
May 2 2011, 05:19 AM
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Took quite a long time. Pakistanies acting a bit shocked that he was on their turf.

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Mudbone
May 3 2011, 07:52 AM
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I'm glad to see this chapter has finally been brought to end... or so it seems. Theres always more to the story than whats immediately apparent. The Pakistani ISI is a very effective intelligence agency, so it is likely they knew about Bin Ladens whereabouts. So the question here is why would they be entangled with him? There is a possibility this web of entanglement could extend farther than the ISI.

Pakistan lies in a very difficult part of the world, and they have their own problems. We should keep in mind they're going to look out for their own interests before they give a thought to caring about ours.

The reason why there was a surgical strike by Navy SEALS instead of dropping an enormous bomb over his head is because a) we weren't 100% sure it was him in the compound b ) if it was him, we would need to produce a body, which a JDAM would most certainly vaporize c) this is the most important - he was thirty miles outside of the capital of Pakistan, having B-52's flying over and bombing a suburb of the capital would have completely obliterated that building and our relationship with Pakistan. Bombing the Northwest Province of Pakistan is borderline acceptable because the Pakistani military has no control over that area. Abbottabad (named after a British guy named Abbott believe it or not biggrin.gif) is where Pakistans equivalent of Westpoint/Sandhurst is located. You can see how bombing this place would be a bad idea.

As far as celebrating the death of Bin Laden, I'm not going to condemn it simply because its a great relief knowing that he is gone. But I think because we are the most powerful nation on Earth we should show a bit of humility. Gloating in the death of an anti-colonialist terrorist, no matter how loathsome he was, seems unbecoming of a powerful nation.

To quote Martin Luther King Jr., ‎"I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that."

Edit: I would like to add one more thing thats somewhat related. Many think that Obama releasing his birth certificate was a bad political move, why would he pander to a bunch of fools? But now it has become apparent that he knew that within a week there would be a major event that would dominate the news, and this whole birth certificate ordeal would be forgotten, and any return to it now or any time in the future would seem trivial. This is just a speculation of mine, I could be completely wrong tongue.gif

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- Todd Simpson   Osama Bin Laden Dead`   May 2 2011, 05:19 AM
- - skennington   shocked..they have been hiding him for years imo..   May 2 2011, 05:33 AM
- - Todd Simpson   Big celebration in front of the White House right ...   May 2 2011, 05:44 AM
- - Azzaboi   Why celebrate the death of someone... no matter ho...   May 2 2011, 07:28 AM
|- - Ben Higgins   QUOTE (Azzaboi @ May 2 2011, 07:28 AM) Wh...   May 2 2011, 11:10 AM
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- - Justin Myrick   I guess the phrase is correct: "Search and yo...   May 2 2011, 09:11 AM
- - Gitarrero   I agree with Azza here...the future will show what...   May 2 2011, 09:15 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   It could bring some very bad things. Reprisal, mar...   May 3 2011, 05:13 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   It could bring some very bad things. Reprisal, mar...   May 3 2011, 05:13 AM
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- - Jerry Arcidiacono   Very big news. Gonna watchin' the video.   May 2 2011, 09:18 AM
- - Frederik   RE: Osama Bin Laden Dead`   May 2 2011, 10:51 AM
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- - The Uncreator   I feel no remorse for the man. I am not one who be...   May 2 2011, 11:10 PM
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- - jstcrsn   if we knew he was there ,how much intel could we h...   May 4 2011, 02:00 AM
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