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Posted by: osiris Jan 23 2013, 11:56 AM

My new years resolution is to record a decent cover of Walk With Me in Hell. There's a special edition of Sacrament with stems for each instrument, but I can't find it to buy anywhere... Any tips?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 23 2013, 01:50 PM

Hi mate! Here you can get it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamb-God-Sacrament-Producer-Edition-2007-New-Compact-Disc-/120974344024

Posted by: osiris Jan 23 2013, 01:54 PM

Thanks, but... "This seller does not ship to Sweden"

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 23 2013, 03:22 PM

mmm the same happens with Argentina...

by the way check my personal message!

Posted by: osiris Jan 4 2022, 07:58 PM

I would say this is not going great. I've picked up this song on numerous occasions, but I can't quite nail it. Especially that intro lick...

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 4 2022, 08:35 PM

What is the problem with the intro lick?

Posted by: osiris Jan 4 2022, 08:58 PM

It's too hard :-D

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 5 2022, 07:16 AM

Ola did a lengthy lesson vid on playing this very song. Not sure if you've seen it? I

Posted by: osiris Jan 5 2022, 09:02 AM

I did. It's kind of demotivational to see him nail it within a couple of hours :-D

But I actually started practicing again. Who, nows ten years from the start maybe I'll be done.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 7 2022, 03:05 AM

Don't let it throw you off. He probably spent a bit more time than it seems and cut out some of it for time. it makes it look like he sorta breezes through it. Ola is a great rythm player so I'm not shocked he was able to adapt to it though. The slow down bit in logic seems cool for learning. I don't know if other daws can do this without changing the notes but I"m guessing it's possible in whatever daw you have.

I'd suggest slowing down the track to the point you can play the bit without mistake and and start marching up the speed a bit after a few rotations. Before you know it, your fingers will adapt and bam!!

Posted by: osiris Jan 7 2022, 10:10 AM

I've used the slow-down functionality in Reaper, and I think I've got a big part of the song down that way. But that intro is... just hard. I'm close on the first variation, but then when you go into the second one with the string skip it just turns to mush.

But I'm tuning my e standard 6 to drop d now and I'll spend my work breaks on this to see where it takes me :-)

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 7 2022, 12:12 PM

Let us know how it goes - or even if you're up for it, how about a progress video? Always good to see how other people work through challenging parts.

Posted by: osiris Jan 12 2022, 09:18 AM

I was thinking about a progress video and then I tried yesterday. I wasn't... very good.

I can do the rhythm parts at something like 95% speed, but the leads at 80%. Maybe. :-/

I will post a video, but not right now. I still have a year to beat the 10 year mark. :-D

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 13 2022, 02:59 AM

would love to see your progress vid! This is a very tricky bit of playing to be sure.

Posted by: osiris Jan 14 2022, 01:51 PM

Alright, this is all I got right now. Inconsistent (both notes and tempo) even at 85% speed. Haven't tried this for a long time (except for the last couple of days) so I'm still trying to get back to where I was... Lead has always been my kryptonite, so much better at rhythm. Here, hand sync AND string skip is the hardest part I'd say.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 14 2022, 02:31 PM

Let me know if you want me to tab out some of the exercises I mention here, if you feel they could help

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 14 2022, 03:07 PM

Decided to upload them anyway for anyone interested:  String_Skipping_Exercises.gp ( 10.28K ) : 44


(See my video reply and post above for context)

Of course these can be taken through any scale or mode

Posted by: osiris Jan 14 2022, 04:28 PM

Cool, I'll check them out during the weekend!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 14 2022, 04:49 PM

Impressive work! This is a very tricky bit to play and you are making very good progres. It's a lot to juggle all at once. The picking, muting string skipping, Your playing it pretty darn well at this stage and the pace is very smooth. I think you are pretty close to nailing it. Just a bit more work. Keep it up!

Todd

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 14 2022, 08:18 PM

Awesome I thought about it for a second after and it actually goes through a few different things - string skippings with 3 notes per string, string skipping with 2 notes per string and string skipping with 1 note per string, as well as string skipping between the A string and the high E string

Posted by: osiris Jan 14 2022, 10:48 PM

Thanks! I think what I need now is muscle memory and motivation. :-D

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 15 2022, 07:09 PM

We could all use a bit more motivation imho there is always a need for that. if only we could bottle it and sell/buy it eh? The repetition will provide the muscle memory portion of things. You've got this lick down from the look of it, just needs to rep through it a bit until its' almost second nature. Super awesome job on learning it and playing it this well!

Posted by: osiris Jan 17 2022, 01:53 PM

Just some positive comments like this is doing wonders for motivation :-)

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 17 2022, 01:56 PM

Todd's always positive - it's really great for motivation!

I'd say you're nearly there too. A bit of practice and then you're nailing it!

Posted by: osiris Jan 17 2022, 02:57 PM

Had to build a birthingbox for the dog this weekend so I didn't have time to practice or watch the videos :-D

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 17 2022, 03:05 PM

I hope your dog is doing good

And no worries. If you forget I'll remind you some time

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 17 2022, 07:13 PM

Its sometimes good to take a bit of a break imho It allows the brain some time to process. I've had this help me many times. Simply putting it away and coming back to it can really make a huge difference. Your time spent away could be the key that unlocks it!!!

Onwards!

Todd

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 19 2022, 08:29 PM

I usually feel I come back better after a break - maybe not in the beginning technique wise, but it's like riding a bike, you get back up to speed again soon. But I come back with new ideas in improvisation and a fresh mind and new phrases.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 22 2022, 10:15 PM

Very well said. Just having a bit of a break can really inspire one to come back with new ideas.

Posted by: osiris Jan 26 2022, 08:45 AM

I kind of got caught up in mixing my AI lyrics song to put it on Spotify now instead. This is how I never complete this cover :-D

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 27 2022, 04:51 AM

That AI viking song turned out great!!!! Congrats

Posted by: osiris Jan 28 2022, 02:21 PM

Posted it now via Distrokid, about a week of waiting until it's up.

Need to finish that second song now.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 29 2022, 06:36 PM

Nice, Osiris!

Have you had time to check out the video from last page?

Posted by: osiris Feb 18 2022, 03:41 PM

I finally did!

I tried a few of the string skipping exercises, and it's super obvious that my problem is with my picking hand. I don't have any real problems with hitting the right frets, but boy do I hit the wrong strings. I'll try doing them with a bit more focus and see if it will help over time. 5 string skip is... pretty consistently inconsistent I'd say. And in the song it's just one skip. Just like for you, it's 100% the second pattern that challenging. First pattern is fine.

It gets better when I've done it for a bit, but then I feel I'm back where I was when I start a new practice session. I'm hoping that the exercises will help over time. I think I picked them up from the video.

Posted by: Bas Cuthach Feb 19 2022, 06:08 PM

what i learned, exercises, slow the song down, practices, and take breaks and make it fun to learn also i looked up some tabs for the song and watching the way others finger the lick gave me some ideas on other ways to finger it, ha, i just started playing it due to this thread, its a bit tricky for sure, i will take it in little bits at a time, sooner or later i will get it down, added it to the list of songs i want to learn...also grabbed a copy of the string skipping exercise and took a gander at it, will work on that as well. nicely done

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Feb 19 2022, 11:48 PM

Yeah, the second one was the struggle. I was trying to break it down a bit in the video for myself. I'm sure you're very nearly there!

And yes, the 5 string skip is awkward! I like the exercise as it kinda runs through different kinda skips, groupings and strings. Of course you could move the pattern to other strings too.



Let me know how it goes with the exercise