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Dec 25 2012, 03:41 AM |
Hey guys,
I finally signed up to this site after drooling over the videos for a couple of year! I need some help though because I need equipement to record in my flat. Right now I plug my guitar to a Focusrite 2i2 into Guitar rig 4. The thing is I'm not satisfied with this software, it's isn't as natural as I would like it to be. I would also like to have similar sounds live. So now I am looking at rack unit such as the Line 6 Pod HD pro and Eleven Rack and Axe FX etc... I use Logic so the Eleven Rack doesn't seem to be a good idea and I use dual amps very often and it doesn't have that feature. This isn't a Line6 vs Axe FX II vs Eleven Rack post. What I would like to know is: What do you guys think? Are there any other options? Thanks! -------------------- Gear: -Fender Amercian Deluxe Tele -Ibanez RG2550Z
-Arturia Keylab 61 -Eleven Rack -Bugera V22 -Laboga The Beast -M-audio Bx5a Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/soft-square |
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Dec 26 2012, 11:40 PM |
I know what you mean! I'm also looking for a solution to record "awesome sounding guitars" at home studio!
From what I have found so far - great sound card + Axe FX seems like my best bet to be able to record very good sounding guitars. Its just another world in comparison to software modeling. Also - I think in this new technology age we are getting more and more options to record very decent recordings in home studios which was impossible just a few years back. Recording guitars "the usual way" is just hard : you need a very good treated room, excellent amp, mic, preamp, knowledge how to do it.... Its just too complicated. Axe Fx and similar units are starting to "delete this barrier", I think... -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
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Jan 11 2013, 08:18 AM |
Fear not The problem you are having is quite common. The good news is, you are on the right path by pushing toward good tone and asking questions. Here are some answers
1.)Axe Fx RAWKS -The unit is just amazing. They release a new version every year or two so they become outdated pretty quick, but you can always sell it on ebay to get a new one, or just keep it and let it do what it does. 2.)Software Guitars -I use emulators/sims to record everything these days but it has taken me a couple of years to get good presets built. It's an arduous/tedious process especially at first. LUCKILY I"ve done it for ya! Here is a link to my GUITAR RIG 4 (They can be imported in to Guitar Rig 5) PATCH ARCHIVE. -Wads of High Gain solo tones and other bits mixed it. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=37629 Todd Hey guys, I finally signed up to this site after drooling over the videos for a couple of year! I need some help though because I need equipement to record in my flat. Right now I plug my guitar to a Focusrite 2i2 into Guitar rig 4. The thing is I'm not satisfied with this software, it's isn't as natural as I would like it to be. I would also like to have similar sounds live. So now I am looking at rack unit such as the Line 6 Pod HD pro and Eleven Rack and Axe FX etc... I use Logic so the Eleven Rack doesn't seem to be a good idea and I use dual amps very often and it doesn't have that feature. This isn't a Line6 vs Axe FX II vs Eleven Rack post. What I would like to know is: What do you guys think? Are there any other options? Thanks! |
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Jan 13 2013, 02:35 AM |
As everybody said here, AXE seems to be the best option, but it depends on your budget, if you can't achieve it, I can recommend Pod HD 500 which is a really good unit. I use it for my lessons and for demo songs and it really does its job.
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Jan 15 2013, 08:45 PM |
Depending exactly what you're after there's always this as an option:-
-------------------- I'd rather have a full Bottle in front of me than a full Frontal Lobotomy!!
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Jan 16 2013, 09:09 AM |
Mate, if you are looking for a great tone, I recommend this little dude right here - the AMT SS20- it has three channels: clean, crunch, gain and that's all you need. I add the FX in the DAW using various pluggins and that's about it. It is a great analogue tube preamp and it will sound more organic than anything in its price range!
Check out this link for tech specs -> http://amtelectronicsusa.com/productpagess20.html |
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Jan 16 2013, 03:50 PM |
Mate, if you are looking for a great tone, I recommend this little dude right here - the AMT SS20- it has three channels: clean, crunch, gain and that's all you need. I add the FX in the DAW using various pluggins and that's about it. It is a great analogue tube preamp and it will sound more organic than anything in its price range! Check out this link for tech specs -> http://amtelectronicsusa.com/productpagess20.html Do you just record by line with this one and get a good tone? -------------------- My lessons
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Jan 17 2013, 09:09 AM |
You can save some money and build an isolated room in your house (if it's not too small). That's what I'm doing right now. If you're on a budget and your house is small, I think the AXE FX, KEMPER PROFILING AMP and POD HD500 are the best options, followed by the famous plugins, like Amplitube, GR etc. I don't know anything about this pedal Cosmin is talking about but for sure it sounds good too. Thanks Andre The solution I suggested is the tube handy one, so no fx included or any other extra things. I will buy this thing next month: I was very happy with the tones we got from it when recording some Days of Confusion demos - I have also posted them here on GMC so that everyone may get them: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=41250 This post has been edited by Cosmin Lupu: Jan 17 2013, 09:10 AM |
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Jan 18 2013, 12:27 PM |
Pete Thorn made a very basic iso room in a closet, and recorded his Guitar Nerd Album with it.
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Jan 18 2013, 04:11 PM |
Sorry I should have said "Every 2 or 3 years" which is the release schedule for all versions so far.
Axe-Fx, was introduced in 2006. Axe-Fx Ultra was introduced in 2008. Both of these models were discontinued in June 2011 when a new unit, the Axe-Fx II was introduced. So there's that You do bring up a good point about playing the "Outdated" versions, I"d play the oldest version they have and be THRILLED about it. If you are the type to want the "Latest and Greatest" updating your plugins can be pretty simple. For example, every update of OVERLOUD has been FREE. But updating your AXE FX has so far required buying a new unit. Todd Welcome dude! Can I ask what type of music you're looking to record? It can help us out more if we know what you play. I don't wanna recommend an expensive mult-effects unit or software package if another option does your style of music better. Not true at all. Cliff said 3 years MINIMUM before an AxeFX III comes out. It does not become outdated. I would still use an Ultra because it still sounds awesome. Just because a new version comes out doesn't make the old one worse than it is! COS!!! Welcome to the Wonderful World of Software Amp Modelling!!! The TONEPORT is a great way jump in. No muss, no fuss, plug in and BINGO! *The really GOOD NEWS is that the TONE PORT will act as an interface for just about any VST guitar plugin like OVERLOUD/AMPLITUDE etc.!! Todd Thanks Andre The solution I suggested is the tube handy one, so no fx included or any other extra things. I will buy this thing next month: I was very happy with the tones we got from it when recording some Days of Confusion demos - I have also posted them here on GMC so that everyone may get them: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=41250 |
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Jan 19 2013, 09:06 AM |
Thanks Todd! Have you tried those patches I posted? This little midget can pack in a strong punch!
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Jan 19 2013, 09:20 AM |
Sorry I should have said "Every 2 or 3 years" which is the release schedule for all versions so far. Axe-Fx, was introduced in 2006. Axe-Fx Ultra was introduced in 2008. Both of these models were discontinued in June 2011 when a new unit, the Axe-Fx II was introduced. So there's that You do bring up a good point about playing the "Outdated" versions, I"d play the oldest version they have and be THRILLED about it. If you are the type to want the "Latest and Greatest" updating your plugins can be pretty simple. For example, every update of OVERLOUD has been FREE. But updating your AXE FX has so far required buying a new unit. Todd COS!!! Welcome to the Wonderful World of Software Amp Modelling!!! The TONEPORT is a great way jump in. No muss, no fuss, plug in and BINGO! *The really GOOD NEWS is that the TONE PORT will act as an interface for just about any VST guitar plugin like OVERLOUD/AMPLITUDE etc.!! Todd Hardware updates yes, but if you look the firmware updates come very quickly and free from Cliff. Axe II is already on v11, his updates includes improved sound quality additional amps cabs and effects. Line 6 and Eleven Rack would charge for these types of upgrades and leaving you hanging for months for them after they'd been promised. Cliff took the Axe Ultra as far as the hardware would allow, his new algorithms for better amp modelling meant a complete new format and a dedicated TigerSHARC processor was needed just for the amps and another for effects (allowing for even better effects). It's no different really than a plugin spec saying it needs a 64 bit O\S and DAW or so much Ram or processing power to work. Oh dear have I turned into a Fractal Audio Fanboi -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Jan 21 2013, 01:15 PM |
I agree on the commitment side of things as a purchase, but from my point of view the price meant that I had to commit to learning how to use it, and to take it seriously as a Professional piece of gear, I'm not sure I would have had the same attitude with Line 6.
Sometimes commitment is a good thing. I committed to my Tyler BW and the Axe and since then my mind has been much more free to think about playing and progressing than thinking about gear. I'm not saying the G.A.S has completely gone but it is well under control (getting married contributed to that as well) but having pricey pro gear means if I can't play as well as I want or have the tone I want, it ain't the gear that's the problem!!! This post has been edited by PosterBoy: Jan 21 2013, 01:16 PM -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Jan 24 2013, 08:36 AM |
Commitment is a good thing in a lot of cases - commitment to bad stuff is a bad thing
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