Musically What Is This?, And why does it still take my breath away? |
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Musically What Is This?, And why does it still take my breath away? |
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Jan 11 2019, 09:57 PM |
Hello folks,
Okay, this is one of my all-time favourite pieces of music. There are three notes in it, followed by another three contrasting notes that are performed in such a way that even to this day, 30+ years later, they still make me catch my breath. What is Mr Satriani doing here in a theoretical musical context? He builds the piece up and then BOOM, pulls it right back into sentimentality, poignancy etc with those six notes. The first three notes of the six are the ones that actually make me hold my breath and the second three make me release it. The six notes in question happen at the 10 second mark in this clip: https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/awmawy And if you watch the whole thing, so as to get the full impact, they happen at 2:27 in this YT video: https://youtu.be/VI57QHL6ge0 This man has a very special skill for creating melody and this piece is one that, along with Surfin With The Alien and Summer Song, I always use to introduce people to him. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 11 2019, 10:47 PM |
To me those 5 seconds are just sublime. It's not just the notes, it's the way the third note is cut off at just the perfect moment to give a split second of suspense and the gentleness of the next three notes demonstrating tenderness.
Extremely well crafted -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 12 2019, 01:00 AM |
F# to G# to B.
Probably the most cadential 3 notes in western music for the last 1200 years. 5 > 6 > 1 over an F#7sus going to B. Satriani for me is the coolest of the guitar instro shredders because he's got some 'soul'. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 12 2019, 01:49 AM |
In this case there's no dissonance whatsoever. It's really consonant.
The F# and G# over the F#7sus and a B over the B chord (the root or 'home' key chord). You can think of that F#7sus as both an F# and E chord (IV and V of the key) at the same time. V to IV or IV to V is the most standard resolution in western music. The F# note is the root of an F# chord and the G# is the 3rd of an E chord. It is a perfect V - IV - I resolution. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 12 2019, 02:11 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 12 2019, 06:06 AM |
WOW,
This is already a lot more interesting than I anticipated. I don't understand a lot of what is being said but good old Google is helping me out For me personally, I haven't heard any other five seconds of music that does that to me, makes me hold my breath and release. I'm not sure it's the notes or the way they are played or a combination. Delivery can make all the difference. I guess it's like hearing someone with no pain and flair recite Remember by Christina Rossetti and then hearing a Shakespearean actor do it, especially a female, brings tears to your eyes it does. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 13 2019, 09:30 AM |
In this case there's no dissonance whatsoever. It's really consonant. The F# and G# over the F#7sus and a B over the B chord (the root or 'home' key chord). You can think of that F#7sus as both an F# and E chord (IV and V of the key) at the same time. V to IV or IV to V is the most standard resolution in western music. The F# note is the root of an F# chord and the G# is the 3rd of an E chord. It is a perfect V - IV - I resolution. Do you know if any others that have that perfect resolution Ken? I'm thinking I must have heard some but they just haven't had the same impact. Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 13 2019, 06:43 PM |
Pretty much all of Baroque and classical music: Bach, Handel, Mozart, early Beethoven - they all have the super strong V to I pull. For me, the Satriani is cool but I don't get the emotional impact that you do. That's art.
Beethoven's 6th Symphony in F major (the Pastoral Sym) does it all over the place. Mozart #40 IMO has just other worldly resolutions ... in minor (G minor). Both of these are "perfect" pieces of music, full stop! -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 13 2019, 06:57 PM |
Thanks Ken, I'll have a listen to those as soon as I get chance,.
I like the way you said "full stop" and not "period". Made me chuckle -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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