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Posted by: Mark Schiewe Aug 7 2007, 10:17 PM

From what I have read it seems to be an amazing amp. I saw some clips on Youtube of people playing their Legacy's and the tone was unbelieveable, it's got that great Vai sound. Now I know $1039 may be a little steep but I'm thinking of getting one. Does anybody here have experience wih Carvin amps?

http://www.carvin.com/products/single.php?ItemNumber=vl212&CID=GA

Posted by: shredmandan Aug 7 2007, 10:23 PM

Cant say that i do.Im sure though is Steve Vai uses one it is a great amp

Posted by: JVM Aug 7 2007, 10:40 PM

I was thinking of getting one of the carvin vintage amps, but I can't find them anywhere to test.

Posted by: Pavel Aug 7 2007, 10:42 PM

I played it once. Clean channel is something unbelievable! I didn't get some decent distortion out of it but i couldn't spend some time with it as it was in a guitar center and the stuff was not too happy about me cranking up a tube amp so...

Posted by: deanrzrback Aug 9 2007, 03:19 AM

Not to get off of the subject, but why does the JEM have flowers all over it?

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 9 2007, 09:46 AM

I think Carvin are about to revise/make a new version of the Legacy. So it might be worth waiting a few weeks Mark as the price of the present one may drop and the new one might be worth checking out. Not sure I'd have the patience to wait though .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Mark Schiewe Aug 9 2007, 11:28 PM

Thanks Tony, yes I can definitly wait.

Dean, it has flowers on it because thats just how that model looks? Sorry I can't provide a better answer

Posted by: Pavel Aug 10 2007, 12:06 AM

There are several JEM models - the only difference is the pattern so that one is with flowers. White, blue, black, etc... there are lot's of them!

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 10 2007, 12:34 AM

heres a bunch of jems

http://www.jemsite.com/gallery.htm

Posted by: Rawk on Aug 10 2007, 12:36 AM

The only problem I've heard with the legacy is that there is no master volume.

Kind of limits it's day to day applications.

Posted by: deanrzrback Aug 10 2007, 01:14 AM

Oh ok.
I didn't realize there were so many. I kinda like the JEMuv777bk, and I really don't care for ibanez guitars all that much.

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 10 2007, 01:31 AM

Posted by: Hardtail Aug 10 2007, 05:38 AM

If the clean channel is worth anything (which it sounds like it probably is) then matching the volume of the channels shouldn't be that hard for mid-song switching.

- Hardtail

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 10 2007, 06:26 AM

New Legacy is supposed to be a 3 channel one. When it will be ready though... Vai mentioned working on it with Carvin in a UK mag - I think it was June's 'Guitar Buyer'.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Mark Schiewe Aug 10 2007, 06:29 AM

3 channel? Clean, distortion/sustain, and what else?

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 10 2007, 06:36 AM

At a guess Mark (sorry didn't keep the magazine) clean, od, hi-gain...

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: JVM Aug 10 2007, 06:41 AM

http://www.jemsite.com/jem/photos/jem10/10.jpg, http://www.jemsite.com/jem/photos/vai_axes/v_u_brn.jpg(swirled and burned), and http://www.jemsite.com/etc/dl/virtualjem/vjems022.jpg..

BEAUTIFUL guitars. Especially the last one.

[edit] what is up with double-postage tonight?

Posted by: fkalich Aug 10 2007, 06:58 AM

not in my eyes. they might be nice guitars, but actually, i consider them slightly ugly.

edit: i looked again. well not really ugly, just, well, not what I call a really good looking design. just not that attractive. actually i think a telecaster is a good looking guitar. they just overdo it on the flowery look, and those pointy curvy horns, don't like them. and the handle, awful. Also, wood grain looks good. I just about always would prefer wood grain, well, always.

Posted by: JVM Aug 10 2007, 07:25 AM

Well I try not to discriminate. By beautiful I mean, the best jems, in my eyes. I love the look of my tele as well The only standard shape I don't really like is the warlock.

Posted by: Pavel Aug 10 2007, 09:09 AM

The last one is a digital model! It doesn't exist actually! I agree though that they are beautiful!


deanrzrback: UV777 is not a JEM - it's another Vai's signature guitar called UNIVERSE - as you know - a 7-string. I played it! AWESOME guitar. Unbelievable neck and playability.

Posted by: JVM Aug 10 2007, 09:14 AM

Aw, thats too bad. I'm surprised I didn't notice the heavy photo editing before, since I'm a photographer and know all the editing tricks myself

Posted by: Pavel Aug 10 2007, 09:31 AM

Talking about JEM's, check this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwVyBnPxsOg&mode=related&search=

10th Anniversary Jem!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 10 2007, 01:30 PM

Vai is always fiddling with his guitar vol control and has a volume pedal on his board, so I guess he does his level matching that way and argues that an additional knob is unnecessary and would be an additional device in the signal path.

I'm interested in this amp as a possible future purchase, so I am reading this thread with interest - think I'll get a low wattage device firsth though - I might even build it myself.

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 10 2007, 05:01 PM

There's a company that sells amp circuit designs, parts and even full kits to make in the UK Andrew called http://freespace.virgin.net/vyse.co/. Don't know what they're are like I'm afraid as I've never used them but could be worth a look.

Only doubt I have present about the new Legacy is the timescale. I'd be willing to wait - but I don't know for how long although I'm assuming if Vai is talking about it it must be close to market .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Mark Schiewe Aug 12 2007, 05:59 AM

Andrew, I plan on getting the new legacy the day it comes out, so ill give a review on it as soon as I get it to help you choose.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 12 2007, 06:22 AM

Cool - thanks