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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 10 2012, 09:34 AM
Hey mate - this here is (yes, you guessed it 
) your thread in which we shall be dealing with djent and rhythmic ideas!
Djent is all about the tone, tuning and interpretation - you can play djent using any scale you want actually 
I wanted to ask if you can show me anything you have recorded in this rhythmical direction It doesn't have to be djent but it should have rhythm elements 
Let's rock!
Cosmin
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 11 2012, 12:08 AM
I wanted to ask if you can show me anything you have recorded in this rhythmical direction It doesn't have to be djent but it should have rhythm elements
Let's rock!
Cosmin
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This is a collection of riffs that I've recording to show you how I currently riff. The last riff is a Djent breakdown (that's what I inteded it to be) and the rest is mostly melodic, Idk if this is good enough, but here it is, it's in Drop A#... But before we do anything else, can you help me set up the perfect Djent tone. Here's a list of my current gear until I get the Line 6 POD HD Pro..i know there's Djent presets around for them...but here's my gear.
Esp Ltd m-100FM
Zoom G1
Randall Rx120rh Amp head
Randall Rx412 cab
*I hope this help 
Djent_song.mp3 ( 1.87MB )
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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 11 2012, 08:25 AM
Good morning mate
Well, I don't know your gear unfortunately, but what I can tell you is that the tone which I hear now is pretty ok.
One thing I like to do, is listen to a recorded tone which I like and try to emulate it with the gear I have. I am the analogue dude, so too many parameters are a nuisance to me 
Once you get that POD, maybe you can use these: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=41250 They are special POD tones, built by my band mate in Aria, perfectly suitable for djenty/ drop tuned tones.
A thing which you need to work on is getting a very tight and accurate right hand technique which we can tackle together, by working on my Metal Metrics series
If you can get those riffs tight and mean - you will be able to tackle djenty stuff with ease. In the mean time, what sort of djent bands are you listening to? It's important to get they style imbued into yourself by listening to a lot of music!
Cosmin
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 11 2012, 10:38 PM
Ok, great, but I wouldn't be getting the POD maybe until late November or early December! The only bands I really know and like are Born of Orsiris, Periphery, and Feared. I really like Feared alot, and there's also Glass Cloud, but I'm not sure if it's a Djent band.
I'm sorry I'm making post late on the thread, I'm currently in school right now and I get home at 5:00. When I get home there's just enough time to do my homework really so yeah. I hope you understand. 
Also, what did you thing of those quick samples I gave you?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 12 2012, 07:55 AM
Well, first things first
Use this thread here, for an inspiration to your djent bands audition -> http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=40594
Second, your samples are very nice! I liked the ideas but I will be very insistent on you working with a metronome or backing tracks so that I can hear your playing in respect to a rhythmic landmark
This is how I suggest we should work, ok?
Cosmin
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 12 2012, 06:12 PM
Ok, thanks...I usually work with a metronome when playing most things. However, I just wanted you to her a quick sample. I don't want to rush you, but can you give me some kind of lesson/exercise to practice that would improve my Djent "licks", I guess...I think I have all the motivation and inspiration I need, I just need to understand what makes Djent, "Djent"? If you know what I mean... My riffing isn't as good as I want it to be and I'm hoping you can help me with that!
Also, I've checked out the forum and read most of the stuff that's on there, thanks for those post. I understand what Djent is, now I just have a tuff time making my own Djent songs. However, I learn things very fast and fluidly...It would be nice to have a good battle on here!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 13 2012, 08:50 AM
You will have more than a good battle my friend But to be able to reach that sort of precision, you need to become very good with rhythm. If you want to start working hands on, on something oriented in that direction, how about this one?
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Metal-Metrics-6/
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 13 2012, 10:34 AM
Ok great, I'll get right to playing it. Would you like me to record it when I've finished learned it to let you hear my progress?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 13 2012, 11:03 AM
Would you like me to record it when I've finished learned it to let you hear my progress?Certainly
Please do so!
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 17 2012, 02:11 AM
Next...lol
Here's me playing your lesson Cosmin. I've also added a little surprise in there for you...haha
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 17 2012, 06:25 AM
Hey man, can you please re-post? I can't see anything embedded in this post 
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 17 2012, 11:32 AM
Here it is..It's not embedding right for some reason, but here it is anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZSv4484Mow
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 18 2012, 10:26 AM
Howdy bro! Ok, now, the tone seems to be ok, but your timing is a bit faulty - by that, I mean that you are slightly behind the drum groove - pay attention to this issue and let's solve it together. Please re-record the take at 75% of the speed - using the backing track and play it from beginning to the end I want to hear all the riffs
Do we have a deal?
Cosmin
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 18 2012, 10:52 PM
I want to hear all the riffs Do we have a deal?
Cosmin
Sure. I'll let you know when I re-record it...I'll put it on SoundCloud this time though!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 19 2012, 07:35 AM
Alright man! Sounds very good Always be on the lookout for timing and tight playing - it's the basis of all the rhythmic things!
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 20 2012, 11:32 PM
I haven't got to re-record yet, but I was wondering what string gauge I should buy to get a really Djenty sound. Should I go with the "12-52" or should I get the "12-60"? Please tell me which one you think can get me a brutal sound will playing in Drop A#...
PS: I'm using a pitch shifter to tone down instead of tuning all the strings!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 21 2012, 07:29 AM
PS: I'm using a pitch shifter to tone down instead of tuning all the strings!
Mate, I am using 12-68 baritone strings from Elixir on my PRS Mike Mushok baritone guitar (tuned to drop A) and Elixir 12-52s on the PRS Paul Allender (tuned to drop C)
I think the 12-60 would work very well with drop A# though
it's a matter of testing
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 21 2012, 10:10 PM
I think the 12-60 would work very well with drop A# though
it's a matter of testing Ok, thanks, but I also play mostly Metalcore so I was thinking the strings might be to heavy and they would be right for that genre...I'll just get some string and test them out though. That's the only way to really know!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2012, 05:18 PM
Indeed, they should be heavy but they shouldn't feel heavy for your hands or for the guitar
Experiment a bit, will ya? How's the new movie going?
Cosmin
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 22 2012, 06:27 PM
Experiment a bit, will ya?
How's the new movie going?Cosmin
Sadly my guitar pedal isn't working atm... I have to find a way to get it to work...I'm sorry, but I'll try to get up just the audio up sometime soon!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 24 2012, 08:31 AM
Hey man! No biggie, but, what's wrong with it?
Posted by: eLeCtRoFrEaK0036 Sep 26 2012, 11:11 PM
There like a short or someting in the pedal it's self. I can hear the guitar, but very softly...
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 27 2012, 10:23 AM
Mate, if it's still under the warranty, take it down to the shop and see what they can help you with
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