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Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 2 2007, 07:15 AM
ok, lets say i exported something from Guitar Pro as a MIDI file, but i want it to put it on my ipod (yes, MIDI sound), so that means i have to convert it to mp3/wav. How can i do this? i try importing it to Audacity and then exporting it as a WAV file but when i open the file and click play, nothing happens.
Please help. thanks.
Posted by: muris Oct 2 2007, 07:24 AM
Please help. thanks.
I think you can export your work(midi) to wave straight from Guitar Pro.
Tho I couldn't do it myself...
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 2 2007, 07:26 AM
Tho I couldn't do it myself...
can you please tell me how, i tried doing that but when i play the exported file you can barely hear it...
Posted by: tonymiro Oct 2 2007, 07:34 AM
Not sure if you can do the midi to wav conversion in guitar pro (don't have it on this pc - on my laptop - so can't check. Other programes its usually part of the render to disc.
If you can't there are a number of software progs that claim to do midi/wav conversion. Have a look at http://www.midi2wav.com/as an example.
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: muris Oct 2 2007, 07:48 AM
If you can't there are a number of software progs that claim to do midi/wav conversion. Have a look at http://www.midi2wav.com/as an example.
Cheers,
Tony
Deal is there IS wave in export table...
Now,it asks me about record driver and offers 2 options:
-primary sound capture driver
-E-DSP Wave (DF 80)...my card is E-MU 1280m tho.
Whatever I choose,no sound in rendered wave...and file is bigger if I render bigger part of GP file tho...
Perhaps I should use Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth or som but it's not on the list.
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 2 2007, 08:04 AM
If you can't there are a number of software progs that claim to do midi/wav conversion. Have a look at http://www.midi2wav.com/as an example.
Cheers,
Tony
thanks tony, the program works really well, it converted the file, but i can only save 10 secs...
Perhaps I should use Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth or som but it's not on the list.
i dont understand what u mean...
Posted by: muris Oct 2 2007, 08:07 AM
i dont understand what u mean...
It means that I don't have proper driver for Midi playback while exporting it into wave
Posted by: Slammer Oct 2 2007, 08:11 AM
LOL I love the Mad Face Smilie
Posted by: muris Oct 2 2007, 08:12 AM
Posted by: Slammer Oct 2 2007, 08:13 AM
Gets me everytime
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 2 2007, 08:14 AM
ah ok i see.....
Posted by: tonymiro Oct 2 2007, 08:15 AM
Muris - are you doing that in GP or in Cubase? Cubase should be ok and has a GM midi set if I remember correctly...
FretDancer - 10 secs - not sure maybe the right position marker (if there is one in GP) isn't set to the end of the song but at 10 secs? Also look at preferences (or whatever the equivalent is in GP) just to make sure that it isn't set at 10 sec. Juan may well know as he is good in GP 
.
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: muris Oct 2 2007, 08:15 AM
Wait a sec,Tony is writing something,hope we'll get answer soon!!
Posted by: Hungus Oct 2 2007, 08:17 AM
You could try Goldwave (http://www.goldwave.com/release.php)
Once you have downloaded Options -> control properties -> Volume then tick "What U Hear". Once you have done that just set goldwave to record and play your file in guitar pro then once its done you can edit out the silences and save it.
Posted by: muris Oct 2 2007, 08:18 AM
Faster..
This is in GP Tony,in Cubase I have many VSTs to play Midi for me.
But in GP I write notes/tabs without using Midi for it(our conversation from few nights ago).
Posted by: tonymiro Oct 2 2007, 08:26 AM
Ah well sorry Muris,
Don't use GP very much and don't have it on this laptop so I'm not sure and can't check. May need either the right position marker taking out further, a preference changing somewhere beyond 10 secs . Just not software I use much - sorry .
Cheers,
Tony
(BTW Muris - the Axiom USB midi converter is reviewed in the October Sound on Sound - they liked it a lot. I'll post the summary for you asap.
Cheers,
T)
Posted by: muris Oct 2 2007, 08:28 AM
Don't use GP very much and don't have it on this laptop
so I'm not sure and can't check. May need either the right position marker taking out further, a preference changing somewhere beyond 10 secs . Just not software I use much - sorry .Cheers,
Tony
(BTW Muris - the Axiom USB midi converter is reviewed in the October Sound on Sound - they liked it a lot. I'll post the summary for you asap.
Cheers,
T)
No worries Tony,I'm still for wave to Midi.
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 2 2007, 08:28 AM
FretDancer - 10 secs
- not sure maybe the right position marker (if there is one in GP) isn't set to the end of the song but at 10 secs? Also look at preferences (or whatever the equivalent is in GP) just to make sure that it isn't set at 10 sec. Juan may well know as he is good in GP .Cheers,
Tony
i downloaded a program from the site you gave me but its a Trial Version, it converted my file but it says i can only save 10 secs from the MIDI file as a WAV file....
Posted by: tonymiro Oct 2 2007, 08:41 AM
Sorry FretDancer hadn't realised that the version was a limited demo to 10 secs.
http://www.polyhedric.com/software/mn/index.html is freeware and may be able to do it for you - though I don't know much about it. http://www.cc.rim.or.jp/~hiroki/english/ one converts but not sure if it renders or is shareware or freeware...
Only other that I'm aware of is a bit of a fudge imo as it's really a linux/unix port to windows.
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 2 2007, 10:10 AM
ok thanks alot tony, ill check both out.
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 2 2007, 10:25 AM
ok. I downloaded and tried the MIDInight software, seemed like a nice software, thought it would do the job. But there was a problem, when i try to play the MIDI song in the program, it says something like "no PRG's found". How can i fix that ?im gonna give the other software a shot.
Ok, i tried the other software but it only lets me record 30 secs of WAV file...
Posted by: muris Oct 2 2007, 05:16 PM
Ok, i tried the other software but it only lets me record 30 secs of WAV file...
Seems like my problem with GP
Look into preferences/options for MIDI playback device or som.
Try each offered option and see the result.
Posted by: tonymiro Oct 2 2007, 06:32 PM
As far as I can see FretDancer .prg is some form of file extension.
I've had a look around and Polyhedric (who make MidiNight) use a .prg extension in their WAVmaker software (which isn't free). I'm not sure why MidiNight needs it, and their website doesn't mention it at all.
Anyway if MidiNight has an options page/tab in it's screen have a look if you can alter the extension to some other. If it doesn't it looks like another non-starter I'm afraid.
TBH converting midi to a wav isn't going to be easy. Midi is event data and really hasn't any audio of it's own to call on. Muris (as an example) can do it in Cubase because he has softsynths that allow Cubase to essentially write the events to their wavetable and for that to be written as audio that is then rendered as part of (or all of) the wav file. Any software like MidiNight has to not only be able to read and convert events but also provide a full wavetable - and so essentially emulate a synth that the audio can be compiled from - or be able to call on one (I'd have thought that the most common would be the old Yamaha GS table). For some reason MidiNight seems to be looking for a different one to a GS here (guessing that's the .prg)
Going back to GP try the following (from GP) - note that you have to have the RSE installed:
>>Windows users :
In order to allow the WAV acquisition, with both MIDI and RSE sound, Guitar Pro uses the « Stereo Sound Mixing » line in the « Windows Volume Control » (accessible in the « Option » menu). Note that you must position yourself in the recording section (by default, the panel posted corresponds with the playing section). To do that, in the option menu of « Windows Volume Control » window, go into « Properties », and select « Recording » in the « Adjust volume for » section.
Once the « Recording control » panel is displayed, check if the « Stereo Sound Mixing » line is selected and its level not null. The level used must be relatively low to avoid the signal saturation in your exported WAV file.
Your computer is now ready for the RSE / MIDI sound acquisition in your WAV file from Guitar Pro.
<<
If that doesn't work then I can only think that GP doesn't seem to have a wavetable that it can compile audio for full rendering...
In short it's starting to look like it may be a non starter FretDancer at least as far as freeware goes - sorry about that. But try the GP fix and see if that works.
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: Hungus Oct 2 2007, 06:41 PM
Did everyone just miss the post about how you can do it easily and simply (and free) or am I just being ignored?
Posted by: tonymiro Oct 2 2007, 07:11 PM
Sorry Hungus -
I wasn't ignoring you - I was just lazy and went to the end post.
WRT Goldwave - which I agree is a nice freeware wave editor program - I don't think you can import a midi file in to it. (Same is true for Audacity). Wave editors work on audio files and cannot usually import and/or edit midi events or for that matter convert the midi event file to an audio stream.
I could be wrong though as I don't use Goldwave so it may have a trick up its sleeve .
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 2 2007, 09:05 PM
I believe Hungus was suggesting that you use Goldwave to record GT's output, so GT is doing the rendering to the mixer as it does whenever you playback, and you just record it through window's mixer.
Posted by: tonymiro Oct 2 2007, 11:01 PM
(Looks for icon that shows me slapping forehead!)
- yes my stupid Hungus (and Andrew) - I must have been having a bad night and morning! Use GW to record the output from GP...
(Does seem to assume that you can loopback either direct within the sound card or with a suitable audio cable externally but no great problem.))
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: Hungus Oct 2 2007, 11:24 PM
Ah its all good...I wasnt being serious. I was just actually trying to point out to Fretdancer that I had posted an convienent option because he may have missed it.
and yhea I think thats the deal Tony, the option is just called "What U Hear" and it records whatever sounds your computer may be making...
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 3 2007, 01:21 AM
Cheers,
Tony
Its down to the soundcard drivers I think, but I have never had a problem with doing this - the only question is whether the loopback occurs in digital or analog.
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 3 2007, 06:25 AM
I've had a look around and Polyhedric (who make MidiNight) use a .prg extension in their WAVmaker software (which isn't free). I'm not sure why MidiNight needs it, and their website doesn't mention it at all.
Anyway if MidiNight has an options page/tab in it's screen have a look if you can alter the extension to some other. If it doesn't it looks like another non-starter I'm afraid.
TBH converting midi to a wav isn't going to be easy. Midi is event data and really hasn't any audio of it's own to call on. Muris (as an example) can do it in Cubase because he has softsynths that allow Cubase to essentially write the events to their wavetable and for that to be written as audio that is then rendered as part of (or all of) the wav file. Any software like MidiNight has to not only be able to read and convert events but also provide a full wavetable - and so essentially emulate a synth that the audio can be compiled from - or be able to call on one (I'd have thought that the most common would be the old Yamaha GS table). For some reason MidiNight seems to be looking for a different one to a GS here (guessing that's the .prg)
Going back to GP try the following (from GP) - note that you have to have the RSE installed:
>>Windows users :
In order to allow the WAV acquisition, with both MIDI and RSE sound, Guitar Pro uses the « Stereo Sound Mixing » line in the « Windows Volume Control » (accessible in the « Option » menu). Note that you must position yourself in the recording section (by default, the panel posted corresponds with the playing section). To do that, in the option menu of « Windows Volume Control » window, go into « Properties », and select « Recording » in the « Adjust volume for » section.
Once the « Recording control » panel is displayed, check if the « Stereo Sound Mixing » line is selected and its level not null. The level used must be relatively low to avoid the signal saturation in your exported WAV file.
Your computer is now ready for the RSE / MIDI sound acquisition in your WAV file from Guitar Pro.
<<
If that doesn't work then I can only think that GP doesn't seem to have a wavetable that it can compile audio for full rendering...
In short it's starting to look like it may be a non starter FretDancer at least as far as freeware goes - sorry about that. But try the GP fix and see if that works.
Cheers,
Tony
i tried what you said. I didnt work..
sorry Hungus, im gonna give the software you mentioned a try.
Once you have downloaded Options -> control properties -> Volume then tick "What U Hear". Once you have done that just set goldwave to record and play your file in guitar pro then once its done you can edit out the silences and save it.
dude, i cant spot the "What You Hear" thing, it doesent appear....
Posted by: Hungus Oct 3 2007, 10:07 PM
Are you sure your in the right menu... do you see options like "MIDI Synth"
"CD Digital" "TAD-In" and "Auxiliary" because "What U hear" should be in the middle of those.
The menu is Options -> Control Properties -> "Volume"
If you still cant find it I can send you my version (its legal)
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 6 2007, 05:32 AM
"CD Digital" "TAD-In" and "Auxiliary" because "What U hear" should be in the middle of those.
The menu is Options -> Control Properties -> "Volume"
If you still cant find it I can send you my version (its legal)
no. i only have stuff that say "Master control" , "Mono mixer" , "Stereo Mixer" , "CD de audio" , "Microfono"
.....
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