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Aug 28 2009, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE (Murloc @ Aug 28 2009, 05:36 PM)  How do you create songs out of scales? How do you know what scale a song is in? What does it meen with different patterns or boxes? What does pentatonic meen? Why dont I understand any of this stuff? Hi, There's a lot to know. It can be very overwhelming for a beginner. I suggest you start with Andrew's Theory Board, at the Where to Start topic. Patterns and boxes are pieces of a scale, played on the fretboard. Don't confuse them with scales in and of themselves, they are merely how to play a particular scale at a *particular spot on the fretboard*. This will become more clear to you when you study the Major Scale (I suggest you do that after you're done reading through anything else you want to in Andrew's board). By the way, 'patterns' and 'boxes' are more or less the same thing. There is an overall 'pattern' of a major scale, which is split into boxes for convenience and ease of learning. Pentatonic means '5 notes' or something along those lines. They are a given scale with the note choice trimmed down. I suggest you learn more about this on your own after learning the Major Scale. To create songs out of scales takes enough experience that you are comfortable in them, when you study a bit more, perhaps try joining one of the Collaborations to try your hand at making music out of scales. As to why you don't understand any of it, you will, just keep asking questions and you'll get it! This post has been edited by JVM: Aug 28 2009, 10:51 PM --------------------  Gear: Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Gibson '67 RI Flying V, Mesa Boogie F-30 112 combo, crazy pedals. |
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Aug 28 2009, 10:59 PM
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There should be link to the theory board that easily could be found because that board makes theory much easier
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Aug 29 2009, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Aug 28 2009, 11:50 PM) Hi, There's a lot to know. It can be very overwhelming for a beginner. I suggest you start with Andrew's Theory Board, at the Where to Start topic. Patterns and boxes are pieces of a scale, played on the fretboard. Don't confuse them with scales in and of themselves, they are merely how to play a particular scale at a *particular spot on the fretboard*. This will become more clear to you when you study the Major Scale (I suggest you do that after you're done reading through anything else you want to in Andrew's board). By the way, 'patterns' and 'boxes' are more or less the same thing. There is an overall 'pattern' of a major scale, which is split into boxes for convenience and ease of learning. Pentatonic means '5 notes' or something along those lines. They are a given scale with the note choice trimmed down. I suggest you learn more about this on your own after learning the Major Scale. To create songs out of scales takes enough experience that you are comfortable in them, when you study a bit more, perhaps try joining one of the Collaborations to try your hand at making music out of scales. As to why you don't understand any of it, you will, just keep asking questions and you'll get it! Thanks, your reply was very helpful. I'll try looking in to the theory board and see if things get any clearer 
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Aug 31 2009, 12:47 AM
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In addition to everything said above, here's one very nice little site for you to check out:
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Aug 31 2009, 04:03 PM
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You welcome Murloc.
I posted that site couple of months ago here on GMC. It is extremely useful as it has great ear training tools. Theory part is not bad, but I would rather suggest you get a good book and read it. Mark Levine - Jazz theory book Link for it HERE That is one of the best theory books that I read after years of studying music. The price is a steal since I payed it 50$ (at the time). Get it if you can, read it and I am sure a lot of things will be easier once you go through first two chapters! |
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Aug 31 2009, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Aug 31 2009, 05:03 PM) You welcome Murloc. I posted that site couple of months ago here on GMC. It is extremely useful as it has great ear training tools. Theory part is not bad, but I would rather suggest you get a good book and read it. Mark Levine - Jazz theory book Link for it HERE That is one of the best theory books that I read after years of studying music. The price is a steal since I payed it 50$ (at the time). Get it if you can, read it and I am sure a lot of things will be easier once you go through first two chapters! Jazz theory book? I am not really into Jazz
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Aug 31 2009, 04:45 PM
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Exactly ESAJ!
Murloc get it, it starts from total beginner things all the way to advance concepts. It has over 400 pages!!! |
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Aug 31 2009, 04:53 PM
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But what would be the difference if it were a rock or blues theory book?
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Aug 31 2009, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (Murloc @ Aug 31 2009, 10:53 AM) But what would be the difference if it were a rock or blues theory book? It would be fewer pages and contain less information, in all likelihood. The mechanical requirements for those styles are substantially lower. I'd look at it this way: - If you want to know a little about how to play those styles, learn less - If you want to know roughly the same amount about those styles, learn from book about those styles - If you want to know enough to bring your OWN flavor to whatever style, learn more. It's fine to start out with an easier style, but it would be wrong of us not to warn you against limiting yourself. Eventually you'd start wondering "What else is out there," beyond the minor pentatonic box that your rock & blues book would leave you trapped in. Ultimately, it's your decision. 
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Aug 31 2009, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (Murloc @ Aug 31 2009, 04:53 PM) But what would be the difference if it were a rock or blues theory book? There is no rock theory book Music theory is for all music. Jazz theory is the term people use because they are explaining jazz modes, jazz chords and jazz concept which is imposible to explain without music theory. Rock is not as complex matter but some things can be explained through the music theory. 90% of rock guitar legends from 70's did not know music theory. If you learn basics of music theory and then move into understanding jazz concepts, rock will be just a piece of cake to understand as there is nothing that complex in rock (theory wise) but it sounds cool and we all like to listen and play it. Of course you can play rock without any theory knowledge but theory will help you a lot to better understand improvisation.
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Aug 31 2009, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (Murloc @ Aug 31 2009, 06:53 PM) I dont wanna steal  Its a expression when something is really cheap or good price
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