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May 29 2008, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE (Pi38 @ May 28 2008, 11:13 AM)  I'm very confused, but I'm sure that I'll catch on after reading it a few more times. Be my guest - then make sure you ask about anything you are comfused about 
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Aug 26 2008, 04:34 PM
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Diminished : 1,b3,dim5
Augmented : 1,3,aug5 Shouldn't this be half aug and half dim, due to the fact that it has a maj 3 for aug, and min3 for dim?
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Aug 27 2008, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Aug 26 2008, 11:34 AM) Diminished : 1,b3,dim5 Augmented : 1,3,aug5 Shouldn't this be half aug and half dim, due to the fact that it has a maj 3 for aug, and min3 for dim? Sorry, not sure what you mean - that's 2 different chord types you pulled out there, one is Diminished the other is augmented ... -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Aug 30 2008, 09:52 AM
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Root, b3, b5 = diminished (dim)
Root, b3, b5, bb7 = diminished 7 (dim7) Root, b3, b5, b7 = half diminished or half diminished 7 (m7-5 or m7b5 - locrian) -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Aug 30 2008, 01:38 PM
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Augmented chords:
1, b3, #5 (m+5) 1, b3, #5, b7 (min7+5 or min7#5) 1, b3, #5, 7 (min/maj7+5) 1, 3, #5 (+5 or just aug) 1, 3, #5, 7 (maj7+5) 1, 3, #5, b7 (7+5) -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Aug 30 2008, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Aug 30 2008, 08:28 AM) yes, but whwat about the augmented ones? Actually he's right - a basic augmented triad is always R, maj3, Aug5 If you play with the 3rd you will end up with something different. It will still be a triad of some sort but we only have names for 5 different basic types - Major, Minor, Diminished, Augmented, and Suspended (SUS2 & SUS4) With diminished, there is only one type of basic diminished chord - R, min3, dim5. With diominished, you can add notes to get different flavours that are named as Emir said, but are always based on that triad. It is the 3 notes of the triad that determine the basic chord type. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Aug 30 2008, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Aug 30 2008, 02:50 PM) Ok. I was really confused about the dim / half dim thing. I thought: Half dim: R b3 dim5 Dim: R dim3 dim5 But we cleared that up.  what's the difference between b3 and dim3? When you're writting a chord formula the rule is to use accidentals like "b or #", never write "dim" in the chord formula. You can use "dim" to name the whole chord. -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Aug 30 2008, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ Aug 30 2008, 04:12 PM) B3=minor BB3=dim3=diminished I got that from Andrew's chord rules. 1 2 3 6 7 = dim ->min->maj->aug 5 6 = dim->perfect->aug I am sorry I am writting too much on this topic because it's Andrew's place to explain theory but I will answer this one to conclude and I won't disturb anymore. I have never heard of "bb3". That's actually 2 or 9. I only know for "bb7" which sounds like major 6. "bb7" is only written when you want to write formula for the 7th chord and in the diminished7 case you have to write 1, b3, b5, bb7 because all 7th chords have to have 1,3,5,7 in the formula (accidentals depend on the chord type but these numbers have to be there in every 7th chord). Because of that you write bb7 instead of 6 for the dim7 chord. This list is from one of my upcoming lessons which should be online soon. I hope this will help. 1 – unison b2 – minor second 2 – major second b3 – minor third 3 – major third 4 – perfect fourth #4/b5 – augmented fourth / diminished fifth 5 – perfect fifth b6 – minor sixth 6 – major sixth b7 – minor seventh 7 – major seventh 8 – octave (this is never included in a scale formula as this is the same note as 1) there is more if you want to include 9, 11 or 13 but this will be enough for now. This post has been edited by Emir Hot: Aug 30 2008, 04:50 PM -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Aug 30 2008, 05:07 PM
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In theory you can have a diminished 3rd but it would be the same as a major 2nd so doesn't really perform a musical function - if you flatten a major 3rd twice you get a 2nd as Emir said, which makes the chord a sus2 not anything else.
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Oct 5 2008, 02:33 PM
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Glad to be able to help!
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fantastic job, it was a big lack in my knowledge
 
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