Need Your Advices On Fretless Guitar!, :) |
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Aug 6 2009, 10:42 PM
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Hello guys!!
So, I'm getting a fretless guitar soon. Actually I'm not gonna buy any but Mirza (MK Guitars) is going to build me one.  And ofc my main concern here is sustain. Vigier guitar company uses Delta Metal technique for fretboards but I really don't like the way it looks, I would rather go for something else, rosewood or ebony, dunno. Does anyone has some extra experience with fretless guitars and what wood combos would work nicely sustain wise? There is one more thing as well, I'll have a piezo in bridge, Fishman or Shadow maybe (any suggestions here?) along with 2 Stan Hinesley's humbuckers. And so there is another issue, I need a guitar with fine resonance to work with piezo AND to have nice sustain. Hit me with your thoughts please!! -------------------- Youtube
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Aug 6 2009, 10:45 PM
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dont have much for a helpful answer...
but sounds indeed EPIC 
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Aug 6 2009, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 6 2009, 11:42 PM)  Hello guys!! So, I'm getting a fretless guitar soon. Actually I'm not gonna buy any but Mirza (MK Guitars) is going to build me one. And ofc my main concern here is sustain. Vigier guitar company uses Delta Metal technique for fretboards but I really don't like the way it looks, I would rather go for something else, rosewood or ebony, dunno. Does anyone has some extra experience with fretless guitars and what wood combos would work nicely sustain wise? There is one more thing as well, I'll have a piezo in bridge, Fishman or Shadow maybe (any suggestions here?) along with 2 Stan Hinesley's humbuckers. And so there is another issue, I need a guitar with fine resonance to work with piezo AND to have nice sustain. Hit me with your thoughts please!! I've tried one fretless guitar, and I never thought it had less sustain really.. I just found it strange to play  But I'd go for Ebony or Brazilian Rosewood, as those are the best fretboards imo Looking forward to see it and hear some recordings with the fretless wonder though! |
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Aug 6 2009, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (audiopaal @ Aug 6 2009, 11:49 PM) I've tried one fretless guitar, and I never thought it had less sustain really.. I just found it strange to play But I'd go for Ebony or Brazilian Rosewood, as those are the best fretboards imo Looking forward to see it and hear some recordings with the fretless wonder though! Sustain has a lot do to with frets! Perhaps you played it with OD or dist so you couldn't notice nicely. Was is metal fretboard or wood fretboard btw? QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ Aug 6 2009, 11:53 PM) Hi.For the first issue I don´t know this matter of fretless guitar, but look forward when you get it, sure you´re be able to do amazing things with it. For the second I have a Ibanez Prestige RG1820X-GK (the guitar that appears in my lesson) and I´m very happy with the sustain (I changed the pick ups, and now sounds really good for me) The guitar has a piezo and I think also has a cool sound Wow, thanks for mentioning your Ibanez Sergio, it has LR Baggs piezo, I totally forgot about those!
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Aug 6 2009, 11:09 PM
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Aug 6 2009, 11:21 PM
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The one I played had a wooden fretboard I believe
But it's a while ago, so I won't bet my life on it
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Aug 6 2009, 11:21 PM
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By the way, do you know any videos/ recordings that you can recommend us for listen guitar players with this fretless guitar (apart of you
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Aug 6 2009, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ Aug 6 2009, 10:21 PM) By the way, do you know any videos/ recordings that you can recommend us for listen guitar players with this fretless guitar (apart of you )A few for you Sergio: The Police - Driven to tears RHCP - Mellowship Slinky Zappa - Torture never stops John McLaughlin - Mother nature Pat Metheny - Counting Texas -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Aug 7 2009, 12:15 AM
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I vote graphite Muris....
Cocobolo would be very nice as well....... |
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Aug 7 2009, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Aug 7 2009, 12:09 AM) Good old Tony, thanks!!!!!!! QUOTE (skennington @ Aug 7 2009, 12:13 AM) Never played one Muris and this is out of pure speculation but I would think that Ebony would be the way to go as it's a harder wood. I would also consider the strings and how they will ware on the wood, flat wound's maybe? Have you thought about glass? Glass seems interesting but I have glasses already!!  Joking, worth considering! QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ Aug 7 2009, 12:21 AM) By the way, do you know any videos/ recordings that you can recommend us for listen guitar players with this fretless guitar (apart of you )Tony gave you few but I actually want do play some Oud stuff. QUOTE (lcsdds @ Aug 7 2009, 01:15 AM) I vote graphite Muris.... Cocobolo would be very nice as well....... Nice thinking Monte, putting it on the list, thanks!
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Aug 7 2009, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 6 2009, 11:27 PM) Tony gave you few but I actually want do play some Oud stuff. This may be worth looking at then for a few ideas for you and Mirza Muris -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Aug 7 2009, 12:46 AM
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Cedar and Maple body, Ebony fingerboard, yeah.
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Aug 7 2009, 10:58 AM
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Hey Muris, you know I have one too
--------------------  incoming spoiler read it at your own risk! Spoiler: it, surely, spoiled me!!! and may the force be with you :) |
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Aug 7 2009, 02:06 PM
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I'd advice you guys to have a look on violin constuction and philisophy, they are fretless and have been for several centuries.
-------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson
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Aug 7 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Aug 7 2009, 11:55 AM) The fingerboard on Steve Vais' Fretless on his Tripleneck is Rosewood and he seems happy enough with it!!! PS. For some awesome Oud playing check out a band called Speed Caravan!! I saw them last year and was absolutely blown away by them!!!!!! Will do, thanks Jones. QUOTE (enforcer @ Aug 7 2009, 11:58 AM) Hey Muris, you know I have one too So, would you tell me something? QUOTE (Oxac @ Aug 7 2009, 03:06 PM) I'd advice you guys to have a look on violin constuction and philisophy, they are fretless and have been for several centuries. Violin has no sustain at all, they use bow instead to make longer notes. What I need is "best" possible combination of woods for neck and body sustain wise.
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Aug 7 2009, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (Gerardo Siere @ Aug 7 2009, 04:39 PM) I have an 1986 Vigier arpege, and its neck is hardened with some resine (I think it is called evanol) plus the nack of the neck is carbon fibre, gets a lot of sustain but sounds weird, like the fretboard it self has its own resonance). The key is hardness, the hard the material the more sustain you will get. Indeed, that's why I thought of Ebony. What about the body?
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