Beginner Introduction
Jak
Feb 26 2015, 06:54 AM
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Hi all,
Thought I'd drop by to introduce myself. Just wanna say first great community you guys have here, lots of helpful tips. So I decided to start learning guitar the beginning of this year after a long time interest in starting. Unfortunately just never had the time before but now I'm feeling pretty motivated to start learning! Currently learning on an epiphone lp I got from a friend.

Past two months just been practicing chords and alternate picking in addition to hammer ons/pull off exercises. Can use all the open chords and pretty comfortable with the E maj/min and A maj barre chord shapes. Started learning the neoclassical etude #1 which I can only play about 50% tempo without messing up. Also know one position for the major scale and the minor pentatonic scale but not really sure how to use them yet.

What other lessons would you guys recommend for a beginner like me? My ultimate goal is to be able to play hard rock/shred but I'm kinda feeling lost as a beginner. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks

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Kristofer Dahl
Feb 26 2015, 09:16 AM
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Hi Jak - and welcome!

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Started learning the neoclassical etude #1 which I can only play about 50% tempo without messing up.


If you are able to play a lesson - any lesson - and feel comfortable about practicing it (does not matter if speed is 50%), then you have found the beginning of your path.

It is now super important that you hunt for lessons that you really like the sound of. Try to not choose lessons based upon what you think looks cool etc - because your motivation to practice them day after day might drop if you don't connect with what's being played.

I would recommend you to try to find a lesson which is based on phrasing / bending / slow melodies. You can then practice technique with Marcus' neoclassical etude #1, and in parallel work on all the other stuff which makes up for a good lead.

Also if you would like to post a recording of you playing something (for example neoclassical etude #1 at slow speed), that would be really helpful.

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Feb 26 2015, 09:38 AM
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Todd Simpson
Feb 26 2015, 10:01 AM
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Welcome to GMC!! smile.gif It's a killer place to learn how to be a better axe man! smile.gif I"m Todd and I teach our weekend vid chats and we do lots of work on how to shred so please do stop by smile.gif The scehdule is on the front page!

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Feb 26 2015, 12:16 PM
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Hi Jak and welcome to GMC! See you around the forum smile.gif

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Gabriel Leopardi
Feb 26 2015, 04:08 PM
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Hi Jak! Welcome to GMC! I think that you are directing your first steps here really well.

The styles that you want to play require a good control of different techniques as alternate picking, legato, bending, vibrato, sweep picking, and off course right hand rhythm and palm muting. Regarding technique, you will need to learn shapes and how to use pentatonics, blues scale, minor and major scales, harmonic minor, and also some modes like Phrygian and Mixolydian.

This can sound like a lot of stuff, but the main goal is to be patient and create weekly routines based on short and long term goals. At this stage I think that you should start with this goals in mind:

- Learning the correct ways of using the main techniques: Alternate picking, legato, vibrato and bending. Don't focus on speed, focus on timing, right positions, and effective movements.

- Get the most of Pentatonic minor scale: Learn all shapes, learn licks and apply it over backing tracks.


The lessons that I suggest for each topic are:

Alternate picking: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/

Legato: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Land-Of-Legato/

Vibrato: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Vibrato-Odyssey-5/

Bending: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginn...String-Bending/

Pentatonic minor: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...licks-beginner/

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Bogdan Radovic
Feb 26 2015, 11:38 PM
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Hi Jak - welcome to GMC! smile.gif

I'm currently working on recording absolute beginner lessons, here you can check out the current list:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=53790

I'd love to hear from you what kind of topics you found difficult when starting and what you'd like to learn more about?

When it comes to playing hard rock and shred, my suggestion would be to learn how to play power chords if you haven't got a chance yet, here is my lesson on them: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/How-To...y-Power-Chords/

Once you know how power chords work, you could tackle any rhythm guitar lesson you find cool sounding and inspiring to you. Maybe start by searching for "power chords" and checking out lessons that come up.

BTW - Neoclassical Etude 1 is a very cool choice and playing it 50% is great as that piece is quite fast in original tempo.

What would be your immediate goals on guitar?
What do you feel you are struggling with or lacking at the moment?

If you could come up with a list of areas you'd like to improve, we could maybe help with some lessons suggestions.
When I say "immediate goals" I mean ones you can reach within 1 month of practicing like : getting better with hammer-ons, starting out with vibrato or bending technique, learning a scale, getting started with improvising a very simple lead etc.

Of course, please take our lesson recommendations with consideration that they are good recommendations ONLY if you find the lessons musically cool and inspiring. The most important goal is to be inspired and motivated while practicing and that is hard to do when practicing stuff which is "boring".

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Jak
Feb 27 2015, 06:17 AM
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Thanks for the recommendations everyone I'll be sure to check them out! I forgot to mention but I do know basic power chords shapes too.

My immediate goals on guitar is probably to get my alternate picking more fluid. At the moment it sounds kinda stacatto and choppy at times. Would also be interested in learning scales and how to apply them to create simple leads. This will probably be enough to keep me occupied for a while haha.

Quick question- do you guys recommend tackling more than one lesson at once? I mean should I be simultaneously practicing various lessons or should I be focusing on one lesson at a time

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Bogdan Radovic
Feb 27 2015, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (Jak @ Feb 27 2015, 06:17 AM) *
My immediate goals on guitar is probably to get my alternate picking more fluid. At the moment it sounds kinda stacatto and choppy at times. Would also be interested in learning scales and how to apply them to create simple leads. This will probably be enough to keep me occupied for a while haha.

Quick question- do you guys recommend tackling more than one lesson at once? I mean should I be simultaneously practicing various lessons or should I be focusing on one lesson at a time


Tackling more than one lesson at once is ok as some lessons might take some time to settle in. In order not to get bored, it is perfectly fine to rotate several lessons and work on them in parallel. For example you could be working on a solo lesson and a few technique/exercise based ones in parallel in order to get the chops up for use in the solo lesson.

My only suggestion here would be to practice a number of lessons which feels comfortable and fun to you. If you start feeling overwhelmed, try cutting down on amount of things you are working on. Another suggestion would be to pick a lesson which feels doable and fitting your level of playing. This will allow you to focus on it and get down all the details. You could maybe submit one of those lessons in the REC area for feedback? I'm suggesting this as details matter and it is what takes our playing to the next level. Having this in mind, maybe it is best to mix doable, lessons fitting your level of playing with more difficult, cool sounding "goal lessons". This way you both push your self and work on the details.

About alternate picking, staccato and choppy usually comes from the fretting hand not moving from one note to another in a smooth way. What happens is that you lose pressure on the previous note (fret) when going to another note. This cuts down the vibration and you get a small "pause" in between two notes. Maybe focus only on what the left hand is doing and practice this at a really really slow tempo? The goal is to keep the notes sustained and not make a pause when going from one note to another. Another issue might be synchronization between picking and fretting hand. In case they are not perfectly in sync, it is possible to get this "choppy" vibe when playing as the pick in not picking the note at the right moment left hand is fretting it. For example you can get slightly ahead of the picking hand and just pick a "dead note" or be too behind it so you get to hear a bit of "hammer-on" before you pick the note. Don't worry, this will come into place with some practice. Please just skip to low tempos in order to be able to clean up your playing and focus on details. Hope this helps smile.gif

When it comes to getting started with leads, one way would be to learn a single scale - let's say a minor pentatonic and then search for a lesson which uses it so that you can learn some licks in that scale. You can first learn the lesson as it is played by the instructor and then just jam over the backing track mixing the licks you learned, putting them into different places and just playing around with notes from the scale. Over time, you'll start to make up your own licks which make sense. Usually there is a phase when leads just suck smile.gif ....and then they start making more and more sense musically. The more licks you know the easier this transition will be.

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