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Jun 29 2015, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 29 2015, 10:09 PM)  As a freelance musician ... this can only mean more gigs! Gonna need a thicker agenda! 
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Jul 3 2015, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 29 2015, 01:17 PM) Gay folks aren't trying to force anyone to do anything. They don't want to force anyone to marry same sex if they don't want to  So there's no "force" in the decision. Just a recognition of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness as requisite whether one happens to be gay or straight. One more of the last vestiges of bigotry finally downed I guess you don't remember the lawsuit against the bakers for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple because of moral and religious reasons. Is this not forcing acceptance? And now there is a gag order against them to stop them from speaking out about gay marriage. I am sure you won't like the source but this is the latest news never the less. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/oregon...ake_983506.html http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/20...g-gay-marriage/ There is no question that there is a fascist element to the gay movement which is now pushing for an end to tax exempt status for churches based on their religious objections to gay marriage. This portion of the gay movement would seek to deny anyone from speaking out against gay marriage, forcing the acceptance and recognition of everyone no matter their religious and moral objections. |
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Jul 3 2015, 06:43 PM
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Folks have every right to bring lawsuits for anything and everything. But, refusing to serve people because they are Gay is the same things as not serving them for any other arbitrary reason, in legal terms anyway. Just as you can't refuse service because someone is black, or worships Satan, or is agnostic, you can't legally refuse them service just because they are gay. This is "forcing" a measure of equality. Not acceptance. As a vendor, you don't have to accept any lifestyle/religion choice on the part of your customers. But you can't have a "no gays served" sign in your store. In the case you mention, the Baker was held liable. Vendors don't have the right to be discriminatory.  Egad! Pulling the weekly standard in I might have to post something from Mother jones I don't think we have much to worry about from the "Fascist Gays" Unless you mean their keen fashion sense. Anyone can speak out against or for anything That's the beauty of it. Folks can speak out against gay marriage all they want Then again, we have no laws against spoken bigotry here unless it crosses in to hate speech. But after hearing THE DONALD go off all racist/xenophobic against Mexicans, it seems pretty clear that bigotry is widely available and supported by many in the GOP as he is second only to heir Bush in the poles. Sad. QUOTE (AK Rich @ Jul 3 2015, 12:24 PM) I guess you don't remember the lawsuit against the bakers for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple because of moral and religious reasons. Is this not forcing acceptance? And now there is a gag order against them to stop them from speaking out about gay marriage. I am sure you won't like the source but this is the latest news never the less. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/oregon...ake_983506.html http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/20...g-gay-marriage/ There is no question that there is a fascist element to the gay movement which is now pushing for an end to tax exempt status for churches based on their religious objections to gay marriage. This portion of the gay movement would seek to deny anyone from speaking out against gay marriage, forcing the acceptance and recognition of everyone no matter their religious and moral objections. |
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Jul 6 2015, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jul 5 2015, 10:59 AM) have you ever thought, maybe, the fat ch,um, pleasantly plump girls , hate you I hear they don't like uncontrollable urination The "I hate fat chicks" was supposed to hypothetically represent somebody else, just to clarify with everyone - I don't hold that view, ok?  But to answer you - yes, they may do, and they have that right although they're totally wrong - I'm amazing Re: urination, there might be a market in some corners of Europe for that sort of thing???? QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 5 2015, 08:34 PM) They really don't deserve anything other than being on the biz end of a Chally tank. High five, brother! QUOTE (Marek Rojewski @ Jul 6 2015, 07:06 AM) ISIS would not be a threat, if the Western World would still cultivate it values. Islam was always in a state of war with the Western World, but we always won, and we still would win and just overcome this obstacle. Although I'm not religious I can see how people follow a religion and only use it as a cause for good.. look at what great art, music and creations people have given to the world in the name of their faith. What would the Renaissance be without Catholicism? I can't imagine what Italy would look like if it were not for Christianity. Or Ancient Greece without the pantheon of Greek deities? Of course, others use it for the exact opposite which tells us is this; The world doesn't have a religion problem, it has a people problem. All problems that manifest amongst the human population are people problems. Incorrect gun usage is a people problem. Denial of the reality of incorrect gun usage is a people problem. Racial issues aren't a race problem, they're a people problem. The thing about the Middle East is that it has always been a tribal area with tribal boundaries and ties that run deep. When any outsider tries to put in a one size fits all government, it doesn't take into account the tribal nature of their culture. The Western forces that went there probably ended up learning more about how those areas work than anybody else. As you said, there has always been war in that area but it's always been that way... before Islam, before any Western countries went there. It's a people issue again. Terrorists like CystISIS want us to see it as us vs Islam. They want chaos. They are the big, fat angry kid who pees in the swimming pool and ruins it for everyone just because they can. They're a melting pot for every sad, pathetic, anti social sociopath who wants an excuse, any excuse, to hurt others. CystISIS is an excuse for people to carry out their psychopathy. Man, Marek you should post more often - you make my brain start working again. QUOTE (Marek Rojewski @ Jul 6 2015, 07:06 AM) Agreement upon those topics is another utopian lie that only the politically correct can believe in. I agree that it's not possible to have this. Why? We only have to look at the concept of a personality disorder like psychopathy. I know it seems I'm obsessed by this word but bear with me. Have any of you watched tv shows about serial killers where they talk about the 'normal guy next door' the lack of empathy, the amazing capability to lie and manipulate? Cutting to the chase, the end point is that these phenomenons cannot be cured. So you can imagine that using things like fairness and reason would be absolutely useless against someone of that mind. If Ted Bundy was coming at you with that look in his eye would you try to reason with him? How do we think that would go? Now let's apply that idea of battling psychopathy with reason to an entire group of people. No matter how much you conceded, play fair or give them what they want they are always looking for the next angle, the next moment to strike. There is no fair when dealing with certain people. Sadly this will never change. I see a lot of the liberal minded, young student types railing against any sort of mindset which acknowledges that fact but they're living in a dream. They're young, naive, reading all about human rights and think they can change the world with words, reason, intelligent debate etc. The only time that can work is with others that work by your rules and fair standards. As always, go back to the scenario with the psycho coming at you with an axe. Is he playing by your rules and social norms? If you can't change him with reason how can you tackle an entire organisation? In other news http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/05/anders-breiv...7/?ito=facebook This post has been edited by Ben Higgins: Jul 6 2015, 10:40 AM |
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Jul 6 2015, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 5 2015, 12:34 PM) Trump's remarks were quite simply bigotry. No other way to put it. Nothing to do with feelings. Just him making racist comments is all He has every right to be a racist, every right to be a bigot and claim that Mexicans are all "rapists". But we have every right to call him on it Here is Donald defending it.Here is the complete video of Donald Trumps speech that folks, including you are condemning as racist. I challenge you to highlight just one quote that claimed the entire Mexican race are rapists, murderers or whatever. You can't find that quote because it doesn't exist. He was talking about those that blend in with the folks that come north to seek a better life and to escape the massive corruption and lawlessness that exists in Mexico and his quotes are 100% correct and easily verified even in Gov statistics, FBI reports, stories in the media etc, unless you watch CNN I guess.  Lo and behold the headlines today and you will see exactly the kind of people he was talking about. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-31...s-let-stay.html http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/20...es-in-24-hours/ Some folks have serious problems with their comprehension skills. Or maybe they are just geared to hear racism, bigotry and hate in anything that would be said. Substantial numbers of murderers and rapists and drug smugglers (Many of which have been deported numerous times or released back into the US even though they have records of multiple and serious criminal offenses) and even Islamic terrorists are coming over the southern border in the virtual free for all that has been created by our current Presidential Admin unilaterally, and again, these facts and reality are easily verified and indisputable. All of this outrage we have been seeing about Trumps speech is nothing more than Political Correctness run amok and you, my guitar shredding friend, are buying right into it. But it's all good man. I love you anyway. Even if you think I am racist as well.
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