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I Want To Try This! Swirl Painting!
ruben_mcn
May 23 2010, 04:52 PM
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Could anybody do a tutorial on the sanding part ??? cause i have a IBanez like this one:

http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/admin/pages...z_rg2550e_m.jpg

And i would like to turn it into this :



Is this something i can do my self ?? What tools will i need ? how can i do it (without ruining my Axe ) ?

ANd is it true that by doing this to my guitar it would improve my sustain ?

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Ivan Milenkovic
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QUOTE (ruben_mcn @ May 23 2010, 05:52 PM) *
Could anybody do a tutorial on the sanding part ??? cause i have a IBanez like this one:

http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/admin/pages...z_rg2550e_m.jpg

And i would like to turn it into this :



Is this something i can do my self ?? What tools will i need ? how can i do it (without ruining my Axe ) ?

ANd is it true that by doing this to my guitar it would improve my sustain ?


Sure, you can do it, just remove all the hardware from the guitar, so you leave the body clean, and then sand it down. Tape all the parts that are not sanded, so you don't leave dust on them. You can use powertools it will save you time, but just be careful how you sand down the paint.

Removing paint is not a way to improve sustain. The sound can indeed become more open, but it's hard to tell how, if and how much the sound will change. Big chances are that the sound won't be that different.

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ruben_mcn
May 26 2010, 01:15 AM
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thanks Ivan.. I´m gonna try to sand an old piece of wood from an table than I will Sand an Jackson Kvx 10 that I am customizing ..

and If i like the results I will maybe do the same to the Ibanez tht i was talking about ...

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thefireball
May 26 2010, 02:02 AM
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that's so cool!! and every swirled guitar - not one the same!!! Going to check some more swirly guitar vids!

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Jun 6 2010, 11:29 PM
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is this project coming along well smile.gif ?

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Praetorian
Jun 9 2010, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE (Frederik @ Jun 6 2010, 06:29 PM) *
is this project coming along well smile.gif ?


I am still collecting parts. I just got the bodies in the mail this week. One rough one, for a first try, then I got a nice Ibanez RG5EX body that I would like to have as a final project!

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Jun 9 2010, 08:47 AM
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Oh, how could I miss this thread! well, I wasn't a member when it started hehe, but this is so cool I'm eager to see the results I'm sure it's gonna be great! I've done this but not with guitar body, only for painting stompboxes. Borax is kinda hard to get here where I live or it's just me that doesn't know where to look. Anyway, some friends of mine have done this even with guitars and the catch is (just with swirling anything) to experiment and find just right 'hardness' of the water (borax ratio) to keep the surface tension of the water in the right spot. If I were you, I would experiment just on a piece of wood and remember to drop just a few drops of paint in the water (it should disperse in a perfect circles). if it drops down you need more borax. work quickly and just dip it and pull up. I never got good results when trying to dip twice or more. just one is required when paint is ready. I used toothpick to make nice patterns once I dropped some paint into the bucket.
Key thou is always the clear coat. I remember that people used some polyurethane clear coat which gives nice and thick finish. I use spray can clear coat for pedals but this is probably not enough for a guitar body. I would also try to bake it afterward by all means. no high temperatures just around 50C is enough. I'm sure you can find articles on this (or you already know all this, if so, then I'm just spamming this thread smile.gif ).

Anyways, good luck and keep us posted!

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Superb video, extraordinary technique ohmy.gif biggrin.gif !!!!

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Praetorian
Jun 9 2010, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (emirb @ Jun 9 2010, 03:47 AM) *
Oh, how could I miss this thread! well, I wasn't a member when it started hehe, but this is so cool I'm eager to see the results I'm sure it's gonna be great! I've done this but not with guitar body, only for painting stompboxes. Borax is kinda hard to get here where I live or it's just me that doesn't know where to look. Anyway, some friends of mine have done this even with guitars and the catch is (just with swirling anything) to experiment and find just right 'hardness' of the water (borax ratio) to keep the surface tension of the water in the right spot. If I were you, I would experiment just on a piece of wood and remember to drop just a few drops of paint in the water (it should disperse in a perfect circles). if it drops down you need more borax. work quickly and just dip it and pull up. I never got good results when trying to dip twice or more. just one is required when paint is ready. I used toothpick to make nice patterns once I dropped some paint into the bucket.
Key thou is always the clear coat. I remember that people used some polyurethane clear coat which gives nice and thick finish. I use spray can clear coat for pedals but this is probably not enough for a guitar body. I would also try to bake it afterward by all means. no high temperatures just around 50C is enough. I'm sure you can find articles on this (or you already know all this, if so, then I'm just spamming this thread smile.gif ).

Anyways, good luck and keep us posted!


Thanks for the tips! I have been reading a lot online and am waiting for the paint to arrive. Once I have everything, I am going to test dip a number of pieces of wood before I actually try a guitar body. The final process will be documented here for the Wiki!

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That's cool, done it with t-shirts but never thought it could be done on a guitar body!

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