Need Serious Songwriting Help Here - S.o.s. Thread:d, French singing contest - me and acoustic.. |
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Mar 11 2009, 12:30 PM
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So I made a biggest fail in my life - I signed up into french singing contest - the former plan was, to go there with my friend, me playing guitar, her singing - I had the whole song ready, it was about clouds and had even a solo written down... Now I found out, I have to od it alone (singing and playing at once) and the song topic is "Pour toi" (For you)
I am desperate, cos I am not good at singing/playing at once (but can do some easy open chords patterns as in Wish you were here by Pink floyd etc..) and I am primarily a electric guitar player:) Well my plan is, to do some sort of SRV/Hendrixish kind of song with easy rythm playing, when I sing and in breaks having some more complicated fills - problem is I am not too fond on this writing this kind of songs. I need ANY help you can provide me.. please dont let me down - there will be whole our class watching and I have just 10 days. I already have a few ideas ATM, but I am at school now so I cant test them.. Any help (chord progressions, fills, good keys to use...) will be appreciated greatly 
This post has been edited by Jakub Luptovec: Mar 11 2009, 12:33 PM -------------------- my youtube account with riffs and ideas: https://www.youtube.com/user/Phoenygzus
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Mar 11 2009, 12:49 PM
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Do some 12 bar blues man. A, D, E and you'll be fine. You can write 100 songs on the topic "For You" if you keep it blues
You can do a slightly different chorus section, like change 1 or 2 chords (maybe go to F# minor) and then go back. Solo is not that important if you have to play and sing at the same time. Good luck
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Mar 11 2009, 12:54 PM
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What exactly is a 12 bar blues? I just know its kind of rythm accompanient in blues, jazz and rock, often in shuffle rythm, long 12 chords with turnaround (dont know any tho) on the last chord, returning to tonic:D But practically I know nothing:D
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Mar 11 2009, 02:28 PM
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personally, for such a short time to do it, i'd write something with 3 chords for the verse, 4 chords for the chorus and a very simple structure
such as... Am, Am, C, G - verse x 8 Em, Em, F, F - Bridge x 2 C, G, Am, F - chorus x 4 just put some finger picking in and a few fills here and there and ur sorted as for lyrics, its very simple for that topic... heres some that im singing along while playing those chords (as an example ofcourse  )and now i cant believe how i couldnt see whats become of me oh whats become of me and how i could have known i wouldnt be all alone oh i cant believe now ive set you free Bridge now that things have changed your the one that kept me sane now our time has past its time i... CHORUS let gooooooo oh im waiting for the change Im staring into darkness and back agaaaaaaaaain i threw myself away discarded from your world for you they were just random lyrics off the top of my head so some of them dont make sense... hope this helped -------------------- Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul Standard w/ Dual EMG 81 Pickups. Size 11 Strings. Ibanez GRG170DX w/ Scallopd frets 17-24 - w/ Dimebucker and APH-1. Tanglewood TW28 STR DLX CE INDIANA Acoustic Guitar NEW: Dean Deceiver w/ EMG 81/EMG 85 Pickups Effects: Pod XT Live AND Pod X3 Live Recording: Cubase SX3 My Bands Myspace Act Of Silence Songs: Fly From The Inside (Cover) So Far Away Down Break The Cycle Never Again (Cover) Crash Wake Me More Acoustic Songs: Chris Kerswell Soundclick Page Check out Munta's Step By Step Songwriting Lesson |
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Mar 11 2009, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Mar 11 2009, 12:54 PM)  What exactly is a 12 bar blues? Lucky for you there are lessons on the subject https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-gu...12-bar-shuffle/ https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-gu...r-blues-rhythm/ -------------------- My bands homepage
All time favourites: B. Streisand - Woman in Love, M. Hopkin - Those were the days, L. Richie - Hello |
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Mar 11 2009, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Mar 11 2009, 11:54 AM) What exactly is a 12 bar blues? I just know its kind of rythm accompanient in blues, jazz and rock, often in shuffle rythm, long 12 chords with turnaround (dont know any tho) on the last chord, returning to tonic:D But practically I know nothing:D This is 12 bar blues just 3 chords-------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Mar 11 2009, 04:02 PM
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good song choice
 blues brothers rock!
-------------------- Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul Standard w/ Dual EMG 81 Pickups. Size 11 Strings. Ibanez GRG170DX w/ Scallopd frets 17-24 - w/ Dimebucker and APH-1. Tanglewood TW28 STR DLX CE INDIANA Acoustic Guitar NEW: Dean Deceiver w/ EMG 81/EMG 85 Pickups Effects: Pod XT Live AND Pod X3 Live Recording: Cubase SX3 My Bands Myspace Act Of Silence Songs: Fly From The Inside (Cover) So Far Away Down Break The Cycle Never Again (Cover) Crash Wake Me More Acoustic Songs: Chris Kerswell Soundclick Page Check out Munta's Step By Step Songwriting Lesson |
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Mar 11 2009, 07:33 PM
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Oh munta, thats really great - May I use this and claim it as mine (the chord pattern for chorus and bridge) at that contest (It has to be mine composition...)? I will maybe transpose it a bit and noodle around with those chords, but generaly, thats awesome idea:)
-------------------- my youtube account with riffs and ideas: https://www.youtube.com/user/Phoenygzus
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Mar 11 2009, 08:03 PM
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There are thousands of blues songs on the same chord progression so you can feel free to put your own lyrics and claim it's 100% yours
Make some kind of chorus with 1 or 2 more chords added and go back to this groove on the verse. Good luck
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Mar 12 2009, 05:58 AM
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haha, u dont have to ask to use a chord progrssion, those ones have been used multiple times by uncountable bands lol
for the style of music, listen to 3 doors down, they use those chord progressions in a few songs... just add your own picking style, add a few licks here and there when ur not singing and you have your very own song.... even add a breakdown if you want... but dont use those lyrics i have wrote, im gonna make something of them lol. but its not hard to write ur own, just start singing random words that you can connect to what your writing about. if its gotta be about "for you" then think what it could be... the one i have wrote there is about leaving a woman because you think she'd have a better life without you. it could be about doing something amazing for someone, or you may even die for someone... theres so many topics. once youve chosen the exact topic your gonna write about and figured out what you want the song to be about, all you have to do is sing along while you play the basic chords with random words that can join with the song, even if they dont fit yet... you can clean them up later and make them make more sense once you have the basics down. hope this helps
-------------------- Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul Standard w/ Dual EMG 81 Pickups. Size 11 Strings. Ibanez GRG170DX w/ Scallopd frets 17-24 - w/ Dimebucker and APH-1. Tanglewood TW28 STR DLX CE INDIANA Acoustic Guitar NEW: Dean Deceiver w/ EMG 81/EMG 85 Pickups Effects: Pod XT Live AND Pod X3 Live Recording: Cubase SX3 My Bands Myspace Act Of Silence Songs: Fly From The Inside (Cover) So Far Away Down Break The Cycle Never Again (Cover) Crash Wake Me More Acoustic Songs: Chris Kerswell Soundclick Page Check out Munta's Step By Step Songwriting Lesson |
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Mar 12 2009, 02:44 PM
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Munta - no worries, ifs FRENCH singing contest, so your lyrics would be of no use anyways and I doubt, it would rhyme when translated:) And that tip about signing random words - since I can barely say few sentences in french, this wont work, I am afraid:D I guess I will take a dictionary and just shoot random words, that are somewhere close to topic and glue them someway:D
-------------------- my youtube account with riffs and ideas: https://www.youtube.com/user/Phoenygzus
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Mar 12 2009, 04:03 PM
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that i cant help u with lol
-------------------- Guitars: Epiphone Les Paul Standard w/ Dual EMG 81 Pickups. Size 11 Strings. Ibanez GRG170DX w/ Scallopd frets 17-24 - w/ Dimebucker and APH-1. Tanglewood TW28 STR DLX CE INDIANA Acoustic Guitar NEW: Dean Deceiver w/ EMG 81/EMG 85 Pickups Effects: Pod XT Live AND Pod X3 Live Recording: Cubase SX3 My Bands Myspace Act Of Silence Songs: Fly From The Inside (Cover) So Far Away Down Break The Cycle Never Again (Cover) Crash Wake Me More Acoustic Songs: Chris Kerswell Soundclick Page Check out Munta's Step By Step Songwriting Lesson |
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