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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 5 2011, 10:56 PM
Alrighty ladies and DJENTlemen 
since there's always been some questions here and there regarding the djent current, I thought I had to start this thread and post as many info in here as possible about this most interesting hybrid 
so.....
What is DJENT?
Djent is a heavy metal subgenre, inspired by the band Meshuggah (and I must add Devin Townsend, as Meshuggah only came with the heavy stuff, but all the melodic side came from Devin) and developed through the internet. The word "djent" is an onomatopoeia for a heavily palm-muted, distorted guitar chord. Typically, the word is used to refer to music that makes use of this sound, to the sound itself, or to the scene that revolves around it.
Who are these DJENTlemen everybody's talking about?
Meshuggah are being thought of as the fathers of djent, and, here are the bands and musicians considered to have instigated the birth of the modern djent scene: Periphery, TesseracT, Vildhjarta, Benea Reach, Chimp Spanner, and the now defunct band Fellsilent. Some progressive metal bands have some similar characteristics and are also sometimes referred to as djent - these include Textures, Veil of Maya, Animals as Leaders, Monuments, After the Burial, The Contortionist, Mnemic, Threat Signal, The Acacia Strain and Meshuggah themselves.
more to come soon 
Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 6 2011, 03:44 AM
Well said It started as a way to describe palm muting heavy chunky syncopated rythms and has somehow morphed in to being a full on description and even used as a Genre term now. Despite many of the originators of the term,( including the guys from periphery who first started saying it way back when to describe pickup tone "do those pickups djent?") insisting it is not a genre. Language evolves around us and takes on it's own meaning over time and despite their best wishes, Djent is in fact widely considered to be it's own Sub Genre of Metal right along with many others like Death, Melodic Death, Symphonic Death, Metal Core, Grind Core, Blast, and now Djent
Posted by: El Fortinero Sep 6 2011, 04:55 AM
mmm what about Fear Factory? i thought they were the ones that iniciates this style (not as we know it today), i mean of course it has mutated a lot since the 80' (?)
what about haunted shores?, i saw the guitarist playing amazing guitar chords, very very weird
still waiting the Periphecy or djent style lesson
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 6 2011, 07:08 AM
It started as a way to describe palm muting heavy chunky syncopated rythms and has somehow morphed in to being a full on description and even used as a Genre term now. Despite many of the originators of the term,( including the guys from periphery who first started saying it way back when to describe pickup tone "do those pickups djent?") insisting it is not a genre. Language evolves around us and takes on it's own meaning over time and despite their best wishes, Djent is in fact widely considered to be it's own Sub Genre of Metal right along with many others like Death, Melodic Death, Symphonic Death, Metal Core, Grind Core, Blast, and now Djent Hey Todd!
you are very right indeed - I modified the post it is indeed a sub-genre of metal, the youngest one I believe what about haunted shores?, i saw the guitarist playing amazing guitar chords, very very weird
still waiting the Periphecy or djent style lesson
It'll come mate
don't worry as for Fear Factory, I think they too had a great influence on the style, but somehow people tend to neglect that....I never understood why either 
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 6 2011, 07:41 AM
To prove Nahuel's words, here's Fear Factory (note that this was happening back in 1995):
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 6 2011, 03:22 PM
Wou, I haven't heard FF in a long time, awesome
Cosmin, how bout some cool djent lesson?
Posted by: Daniel Realpe Sep 6 2011, 03:53 PM
I think death metal is a big influence on this style too.
This song has some djent on it! 
Posted by: Narzsa Sep 6 2011, 03:54 PM
Cosmin, how bout some cool djent lesson?
And some fear factory lessons
cant go wrong there
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 6 2011, 06:27 PM
Great posts Cosmin! I knew all this bands... I also note that they are a natural evolution of previous styles like Death, Trash, Industrial. However I have discovered the word "Djent" some days ago here at the forum.
Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Sep 6 2011, 09:24 PM
What a ?! Lad(ies) genre is skipped !?!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 8 2011, 09:05 AM
I will most definitely make up a Djent lesson! time to put the ol' brainer to work
As I was saying, Devin Townsend had a huge influence over djent bands, in respect to the fact that he brought the melodic feel and the spaciness of the style - when I say spaciness, I mean that djent sounds 'very big' usually and this is given in a big part by the fact that djent bands use layering as a song orchestrating technique.
Layering - technique used in orchestration which adds vertical layers of different instrument tracks, in order to create a huge wall of sound.
This is a song dating from 1998, found on Devin Townsend's album called 'Infinity' - you may hear the djent roots sprouting in here
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 8 2011, 09:30 AM
Sounds very interesting, although the guitar tones need to be more djenty on this one. But very nice point on layering
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 8 2011, 09:33 AM
well, Devin was responsible with the melodic part from the final mix which evolved over the years
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 8 2011, 03:48 PM
That's a great concept! It sounds great in studio albums but it must be difficult to create it live. How do the do Cosmin? Do they play over some tracks? Do the use many musicians live? or they use loop pedals?
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 8 2011, 04:15 PM
It's difficult to create that sound on stage yeah, I think they use some processing power, in combination with good hi gain amps. The sound cannot be that rigid live tho, as the space lets the sound "breathe" and dissipates a bit. My guess is that they try to keep it as tight as it can be
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 8 2011, 04:31 PM
I know for certain that a lot of these folks use tracks on stage creating that wall of sound over which the and itself plays the instruments. I used to do that with my first band - Evo. Not at that level of course, but we used tracks over which we played
that's the recipe usually, or a very elaborate crew that can recreate a lot of sounds live that can also be an option
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 9 2011, 03:58 AM
that's the recipe usually, or a very elaborate crew that can recreate a lot of sounds live that can also be an option yeah, that's a good trick. I use tracks with Cirse live for the electronic arrangements. We use an ipod for it.
Posted by: Nihilist1 Sep 9 2011, 05:23 AM
I know that this is metal, and I love metal more than the next guy; but I think that a melodic band that really helped people understand how to layer their tracks(in modern times) is Circa Survive. I can't think of a track that doesn't have a lot of layers. The track that I think stands out the most is 'House of Leaves'. However, they layer the hell out of every single song. They recreate every effect live, though. It seems that delay really can create a wall of luscious noises to get lost in. They do it all without losing a single ounce of guitar tone too!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 9 2011, 07:39 AM
WOW! Dude! You know Circa Survive!!:D I thought I was the only person listening to those guys!
They are so great!
Posted by: Nihilist1 Sep 9 2011, 08:06 AM
They are so great! I am an hour away from Los Angeles XD. I make it a point to see most of the bands that come through here. I remember when Anthony Green was singing for Saosin. Believe it or not, Beau Burchell(singer and rhythm guitarist) lives down the street from my dad!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 9 2011, 08:11 AM
I also like Saosin how cool is that? Do you know the dude, Beau I mean?
Posted by: Nihilist1 Sep 9 2011, 06:34 PM
No. I would feel like I am bothering him. I am sure he just wants a normal life despite his career. We have waved at each other in passing, but that is all.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 10 2011, 09:43 AM
Well, I thought that since you are neighbors, you would somehow bump into each other and talk from time to time
but, indeed, I don't like nagging people just because they are famous so I understand your point
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 10 2011, 09:28 PM
This band is from Argentina.. they formed in 1994 and this album was realised in 1998... don't you think that they have some Djent sounds? or maybe I'm confused... ?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 10 2011, 11:29 PM
Oh but they do! Actually they are directly influenced by Devin Townsend out of what I can hear
nice work none the less!!
Posted by: MonkeyDAthos Sep 11 2011, 05:21 AM
I love Djent instrumentals, but i can't take most of the vocals :C
Surprise me Cosmim : v
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 11 2011, 07:26 AM
how about this dude?
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 11 2011, 09:09 AM
This is definitely djent sounding.
Djenty polyrhythmic riffing + layering with various synths + scream/growl/emo metal vocals = djent? What do you guys think about this equation?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 11 2011, 11:25 AM
Djenty polyrhythmic riffing + layering with various synths + scream/growl/emo metal vocals = djent? What do you guys think about this equation?
Well it's close enough, but there's more to it
I see it as much more than a mix of elements...it's a certain state of mind, or maybe I like it too much? Who knows
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 11 2011, 12:37 PM
I see it as much more than a mix of elements...it's a certain state of mind, or maybe I like it too much? Who knows You do like it too much, and because you do, it's your duty to explain us
JK, what would be that state of mind, it would be cool to explore different opinions on this one
Posted by: MonkeyDAthos Sep 11 2011, 09:43 PM
how about this dude? Cloudkicker is such i badass name, and yep that's what i love about Djent! Ty for sharing!
Posted by: The Uncreator Sep 12 2011, 01:10 AM
Not to be negative, but this is coming from the person who popularized the term Djent. I always thought it was weird how people think Djent is a genre, and that the Djent defining factor of big chords is almost non existent in most bands labeled 'Djent'.
I mean, I dont understand how people can hear the sound 'djent' from a guitar, but thats just me. I think at best Djent is only describing a sound, not a genre.
And this is what Misha is talking about - those big fat chords
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 12 2011, 05:47 AM
how about this dude? I really like this album! I use to hear it!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 12 2011, 06:48 AM
Not to be negative, but this is coming from the person who popularized the term Djent. I always thought it was weird how people think Djent is a genre, and that the Djent defining factor of big chords is almost non existent in most bands labeled 'Djent'.
I mean, I dont understand how people can hear the sound 'djent' from a guitar, but thats just me. I think at best Djent is only describing a sound, not a genre.
And this is what Misha is talking about - those big fat chords
Ahahahaha
DJENT DJENT DJENT DJENT! Guys, I don't think we should hussule about the name so much just enjoy the music mates! JK, what would be that state of mind, it would be cool to explore different opinions on this one Well, I guess you are right Ivan
well, for me, this type of music allows passage through a lot of feelings with the aid of a fresh sound - for instance, as it's the easiest way to explain, I wrote a 'djenty' song with Aria in which I can picture the following story:A modern man lets himself tangled into everyday life and his selfish ways and forgets to enjoy and cherish the things who matter most: family, nature, heritage and living the moment. He gets killed in an accident and at that point his life comes revolving back in a flash and he sees everything he's done and the wrong ways he'd chosen while being unconsciously racing towards the inevitable fate.
This is just a resume of the story in the way we see it, but the sound elements make it fresh and dynamic - aggressive, mellow, dreamy, tense, sad etc. - and the way in which they are connected, allows us to illustrate these feelings and images, so this is why I see it complex.
hopefully, I was explicit enough, so you may see my point Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 12 2011, 07:42 PM
Wwwwoooowww, that is some nice thinking
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 13 2011, 09:29 AM
Ok, let's move on to some info about djenty tones Here's what I found regarding the way you can obtain such a tone - by using an AXEFX unit in the first video and a Line 6 POD Farm unit in the second:
The POD Farm from Line 6 is a very nice little tool which a friend of mine uses, and I am pretty curious to test these settings myself when I get to put my hands on the POD.
Info on general djenty tones characteristics coming soon
Posted by: TesttubeMammoth Sep 13 2011, 10:54 PM
I can't resist commenting on this one
Cloudkicker are probably my favourite example of the genre, closely followed by chimp spanner. Some of my favourite features are the fusion influenced solos alongside odd polymeters, for instance when a drummer is playing a pattern of 7s on the bass drum and still holding 4s with the hands. Every 6 bars everything seems to round up as the two patterns sync. This lends pieces a unique groove, the guitars often follow the bass drum. Displacement is also a useful concept, when a bar will end maybe a 16th note early so the next can start prematurely giving an off kilter quality to the groove. Then there's modulation where you can appear to change tempo by altering how you group subdivisions.
These techniques (and a few more) allow you to fool your audience into believing they are listening to a certain groove and get comfortable with it before you pull the rug out from underneath them. I love music that does this, that just makes you go what is going on here!
Gavin Harrison from porcupine tree has written an epic book on the subject.
Seriously, Djent is guitarists wonderland. So many new techniques and ways to express yourself. I am not surprised it is taking off so quickly.
My old band toured with Cilice, the then singer is now in textures. I was suitably humbled by the experience and have been trying to learn about these tricks ever since.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 16 2011, 07:54 AM
Cloudkicker are probably my favourite example of the genre, closely followed by chimp spanner. Some of my favourite features are the fusion influenced solos alongside odd polymeters, for instance when a drummer is playing a pattern of 7s on the bass drum and still holding 4s with the hands. Every 6 bars everything seems to round up as the two patterns sync. This lends pieces a unique groove, the guitars often follow the bass drum. Displacement is also a useful concept, when a bar will end maybe a 16th note early so the next can start prematurely giving an off kilter quality to the groove. Then there's modulation where you can appear to change tempo by altering how you group subdivisions.
These techniques (and a few more) allow you to fool your audience into believing they are listening to a certain groove and get comfortable with it before you pull the rug out from underneath them. I love music that does this, that just makes you go what is going on here!
Gavin Harrison from porcupine tree has written an epic book on the subject.
Seriously, Djent is guitarists wonderland. So many new techniques and ways to express yourself. I am not surprised it is taking off so quickly.
My old band toured with Cilice, the then singer is now in textures. I was suitably humbled by the experience and have been trying to learn about these tricks ever since.
Textures is among my favorite bands! And your approach and vision on the genre is very good! Cogratz again on the track you sent me!
Here's another favorite - Tesseract
These dudes are more atmospheric and smooth than the stuff posted until now:
Posted by: TesttubeMammoth Sep 16 2011, 01:43 PM
You're too kind Cosmin
Have another
http://soundcloud.com/testtubemammoth/solient-beanPosted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 16 2011, 03:59 PM
Hey guys, let's analyze one song while we're on the topic!
Frankie asked me to assist him in analyzing the Chimp Spanners (Paul Ortiz) song Bad Code. It's a young fellow musician from UK that does Djent as a solo project, this is one of the instrumentals:
We exchanged some info about it back and fourth, and here's some of the useful hints about the instrumental that can potentially be useful for members wondering about Djent elements:
Ortiz created a djent-style/math metal style progressive composition here that relies on layering for creating fuller composition, and dissonance to create tension. It's fairly complicated piece with lots of additional elements added, but I can give you some guidelines on how to approach this instrumental. In general it's simple.
He is using C# as an anchor point for this song. C# is the 5th note of the F# harmonic minor scale. C# creates a phrygian-dominant mode, and I believe the song is based on this mode, as on the harmonies from F# harmonic minor.
The solo itself relies heavily on C# phrygian dominant, here's the pattern (this is F# harmonic minor, but just keep the C# in focus and you'll get C# phrygian dominant)
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
If you play the song and run through this mode, you will hear the proper in-key match. He doesn't change keys, but uses fixed F# harmonic minor, only changing voicings within the scale.
However, during the song, riffing, clean harmonies, fills and the solo, he relies here and there on chromatic passages, and dissonant intervals in order to create tension. I believe this was very detailed improvisational composition, not sure if he knew what he was doing, but just picked notes that sounded more "strange" and "dissonant". In that sense, he did a very good job of it, it does has that atmosphere, and the voicings are fit together very nicely.
For the soloing there are also lots of jumps from one octave to another, big interval jumps, which create contrast, which is another important thing to consider.
For this song, he used 8-string guitar with standard tuning, and two bass strings added. So the tuning is:
E
B
G
D
A
E
B } two thickes strings
Gb }
What you can do is try to play it on a 7 string with standard tuning.
For this song I played a 6-string guitar with drop C# tuning, like this:
D#
A#
F#
C#
G#
C#
This tuning is suitable for both riffing and soloing for this song, as you can nail the C# powerchord on the lowest bass strings, and C# has the most focus in the song, so it's good to have it for djenty riffing.
Let's try to see what other opinions we can spark on this song. What do you guys think? Or we can perhaps analyze some other compositions. Would like to hear Cosmins opionion on this one too!
Posted by: TesttubeMammoth Sep 16 2011, 08:30 PM
This has been so helpful. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
On to the Harmonic Minor modes when I finish scalloping! (which is going surprisingly well).
Here is a video of my old drummer (and good mate) playing Bad Code, I just remembered he did this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v8rvSz_r2o
He's a talented chap! Enjoy!
Posted by: MonkeyDAthos Sep 16 2011, 08:52 PM
you guys know any djoke ?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 19 2011, 11:26 AM
Yeah ) I just made this one up what's Will Smith's version for a djent song?
'Gettin' DJIGGY with it!'
On to the Harmonic Minor modes when I finish scalloping! (which is going surprisingly well).
Here is a video of my old drummer (and good mate) playing Bad Code, I just remembered he did this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v8rvSz_r2o
He's a talented chap! Enjoy!
Bwahaha
nice take in my opinion, it's very hard to find good drummers, especially here, in Romania!
Posted by: TesttubeMammoth Sep 19 2011, 11:40 AM
) I just made this one up what's Will Smith's version for a djent song?'Gettin' DJIGGY with it!'
Don't give up your day djob
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 19 2011, 11:47 AM
Dj'u mean that for real?
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 19 2011, 08:22 PM
Dju guys are crazy
Posted by: ZX6 Sep 19 2011, 08:31 PM
Djeah !
Posted by: MonkeyDAthos Sep 19 2011, 09:02 PM
in the our last days, our lord Djesus will come saves us all !!
Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 19 2011, 10:50 PM
Not to be negative, but this is coming from the person who popularized the term Djent. I always thought it was weird how people think Djent is a genre, and that the Djent defining factor of big chords is almost non existent in most bands labeled 'Djent'.
I mean, I dont understand how people can hear the sound 'djent' from a guitar, but thats just me. I think at best Djent is only describing a sound, not a genre.
And this is what Misha is talking about - those big fat chords
I actually mentioned this in an earlier post, that despite Misha's best intentions, Djent has become widely used as a descriptive term for a sub Genre of Metal. He didn't mean it that way, but that's language for ya
It grows and evolves on it's own.
Posted by: Nihilist1 Sep 21 2011, 07:05 AM
I think this song was greatly overlooked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb-EQ-UaoOk
I know it isn't true djent, but I like the fact that they are creating the layers with their guitars, rather than needing a cut track.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 21 2011, 07:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb-EQ-UaoOk
I know it isn't true djent, but I like the fact that they are creating the layers with their guitars, rather than needing a cut track.
It sounds pretty Djentish to me
I love the atmosphere
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 21 2011, 07:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb-EQ-UaoOk
I know it isn't true djent, but I like the fact that they are creating the layers with their guitars, rather than needing a cut track.
It sounds great! Great guitar textures and riffing.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 10:02 AM
Here's some of Periphery's Misha Mansoor (AKA Bulb). he explains a lot of interesting djenty things in these videos. I'm not sure he does not know any theory as he states though
I found out he speaks about interesting ways in which he colors a riff although he uses the word 'like' WAY too much
Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 22 2011, 02:02 PM
I found out he speaks about interesting ways in which he colors a riff
although he uses the word 'like' WAY too much MISHA RAWKS! He is just killer. And all by ear and pretty much self taught. His stuff sounds very theory based to the ear
but it's all just sort of done by what sounds good to Misha. Which works well
For a band that is at the "Periphery" ofthe industry and is really quite small in terms of sales/shows/presence, they are having a MASSIVE impact on musicians
and on Heavy Music in general. Shockingly under rated band.
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 22 2011, 08:59 PM
I agree with you Todd, that is what is interesting with djent bands, it's a new direction, and usually younger people are following it. Compared to their youth, musical experience, and amount of gigs they did, I think they are leaving pretty good impact on the modern metal community
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 28 2011, 07:32 AM
Since we all like rigs let's see what a few djent oriented rigs look like:
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 28 2011, 10:29 AM
Young guys, and already making awesome music with awesome gear
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 3 2011, 07:54 AM
Hey guys!
Here's a series of interviews with Mr Devin Townsend, regarding his work flow and all sorts of interesting details which I am sure you will find interesting! He is one of the artists which influenced the djent current so I am certain we can pick up a huge dose of wisdom from him!
Enjoy!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 14 2011, 10:24 AM
Check these guys out! I found them searching for Mayones axes!
Posted by: MonkeyDAthos Oct 14 2011, 01:05 PM
1:39 watch the guy finger :| looks like is gonna break.
Always enjoy Djent instr' thanks for sharing,
Posted by: The Uncreator Oct 15 2011, 02:08 AM
There stupidly good.
Posted by: thefireball Oct 16 2011, 08:06 PM
So awesome, I just subbed these guys!!
Posted by: Nihilist1 Oct 17 2011, 02:46 AM
So I recently listened to a band named Falloch. They aren't really metal, but I feel that they absolutely deserve to be in this thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=JlsCuLRada0
Posted by: Michael AC Oct 17 2011, 04:22 AM
So is it always drop tuned or using 7 to 8 strings for this style of music?
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 17 2011, 07:48 AM
Hey Michael, using 8 strings or 7 strings allows you to go even lower by using a drop tuning so, I guess it depends on each player
for instance, I am using a drop A tuning on an already low tuned baritone (the standard is B E A D F# 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=JlsCuLRada0
They have some ethnic influences in their playing
I like that!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 19 2011, 07:00 AM
Check out Tesseract's studio recording sessions - I think these guys deserve an award for playing like this
This is my favorite track on their EP, but the others are just as breathtaking!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 20 2011, 07:07 AM
Hey guys! If anyone here is into djent and plays the style as well, you can send your tunes to these guys and they can feature them on their FB page! Check it out!
https://www.facebook.com/Djentlemen
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Oct 20 2011, 06:24 PM
Very cool recordings in the studio, and nice song!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 25 2011, 09:27 AM
What's your favorite Djent oriented band?
Posted by: thefireball Oct 25 2011, 04:18 PM
I guess Skillet, Red, Demon Hunter qualify as Djent?
Posted by: Sollesnes Oct 25 2011, 05:15 PM
If you weren´t joking: no
Example of awesome djent:
/thread
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 25 2011, 09:08 PM
If you weren´t joking: no
Example of awesome djent:
/thread
Whoa! This sounds crazy - never heard this sort of stuff before! What's up with these dudes?
Posted by: thefireball Oct 25 2011, 09:15 PM
Well then, Sollesnes, I guess I don't have a favorite Djent band yet. Aria will probably be once I hear some stuff from them.
Posted by: Sollesnes Oct 25 2011, 09:20 PM
Cool. Didn't mean to be condesending in any way or something
@Cosmin, Yeah, this is probably my favourite djent song
Posted by: Sollesnes Oct 25 2011, 10:17 PM
Another awesome song
Not reeeally djent, but a lot of people seem to put them in the djent category
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 25 2011, 10:23 PM
wow Brandon thanks! I'm reading this with the guys and they're saying 'thank youuuu' we just finished the rehearsal and eating a cookie, or two or three, 4 ... we're not a djent band though - I mean, yeah we have strong influences but we re also having songs more oriented towards Red or Skillet sounds, for instance Not reeeally djent, but a lot of people seem to put them in the djent category
That voice kinda freaks me out
but the instrumental is rocking It has djenty stuff in it indeed!
Posted by: thefireball Oct 26 2011, 05:15 AM
It's cool.
wow Brandon thanks! I'm reading this with the guys and they're saying 'thank youuuu' we just finished the rehearsal and eating a cookie, or two or three, 4 ... we're not a djent band though - I mean, yeah we have strong influences but we re also having songs more oriented towards Red or Skillet sounds, for instance That works too. I love those bands.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 31 2011, 12:01 AM
Hey guys! Check out Tesseract's latest video:
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 10 2011, 10:37 AM
And here's someone who decided to go from djent to ..piano
Posted by: Rated Htr Nov 14 2011, 10:40 AM
For all djent lovers, any comments on my new project?
It is still a demo but it gives u an idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_7EZJzLt_4
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 14 2011, 02:47 PM
It is still a demo but it gives u an idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_7EZJzLt_4
Where will I be able to buy it from?
I love it man!
Posted by: thefireball Nov 14 2011, 04:40 PM
Posted by: Rated Htr Nov 14 2011, 05:24 PM
I love it man! You're not even going to wait for the vocals to be added? The band is currently rehearsing, we have some demos at our facebook page but I'll let you know when we have everything ready.
Posted by: Todd Simpson Nov 15 2011, 01:43 AM
That is a great tip COSMIN! It's crucial to get one's music out there and heard. This is yet another great way to share your tunes with folks guys!
Todd
https://www.facebook.com/Djentlemen
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 15 2011, 08:04 AM
You're not even going to wait for the vocals to be added? The band is currently rehearsing, we have some demos at our facebook page but I'll let you know when we have everything ready.
If I liked it at this stage, it has to be good all the way through...although there are cases when vocals can ruin a good song
I trust you guys will know what to do so, let me know when I can buy it
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 15 2011, 10:33 AM
This is not quite djent but, it has many elements anyway, this dude is incredible! Check him out!
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Nov 15 2011, 06:05 PM
Sounds like machine guns Too heavy for me, can't listen to it too much
Posted by: Todd Simpson Nov 15 2011, 06:52 PM
Very cool! Diggin the rythm and syncopation! Very groooove heavy. Is it just an instrumental project or do you plan to have vocals? Maybe some guest vocals would be cool by various folks. Sort of like what Santana did where he makes a bunch of cool tunes then picks out various singers for each one and calls it an album
I love it man! Posted by: Rated Htr Nov 21 2011, 03:56 AM
My bassist showed me this today, can anybody guess why he liked it so much?
And now a little something from my band if you will
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 21 2011, 08:21 AM
And now a little something from my band if you will
WHooaa Aliases sounds Killer, although it reminds me of Protest the Hero, more than the usual djent band!
Man, your band sounds killer as well
love it!
Posted by: Rated Htr Nov 21 2011, 10:13 AM
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. My bassist described them as "Djent on steroids"
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Nov 21 2011, 03:07 PM
Great last two examples, interesting!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 15 2011, 08:36 AM
Hey guys! Look what I found:
Posted by: Daniel Realpe Dec 15 2011, 06:26 PM
Djenty riff by Pantera
Posted by: TesttubeMammoth Dec 15 2011, 07:11 PM
Just found out Mesuggah are playing my home town in April! w0ot. Tickets in post!
Cosmin - loving your clutter project Encore!
Posted by: thefireball Dec 16 2011, 05:19 AM
Cosmin - loving your clutter project
Encore!Lucky you! That's Rated Htr and his band's project btw.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 16 2011, 08:57 AM
Cosmin - loving your clutter project
Encore!Thank you! But...that ain't mine man
Posted by: PeteLucifersAngels Jan 10 2012, 10:19 PM
Hey Guys just remmembered this awesome Danish Djent band (or 2)
Check em out (;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGbtgCO0TD4&feature=bf_next&list=PL842A888F3C603BD0&lf=plpp_play_all&shuffle=562835
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOw0NnZP5A&feature=autoplay&list=PL842A888F3C603BD0&lf=plpp_play_all&playnext=1&shuffle=562835
I think DOD got a pretty Djenty feel xD
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 10 2012, 11:44 PM
just remmembered this awesome Danish Djent band (or 2)Check em out (;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGbtgCO0TD4&feature=bf_next&list=PL842A888F3C603BD0&lf=plpp_play_all&shuffle=562835
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOw0NnZP5A&feature=autoplay&list=PL842A888F3C603BD0&lf=plpp_play_all&playnext=1&shuffle=562835
I think DOD got a pretty Djenty feel xD
Oh yeah! Mnemic are definitely awesome!
Posted by: thefireball Jan 25 2012, 01:02 AM
Amazing vocals and riffage. RE_SPECT!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 25 2012, 08:30 AM
Oh yes! They posted the whole series on youtube
I'm planning to do a similar thing with ARIA for some of our songs.
Posted by: Saddlefall Jan 25 2012, 08:39 PM
Periphery and Tesseract are great, but so is Vildhjarta! Has to one of my favourite djent bands, totally nuts!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 25 2012, 08:41 PM
Hey man! I like Vildhjarta as well, but I'm not too fond of the vocals in their case
anyway, that album cover gives me GOOSEBUMPS
Posted by: Saddlefall Jan 25 2012, 08:42 PM
Yeah, its really trippy!
Posted by: thefireball Jan 30 2012, 04:39 AM
Red Seas Fire guitarist
Be warned: He cusses after he's done playing the song.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 30 2012, 08:29 AM
Be warned: He cusses after he's done playing the song.
Oh man! This sounds incredibly good
Thanks for posting Brandon!
Posted by: thefireball Jan 30 2012, 02:20 PM
Thanks for posting Brandon!Sure thing!
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 30 2012, 03:32 PM
Arrrr, what riffage
Posted by: thefireball Mar 8 2012, 03:57 AM
These guys are a little repetitive in their songs, unfortunately, but they have amazing talent!! DJENT!!!!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 8 2012, 08:13 AM
Sounds good mate!
Posted by: ZakkWylde Mar 9 2012, 10:19 PM
That is not Djent Music.
Just some generic Metal/Screamo/Beatdown/Whatever-Core
Posted by: thefireball Mar 10 2012, 01:02 AM
Just some generic Metal/Screamo/Beatdown/Whatever-Core
okay but have you heard some of their other music? Some of their songs ...it seems like that's all they do. What classifies something as Djent?
Posted by: ZakkWylde Mar 10 2012, 02:46 AM
Djent, in its original meaning, is a heavily digitally processed power chord, and is the name for an elastic, syncopated guitar riff.[4] Djent as a style has been described as featuring heavily distorted, palm-muted guitar chords alongside virtuoso soloing,[2] and is characterized by rhythmic and technical complexity.[7] Another common attribute of the style is computerized sound, as many of its acts, such as Periphery and Textures, started their careers recording at home and self-producing[4] or incorporate electronic music influences, like TesseracT and Animals as Leaders. Furthermore, the use of seven or eight string guitars is common in the genre, which provides the music its characteristic lower-end, heavier feel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djent
Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 10 2012, 04:05 AM
Both work for me Digging your band too! Djent as a Genre seems to be running quickly towards a degree of fungibility simply due to the characteristics being so distintive. I'm a big fan of the style as a whole but I can see it starting to run out of ideas a bit as the form itself is somewhat restrictive. Something similar happened in Death Metal and Melodic Death Metal as the form itself can strangle the bands under it simply do to what is "permitted" in the genres and what isn't.
I hope that new bands (like yours for example) embrace new elements to expand the genre. In doing so they will become genres in themselves. The level of fragmentation is natural and restrictive forms have to fragment to a degree as they are often so resistant to change that any change merits a new name/title/genre.
So I'd say embrace crazy/wacky/forbidden/even uncool elements in your bands music/style! You may be leading the way in a new Genre
Todd
Posted by: The Uncreator Mar 10 2012, 04:54 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djent
Eh, thats a bit over complex
Easiest way to define Djent is syncopated single note rhythms. Thats what people mean when they say Djent almost 100% of the time, although the term actually refers to the heavy metallic palm muted chords played by Meshuggah, and other music like that (Frederik Thordenhal originated the term/ Misha popularized it - see "Aztec Two Step") . Most Djent bands have few if any of those giant metallic chords, ironic really that before a "genre" even starts it almost completely ignores it's roots
Vildjharta have a fair amount of those chords, Periphery some, Tesseract not so much, Animals as Leaders not so much, so its hit and miss with the favor going to miss.
The tone has gotten ridiculous, if you hang around any forums like SevenString I have heard some people just take it to the extreme, I mean like guitar tones with so much crackle and pop to it, it hurts to listen too, even though it has an amazing production.
In reference to the tone, Djent is all in the picking hand, every bit of it comes from there. If you got the right attack, any tone is a djent tone.
Axe-Fx helps though
Posted by: thefireball Mar 10 2012, 05:00 AM
When I say Djent, I mean that dead note you hear, almost completely muted out. Think about if a band only used Djenty chords though. That would be boring. LOL So I mean a more broad sense...what Brett is saying, I guess.
Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 10 2012, 05:47 AM
Zakk! Glad to see you back posting in the forums man!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djent
Posted by: The Uncreator Mar 10 2012, 02:46 PM
Precisely why its not a genre too, such a small minute defining characteristic, not enough to cover the entirety of the music.
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jul 5 2015, 01:59 PM
Didn't want to start another thread, but I've come across a few nice djentish bands lately. Today this:
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