Modular Thinking, A possible way to group lessons? |
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Modular Thinking, A possible way to group lessons? |
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Apr 26 2007, 12:30 AM |
Great idea Tank - it might work as a group activity to figure out how we would order the stuff ... also, I suspect that as you get to the higher levels you might need 2 - 3 different paths - we don't all want to be shredders.
Having said that, every guitarist should at least have an appreciation of as many styles as possible, so maybe I am off base here, and once you have completed module 20 or whatever, that is when you should think about your individual style a lot more. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Apr 26 2007, 12:40 AM
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Excellent idea Tank.
I also think your addition is good too Andrew. |
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Apr 26 2007, 12:27 PM |
Ideas here are just awesome but than again from my point of view - all guitarists should be able to play many styles - not only blues or metal or soft rock or something. So in my opinion the best way is to devide lessons by their difficulty - Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, Advanced Plus and so on....
Because let's take Rock Rythm lessons - they are not only rock lessons - they are also shred lessons because there are lot's of shred runs there. Same goes for Metal lessons - it's not only riffing but also shred techniques included. So in the end we come to Mastering the guitar and being able to play everything you want and not only being a blues guy or total metalhead. It's just my opinion, in the end it's up to Kris to decide how to manage the GMC but i am sure dividing it by difficulty is much better than dividing by styles. Btw. Tank's idea with "badges" is really great! And reading his posts i noticed he shares the same opinion of "difficulty" type of dividing. This post has been edited by Pavel: Apr 26 2007, 12:33 PM -------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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Apr 26 2007, 01:31 PM |
Ideas here are just awesome but than again from my point of view - all guitarists should be able to play many styles - not only blues or metal or soft rock or something. So in my opinion the best way is to devide lessons by their difficulty - Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, Advanced Plus and so on.... Because let's take Rock Rythm lessons - they are not only rock lessons - they are also shred lessons because there are lot's of shred runs there. Same goes for Metal lessons - it's not only riffing but also shred techniques included. So in the end we come to Mastering the guitar and being able to play everything you want and not only being a blues guy or total metalhead. It's just my opinion, in the end it's up to Kris to decide how to manage the GMC but i am sure dividing it by difficulty is much better than dividing by styles. Btw. Tank's idea with "badges" is really great! And reading his posts i noticed he shares the same opinion of "difficulty" type of dividing. Hi Pavel, I certainly agree that a well rounded guitarist should be the master of all styles,and you are an inspiration to us in that regard! I do think there is a little room for maneouvre here. Mastering all of the super advanced techniques doesn't necesarily make you a great guitarist, although it certainly helps a lot ... but if you apply that rule to guitarists we consider to be great, well, Hendrix never sweeped in his life, BB King played mostly 1 scale ... they would be average/intermediate guitarists in this scheme which doesn't seem quite right. Its a question of picking a style and then breadth vs depth. Having said that, I think that a core set of modules should include ALL the styles that we can get material together on (I agree with Kris point about being reactive whilst looking forward to the time when we have enough lessons and instructors to be proactive as Tank said) - these could be the Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced that Pavel mentioned, then maybe a choice of a few "Advanced Plus" level modules that denote depth in a particular style. I also think badges are a great idea, but I wonder how they would get assigned? Are we turning Kris and/or the other examiners into examiners now? Maybe we could post to the uploads board and have a poll on whether or not the recording is to the required standard? Or maybe it should just be done on the honour system. Great thread Tank, I love the idea of a GMC "diploma" being the industry standard for guitar qualifications in a year or two -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Apr 26 2007, 04:42 PM |
I do think there is a little room for maneouvre here. Mastering all of the super advanced techniques doesn't necesarily make you a great guitarist, although it certainly helps a lot ... but if you apply that rule to guitarists we consider to be great, well, Hendrix never sweeped in his life, BB King played mostly 1 scale ... they would be average/intermediate guitarists in this scheme which doesn't seem quite right. I just want to try to point your view to a different angle - don't take is a an offend - just try to imagine this: Hendrix and BB King - yeah ok they did a lot for playing. But they did to playing the same thing Intel Pentium I did for informatics. Does it mean we have to continue using Pentium I and forget about all the Core 2 Duo processors which kick ass?? The world is moving on - styles are developping, player skills are growing. Read this improvised conversation and apply it to guitar in this situation: ... "Hey i can play Solitare on Pentium I!" - "Yeah ok i can hash 40GB of data in BitLord, unpack 20GB of files, render 600MB of video files and play BF2 at the same time using Core 2 Duo!" - "Nah, Core 2 sucks - Pentium I was a legendary processor - it started the whole new age for informatics!" Does it mean we still have to use Pentium I?? --- i think there is only one answer!! Hendrix started a new age in guitar playing - but does it mean we have to stop there??? I am sure when Hendrix was starting playing guitar there was noone on Earth doing things he did - but that didn't stopped him from starting a new age in playing. So why don't you become Hendrix of modern age, ha? -------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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Apr 26 2007, 06:02 PM |
I just want to try to point your view to a different angle - don't take is a an offend - just try to imagine this: Hey, no offense taken Pavel We're both just trying to make suggestions to make GMC better after all, and I actually agree with 95% of what you are saying. Of course you are right about styles moving on that is a good point that we all need to be aware of - I guess the core of my point is that not all guitarists are alike and we should find a way to respect that at the same time as ensuring that anyone who gets a GMC badge is as well rounded and complete a musician as possible. As an idea, it obviously needs work, before we start trying to impliment anything. I can't believe I'm about to write this... Perhaps we need to form a comittee on this? - sounds like a nightmare but you are probably right, although Kris should have the final say of course. Another point is that this should be optional ... people who come here and want to learn some new licks and progress at their own speed might be turned off by an exam driven ethos if it becomes to pervasive on the site - this should definately be available for the people who apreciate the structure and drive of this kind of framework, and I am sure people will be rightly proud of their badges, but at the same time I am sure there will be a number of people who don't want the formality and just want to hang out with like-minded people and learn some stuff at their own informal pace. This post has been edited by Andrew Cockburn: Apr 26 2007, 06:02 PM -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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