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Feb 1 2010, 12:28 PM |
Thanks sted!
The "Tremel-no" seems awesome! A bit easier than a piece of wood I guess The trem btw is an Edge III and the guitar is an Ibanez RG350DX. |
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Feb 1 2010, 01:14 PM |
I agree to what You say here Sted, but imo. using a tremol-no or block the trem takes away some of the beauties with really having a trem. to grab whenever You need it. The combination light gauge/FR is not a good one imo. and therefore I'm using just standard strat trems or Wilkinsons at the moment. I think the trick here is to intonate the bends instead - eg. You must learn the instrument You play and adjust the bends by ear while You are playing....
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Feb 1 2010, 02:59 PM |
Solution: hipshot tremsetter.
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Feb 1 2010, 04:02 PM |
Solution: hipshot tremsetter. Again thanks for all the input in this matter! Since my skills in drilling, soldering and stuff like that is close to zero I think I will have to go with inserting a small piece of wood I also have one of these and initially had the same trouble. The 'problem' is because it's a 'floating trem'. When you bend the string you are pulling the Trem and slackening the other strings, making them sound flat. What you need to do is this... when bending a string and wanting to play another in unison you must bend the other string you want to play to bring it up to correct pitch. It sounds complicated but you'll soon get used to doing it naturally! I'm sure it's mentioned in one of Pavels old lessons somewhere! I'll be sure to check Pavels lessons! Let's say you want a open string to ring while bending, then you're lost |
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Feb 1 2010, 04:14 PM |
well, if you're palm muting anyway, seems you could influence the bridge in retaliation to the slackening. That would work for bends an open strings. As always, it would take practice and quite likely a LOT of that practice.
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Feb 2 2010, 07:21 AM |
Solution: hipshot tremsetter. Yep! ... or this: http://joe.emenaker.com/TremStabilizers/ESP.html This works and I've installed one on my strat and love it Here is a vid that discusses the problems with the floating bridge... -------------------- When I look down at my hands... I see "FINGERS of DOOM"
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Feb 3 2010, 11:28 PM |
It's not that your guitar is a budget guitar, it's the common problem with tremolos. What you can do is block the tremolo and just do tune down movements.
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May 11 2010, 12:17 AM |
Thanks sted! The "Tremel-no" seems awesome! A bit easier than a piece of wood I guess The trem btw is an Edge III and the guitar is an Ibanez RG350DX. I have the exact same guitar and the exact same problem at times. Right now it's fine. I was instructed to put some oil in the pivot points to keep it loose in there. So when you do a dive bomb or a bend, the string won't go flat. And when you pull up on the bar the note won't go sharp. Make sure the trem system is completely horizontal with the body, and the locking nuts are tight (snug - not too tight - found that out the hard way). You'll want to make sure the guitar is in tune before you lock down the nuts though. Once you lock down the nuts, tune up some more with the fine tuner nobs. Of course, you'll want to do some string stretching before you lock down the nuts. And if you need any help with the string change or setup: check out these videos: (This guy helped me a lot!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjQ3p5Nh7-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5X7kAGP4o Hope it all is well right now. I also have one of these and initially had the same trouble. The 'problem' is because it's a 'floating trem'. When you bend the string you are pulling the Trem and slackening the other strings, making them sound flat. What you need to do is this... when bending a string and wanting to play another in unison you must bend the other string you want to play to bring it up to correct pitch. It sounds complicated but you'll soon get used to doing it naturally! I'm sure it's mentioned in one of Pavels old lessons somewhere! oh cool - thanks! This is what I was looking for (unison bends with trems). I figured that's what you had to do. |
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