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Posted by: Tolek Feb 27 2009, 05:02 PM

Hey there! smile.gif
As you told me that you spend a lot of time practising and are motivated, I decided to work with you more deeply. In this topic, I´ll give you additional homework that should make easier for you to reach your goals that you mentioned. You can upload them in your normal uploads topic and we´re going to discuss it in the normal discussion topic. smile.gif

Posted by: Andrew6 Feb 27 2009, 05:09 PM

Cool! Oh I thought I should mention I already know about the chord voicings with barre chords, i.e sliding the positions to make new chords major and minor, I think its called the CAGED chord theory? Like I would know an EMaj shape barre chord with a bass note on the third fret would be a Gmaj etc and how to use the other shapes for different voicings

Posted by: Tolek Feb 27 2009, 05:26 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Feb 27 2009, 05:09 PM) *
Cool! Oh I thought I should mention I already know about the chord voicings with barre chords, i.e sliding the positions to make new chords major and minor, I think its called the CAGED chord theory? Like I would know an EMaj shape barre chord with a bass note on the third fret would be a Gmaj etc and how to use the other shapes for different voicings

CAGED theory... I read the name a few times, but I don´t really know what it is. However, I can conclude that those are the notes from the C Major pentatonic: C D E G A. (or the second position of the A minor Pentatonic). I don´t really know and that´s why I´ll do some small researches. smile.gif
It´s good that you know about those shapes and how to apply them!

Posted by: Andrew6 Feb 28 2009, 12:58 AM

when will my first special assignment be? I feel like 007 tongue.gif cool.gif

Posted by: Tolek Feb 28 2009, 12:49 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Feb 28 2009, 12:58 AM) *
when will my first special assignment be? I feel like 007 tongue.gif cool.gif

I planned to do it yesterday, but I had no time at all. I was preparing my birthday party and then we celebrated in the evening. biggrin.gif

Well, here is your assignment.

You said you want to learn how to sweep. So, I was looking for a combination of this technique and a way to learn the fretboard. At first you should check out http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/sweeping-basics-lesson/ and understand the principe. Then move on to my http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=22493 where I applied those two techniques and modulated one time. While practising, you should take care of what you are playing. Read the commments to each video, this should help you.
After you have understood what you are playing and posted a video which I can comment, we´ll move on to http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/alternate-and-sweep-picking-etude/.

Keep rocking!

Tolek


PS: a little test cool.gif
What scale do we have with 6 #, 1 b, 5 b, 2 #. smile.gif

Posted by: Andrew6 Feb 28 2009, 04:35 PM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Feb 28 2009, 07:49 AM) *
PS: a little test cool.gif
What scale do we have with 6 #, 1 b, 5 b, 2 #. smile.gif


F#, F, Db, D smile.gif .

I will have a look at the sweeping exercise now biggrin.gif, on another note I should have some new vid uploads for you soon

Posted by: Tolek Feb 28 2009, 05:11 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Feb 28 2009, 04:35 PM) *
F#, F, Db, D smile.gif

Excellent. You understood that principle very well. Another test: Are those scales major or minor? Please find the relative scales and indicate the leading-note. smile.gif

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I will have a look at the sweeping exercise now biggrin.gif, on another note I should have some new vid uploads for you soon

Ok, I´m looking forward to them!

Posted by: Andrew6 Feb 28 2009, 06:24 PM

F#, F, Db, D Major

Eb, d, Bb, b are the minors ???


what do you mean by leading note??

Posted by: Tolek Feb 28 2009, 06:47 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Feb 28 2009, 06:24 PM) *
F#, F, Db, D Major

Eb, d, Bb, b are the minors ???

One is wrong. F# to Eb is not a 3rd minor. It´s an augmented 2nd. You always have to use the 3rd minor to find the relative scale. So, the minor relative is D# minor.

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what do you mean by leading note??

The leading note is the 7th degree of a scale. Usually, it is resolved to the root (a 2nd minor up) and so, it has the role of the leader to the root.

Posted by: Tolek Mar 1 2009, 02:49 PM

I just found out what the CAGED thing is. smile.gif You can read about it http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=2944.

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 1 2009, 04:58 PM

Cool, yeah thats kind of what I was talking about. I am going to upload a vid of my intro to sweeping biggrin.gif , its pretty bad..uploads in the upload folder smile.gif

Posted by: Tolek Mar 1 2009, 05:06 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 1 2009, 04:58 PM) *
Cool, yeah thats kind of what I was talking about. I am going to upload a vid of my intro to sweeping biggrin.gif , its pretty bad

Don´t say that! smile.gif There´s no master born. wink.gif Just practise and you´ll reach your goals.
I´m looking forward to your take.

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 1 2009, 06:45 PM

My take is in the uploads folder smile.gif , I will be back in a bit have to go to a funeral sad.gif

Posted by: Tolek Mar 1 2009, 06:50 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 1 2009, 06:45 PM) *
My take is in the uploads folder smile.gif , I will be back in a bit have to go to a funeral sad.gif

I just posted the comment! smile.gif

A funeral? Not good. sad.gif My condolences.

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 2 2009, 08:11 PM

I am pretty much done the group theory assignment, anyway I could get an individual theory assignment tongue.gif If you have time that is biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tolek Mar 2 2009, 08:13 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 2 2009, 08:11 PM) *
I am pretty much done the group theory assignment, anyway I could get an individual theory assignment tongue.gif If you have time that is biggrin.gif

Well, this week is a bit busy, but I´ll try to answer your questions as quick as possible. Just let me know what you want to learn in theory. smile.gif

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 2 2009, 08:15 PM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 2 2009, 03:13 PM) *
Well, this week is a bit busy, but I´ll try to answer your questions as quick as possible. Just let me know what you want to learn in theory. smile.gif

Alright thats fine, should I just move on to the next 5 frets and do those notes? Or should I memorize the patterns of the major scale and just play the C major scale while naming notes?

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Mar 2 2009, 08:17 PM

Speaking of CAGED system here is something you might want to check out guys smile.gif

http://www.cleverjoe.com/articles/guitar_chords_caged.html

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 2 2009, 08:26 PM

Hey its a CAGED lesson from Pedja laugh.gif coool

Posted by: Tolek Mar 2 2009, 08:48 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 2 2009, 08:15 PM) *
Alright thats fine, should I just move on to the next 5 frets and do those notes? Or should I memorize the patterns of the major scale and just play the C major scale while naming notes?

More important than patterns is to know what notes you are playing. Don´t learn patterns without knowing the notes that are in it. A little exercice: Record a video where you play that exercice from the group assignment and say the notes. Another one: Try to find out the position of the notes without accidentals from fret 5 to 8 included. wink.gif

QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Mar 2 2009, 08:17 PM) *
Speaking of CAGED system here is something you might want to check out guys smile.gif

http://www.cleverjoe.com/articles/guitar_chords_caged.html

Thanks, Pedja. I´ll have a look at it.

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 3 2009, 08:04 PM

Ive been working on the sweeping and its going well, But the more I play the more I think maybe I should focus on composing and improvising as I am weak on both fronts, not so much creativity but getting what I hear in my head to the fretboard... I am not sure where to start working on this.. Also in the uploads folder there is an updated version of marcus's neoclassic. Talk to ya later!

Posted by: Tolek Mar 3 2009, 08:12 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 3 2009, 08:04 PM) *
Ive been working on the sweeping and its going well, But the more I play the more I think maybe I should focus on composing and improvising as I am weak on both fronts, not so much creativity but getting what I hear in my head to the fretboard... I am not sure where to start working on this.. Also in the uploads folder there is an updated version of marcus's neoclassic. Talk to ya later!

Great, I´ve just commented your take: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=25077&view=findpost&p=348240.

I just got an idea for a homework. Invent a little melody in A minor (no chords, only melody and at least 10 bars). Try to use sequencing,... . Then we´ll have a closer look at composing. wink.gif

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 3 2009, 08:14 PM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 3 2009, 03:12 PM) *
Great, I´ve just commented your take: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=25077&view=findpost&p=348240.

I just got an idea for a homework. Invent a little melody in A minor (no chords, only melody and at least 10 bars). Try to use sequencing,... . Then we´ll have a closer look at composing. wink.gif

OK but one question... what is sequencing :S ?

Posted by: Tolek Mar 3 2009, 08:19 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 3 2009, 08:14 PM) *
OK but one question... what is sequencing :S ?

Sequencing is moving a pattern one step higher or lower. When you have the pattern in A minor "A B C B", you move it for example one step down to "G A B A" and then to "F G A G". That is sequencing. smile.gif You don´t have to use it, but I find it is a good tool for improvising and composing.

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 3 2009, 08:20 PM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 3 2009, 03:19 PM) *
Sequencing is moving a pattern one step higher or lower. When you have the pattern in A minor "A B C B", you move it for example one step down to "G A B A" and then to "F G A G". That is sequencing. smile.gif You don´t have to use it, but I find it is a good tool for improvising and composing.

Okay I will keep that in mind, do you want this in guitar pro format or video, audio?

Posted by: Tolek Mar 3 2009, 08:42 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 3 2009, 08:20 PM) *
Okay I will keep that in mind, do you want this in guitar pro format or video, audio?

You can send it as a .gp file and make sure to be able to play yourself! tongue.gif laugh.gif

Here are two more lessons about bends that you can check out:


Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 3 2009, 08:54 PM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 3 2009, 03:42 PM) *
You can send it as a .gp file and make sure to be able to play yourself! tongue.gif laugh.gif

Here are two more lessons about bends that you can check out:

  • http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/e-minor-bending-workout-full-half/
  • http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/take-control-of-your-bends/


here is a very primitive gp thing, I really cant get it to sound how I want as I have limited knowledge of rhythm notation and of guitar pro in general but this is kind of the idea

Posted by: Tolek Mar 3 2009, 09:33 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 3 2009, 08:54 PM) *
here is a very primitive gp thing, I really cant get it to sound how I want as I have limited knowledge of rhythm notation and of guitar pro in general but this is kind of the idea

I didn´t know about your rhyhtm knowledge issue... We´ll develop that, too. What concerns the melody, your are not in A minor. For example, you use in bar N°2 a A# which isn´t not in A min. Could you redo this exercice? Before please show me what notes are in A min. smile.gif

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 3 2009, 09:45 PM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 3 2009, 04:33 PM) *
I didn´t know about your rhyhtm knowledge issue... We´ll develop that, too. What concerns the melody, your are not in A minor. For example, you use in bar N°2 a A# which isn´t not in A min. Could you redo this exercice? Before please show me what notes are in A min. smile.gif

Really I must have put that in there by accident, ABCDEFG lol, My mistake

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 3 2009, 04:39 PM) *
Really I must have put that in there by accident, ABCDEFG lol, My mistake

There is the updated

Posted by: Tolek Mar 3 2009, 10:53 PM

QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 3 2009, 09:45 PM) *
Really I must have put that in there by accident, ABCDEFG lol, My mistake


There is the updated

Ok, much better. smile.gif We´ll have a look at this later. wink.gif

Posted by: Tolek Mar 8 2009, 09:16 PM

I´m back with a bit of time. So, you surely know chords. Now, write to every note a chord in another track in the .gp file. I made the beginning for you, so that you have an idea of what I´m speaking:
 AminNotThatAwful_1.gp5 ( 2.39K ) : 118


Cheers! smile.gif

Posted by: Andrew6 Mar 9 2009, 12:34 AM

with chords

Posted by: Tolek Mar 9 2009, 09:27 PM

The first part is good, but then the problems begin. You applied Maj7 chords which isn´t bad at all, but in this case, they don´t fit well with the melody. Could you redo the exercice and use just simply triads? And also, try to use other chords: you took the melody note as root note and made a chord out of it. You can also intrepret the melody note as the 3rd or 5th of the chord.
You also mentioned that you had problems with the notation of rhythms. You can read the paragraph about rhyhtms in http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=4363 by Andrew. smile.gif

Let me know if there are some problems with understanding or whatever.

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