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Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 04:53 AM

Hello guys,

I would like to try a new kind of collaboration

I want us to compose, record, and produce/mix a whole song – from scratch! I’m talking drums, bass, lyrics & vocals, maybe strings, choirs, etc. etc.... and of course Guitar!

I need 5 – 10 people who are into rock (hard and rythmic rock)

If you don’t want to play yourself you can still contribute with your ideas, then I (or someone else) can play the riffs in your place. Just send Tabs, GuitarPro files, sheet music, mp3 files, videos, or anything you can think of to let us know about your riffs and/or ideas.

To maintain the same high quality sound I want all of us to use the same PODxt preset.
 Collab.l6t ( 1.75K ) : 863

For those of you who haven’t got a PODxt but still want your playing in the song, I got this crazy idea that might actually work: Send me a .mp3 file with your “clean” guitar (just plug your guitar direct into the soundcard, and record. without any amp). Then I can run that file through my POD and we should have the same sound.

I’ve made this intro to get us started, and to give you an idea of what type of feel/attitude I want in this song. Take a listen to it, to see if you’re interested in participating.

 collab_intro.mp3 ( 850.09K ) : 1265

We need 5 – 10 people who will put their soul into this project, but of course anyone at GMC are welcome to contribute with ideas and constructive criticism.

__________________________________________________

Line up:

* jeff
* Nick325
* ezravdb
* Kurt
* GroovinMastiff + GroovinMastiff's brother (on drums)
* leedbreak
* JVM
* steve25
* DeepRoots
* ballistic31
* Kristofer Dahl
* Owen
* Otto
* Iluha
* Pentatonic Gathering


__________________________________________________

Here's what we've got so far:

 Are_You_Ready.mp3 ( 10.62MB ) : 1849

Posted by: jeff Aug 23 2007, 05:01 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 22 2007, 10:53 PM)

Hello guys,

I would like to try a new kind of collaboration

I want us to compose, record, and produce/mix a whole song – from scratch! I'm talking drums, bass, lyrics & vocals, maybe strings, choirs, etc. etc.... and of course Guitar!

I need 5 – 10 people who are into rock (hard and rythmic rock)

If you don't want to play yourself you can still contribute with your ideas, then I (or someone else) can play the riffs in your place. Just send Tabs, GuitarPro files, sheet music, mp3 files, videos, or anything you can think of to let us know about your riffs and/or ideas.

To maintain the same high quality sound I want all of us to use the same PODxt preset. For those of you who haven't got a PODxt but still want your playing in the song, I got this crazy idea that might actually work: Send me a .mp3 file with your "clean" guitar (just plug your guitar direct into the soundcard, and record. without any amp). Then I can run that file through my POD and we should have the same sound.

I've made this intro to get us started, and to give you an idea of what type of feel/attitude I want in this song. Take a listen to it, to see if you're interested in participating.

 collab_intro.mp3 ( 850.09K ) : 1265

We need 5 – 10 people who will put their soul into this project, but of course anyone at GMC are welcome to contribute with ideas and constructive criticism.


-Marcus

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 23 2007, 05:06 AM

k im in marcus

Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 05:08 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Aug 23 2007, 06:01 AM)

I feel like a collaboration hog but I've got to get in on this one. I might even beat MickeM to the draw! . I've got a PODxt and I'm ready to go Marcus!

Hey Kris, how about you?? (do you smell a challange?)

Posted by: shredmandan Aug 23 2007, 05:09 AM

So you have to be able to have a soundcard or pod xe ? to get your riffs on the track?Well all i have is a mp3 player to record and a amp

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 23 2007, 05:12 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Aug 23 2007, 12:01 AM)

I feel like a collaboration hog but I've got to get in on this one. I might even beat MickeM to the draw! . I've got a PODxt and I'm ready to go Marcus!

Hey Kris, how about you?? (do you smell a challange?)

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 23 2007, 05:16 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Aug 23 2007, 06:01 AM)

I feel like a collaboration hog but I've got to get in on this one. I might even beat MickeM to the draw! . I've got a PODxt and I'm ready to go Marcus!

Hey Kris, how about you?? (do you smell a challange?)

Posted by: GroovinMastiff Aug 23 2007, 05:19 AM

Hey Marcus,
This is a great idea! My brother would like to know if he can contribute drums to the song, he is a pretty good drummer who got accepted to Berklee and he would like to be a part of this.
He wants to know when you need the drum track by, the tempo you're looking for etc.
When he actually gets something recorded, I'll post it up here for everyone to hear.

I would like to contribute guitar as well, but my shredding skills aren't up to snuff yet so I'm not sure whether or not I will come up with anything interesting. I'll start working on a few ideas tonight, and if I find that I come up with something that sounds decent, I'll post it up here for sure.

Peace

Posted by: exorcyze Aug 23 2007, 05:21 AM

Standard tuning or Dropped-D ?
Tempo ?
Target Key for the primary theme ?

Do you have even a quick n dirty tab for what you have on that intro idea to base other riffs off the same progressive theme ?

Oh, and way cool idea! =D

Posted by: MickeM Aug 23 2007, 05:40 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Aug 23 2007, 06:01 AM)

I might even beat MickeM to the draw!

Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 05:46 AM

QUOTE (shredmandan @ Aug 23 2007, 06:09 AM)

So you have to be able to have a soundcard or pod xe ? to get your riffs on the track?Well all i have is a mp3 player to record and a amp

QUOTE (GroovinMastiff @ Aug 23 2007, 06:19 AM)

Hey Marcus,
This is a great idea! My brother would like to know if he can contribute drums to the song, he is a pretty good drummer who got accepted to Berklee and he would like to be a part of this.
He wants to know when you need the drum track by, the tempo you're looking for etc.
When he actually gets something recorded, I'll post it up here for everyone to hear.

I would like to contribute guitar as well, but my shredding skills aren't up to snuff yet so I'm not sure whether or not I will come up with anything interesting. I'll start working on a few ideas tonight, and if I find that I come up with something that sounds decent, I'll post it up here for sure.

Peace

Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 05:58 AM

QUOTE (exorcyze @ Aug 23 2007, 06:21 AM)

Posted by: leedbreak Aug 23 2007, 06:03 AM

I have a podXT can I come out and play?

Posted by: JVM Aug 23 2007, 06:10 AM

I'd like to do something, what key is it in?

Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 06:16 AM

QUOTE (leedbreak @ Aug 23 2007, 07:03 AM)

Posted by: exorcyze Aug 23 2007, 06:56 AM

I'm not sure my lyrics or vocal-style would be a great fit! XD

Did you have any thoughts for general composition ( IE like standard AABACB or whatever ) to give an idea of how many guitar / bass slots you may want to fill ?

Also, know of any free VST plugins to transform guitar stuff to bass sound ?

Posted by: DeepRoots Aug 23 2007, 07:17 AM

Hey Marcus are you still accepting? My recording equipment needs some money thrown at it at the moment but I've tabbed down a variation riff of your intro as a .gp5 if your ready to start accepting...(i'll obviously need either yourself or someone else to play it for me)
Anyhow its a sliding octave riff that i thought would fit just after the intro.
Not all of us are master composers yet so i thought i might as well take a crack at the simpler stuff..
Should i post it now or are you still waiting?

DeepRoots

Posted by: JVM Aug 23 2007, 07:31 AM

Yeah, if I do this I'm going to need to record it for you on my camera which probably will not have great sound quality, so I'll tab it for you and record an example so that you know how it ought to sound. Then you'll have to mix it in for me with your own re recording

Posted by: leedbreak Aug 23 2007, 01:47 PM

Hey Marcus,

Could you post just the drum track, I thing it would help me get a grip on things, I played around some tonight to get the following but it would not be the right tempo, just some ideas I tossed around,,, it is late and I am not thinking straight, better go to bed.


 just_playin_around.mp3 ( 516.23K ) : 826

Posted by: blindwillie Aug 23 2007, 03:47 PM

Haha! I love your "YOU READY!?" sample
I will join these collabs later on, I don't feel ready for this yet.

Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 04:01 PM

QUOTE (exorcyze @ Aug 23 2007, 07:56 AM)

QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Aug 23 2007, 08:17 AM)

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 23 2007, 04:19 PM

Hehe the intro is fantastic - reminds me a lot of IA!

What is your deadline on this Marcus?

Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 04:24 PM

QUOTE (leedbreak @ Aug 23 2007, 02:47 PM)

Hey Marcus,

Could you post just the drum track, I thing it would help me get a grip on things, I played around some tonight to get the following but it would not be the right tempo, just some ideas I tossed around,,, it is late and I am not thinking straight, better go to bed.
 just_playin_around.mp3 ( 516.23K ) : 826

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 23 2007, 04:38 PM

welll sence im in lets make a record mode know im starting to write alot for my new cd ...I have a few ideas....I will upload somthing hmmm guessing sort of pantara bassed......looks like thats the feel its heading in......and you can see if it will work for you marcus.......

Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 05:34 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Aug 23 2007, 05:38 PM)

Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 06:38 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Aug 23 2007, 05:19 PM)

Hehe the intro is fantastic - reminds me a lot of IA!

What is your deadline on this Marcus?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 23 2007, 07:13 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 23 2007, 07:38 PM)

Great to hear you like it, Kris! I haven't set a deadline yet, but I'm sure I won't take long to get this finished with this great team I got!

Do I need to set a deadline date?
-Marcus

Posted by: lavendell Aug 23 2007, 07:39 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Aug 23 2007, 08:13 PM)

Posted by: Robin Aug 23 2007, 08:03 PM

GAH! I'm always too late for everything! Never gonna go to bed again. Just gonna browse this forum

Posted by: DeepRoots Aug 23 2007, 09:12 PM

well here's my little octave riff- short but sweet

[attachment=1420:attachment]

I guess it'd sound alright over the original riff (when repeated or whatever)

Posted by: Iluha Aug 23 2007, 10:16 PM

Man I can never get in these collabs, they closed too fast

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 23 2007, 11:20 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 23 2007, 08:39 PM)

Also, we need a singer... and we've heard you sing What if we finish the song but leave the vocals out? Then It shouldn't take more than half an hour or so for you to record it... if you're interested in singing, that is?
-Marcus

Posted by: Owen Aug 24 2007, 01:28 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 23 2007, 06:16 AM)

Of course leedbreak! Welcome!
Download the PODxt preset and rock away!! I've attached it to the first post.

So far, the line up looks like this:

* jeff
* Nick325
* ezravdb
* Kurt
* GroovinMastiff
* GroovinMastiff's brother (on drums)
* leedbreak
* JVM
* exorcyze
* DeepRoots

Anyone of you who can write lyrics... and maybe even sing?
-Marcus

Posted by: GroovinMastiff Aug 24 2007, 03:09 AM

Hey everyone,
I tossed around a few ideas yesterday, and I should have something posted within the next couple of days. It's just a matter of working the riffs I hear in my head up to speed on my guitar.
From the intro, I'm guessing the song is going to be in D minor? Please correct me if I'm wrong so that I don't come up with horrible sounding, out of key ideas

Peace

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 24 2007, 07:03 PM

 the_marcus_plan.mp3 ( 1.63MB ) : 483
[quote name='lavendell' date='Aug 23 2007, 11:34 AM' post='55948']
Great ballistic31! You're in!
[/quote

well i threw this together.....just to see if it is going in the right direction......after all its just an i dea and not all ideas are good ones lol.........but enjoy at anyrate........dont mind the crackel its 5.00 am and im a lil sleepy i dont get out of work till 2.00 am lol

Posted by: lavendell Aug 25 2007, 06:32 AM

QUOTE (Owen @ Aug 24 2007, 02:28 AM)

I could give the lyrics a crack... maybe the singing too.

I'd love to try that part of it, even if I'm nowhere near as good as Luciana.

I'll refrain from doing any guitar as I dont have a Pod.

Posted by: lavendell Aug 25 2007, 06:43 AM

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 25 2007, 07:07 AM

WOW!!

Posted by: Iluha Aug 25 2007, 07:20 AM

Sounds great so far, but bring me that solo!!

Posted by: lavendell Aug 25 2007, 07:35 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 25 2007, 08:20 AM)

Sounds great so far, but bring me that solo!!

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 25 2007, 02:29 PM

very cool and i am honored that you liked the riffs i put together....I tried to mix it up a bit to give it a bit more flexability for use.......but now at least the road has started to be paved...very cool...I have a idea working for a cool break down into a acoustic part........that would be bice for a bass player to walk all over.could also be a sort of bass player with a solo duet thingy........that would be tasty......and break right out into a power corus. to many ideas....i need a coffee....

Posted by: lavendell Aug 25 2007, 05:02 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Aug 25 2007, 03:29 PM)

very cool and i am honored that you liked the riffs i put together....I tried to mix it up a bit to give it a bit more flexability for use.......but now at least the road has started to be paved...very cool...I have a idea working for a cool break down into a acoustic part........that would be bice for a bass player to walk all over.could also be a sort of bass player with a solo duet thingy........that would be tasty......and break right out into a power corus. to many ideas....i need a coffee....

Posted by: Otto Aug 25 2007, 06:30 PM

Cool stuff!

If needed I would love to put some bass on this song, or I mean I would love to try

Posted by: lavendell Aug 25 2007, 06:39 PM

QUOTE (Otto @ Aug 25 2007, 07:30 PM)

Cool stuff!

If needed I would love to put some bass on this song, or I mean I would love to try

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 25 2007, 06:50 PM

 acoustic_break_down__idea.mp3 ( 3.05MB ) : 358
welll cool a bass player........that should get things going good as well...........ok well I love to record an write so here is that acoustic break down thingy........I also threw in a new guitar riff your way as well. it might come in handy somewhere along the way.......I kept the drums pretty plain and simple.....on this didnt add any flare so it has a lil more raw bite to it........and took the reverb out of the guitar........the acoustic guitar needs new string and a batery so it redcorded a lil flat enjoy..........this is definatly alot of fun

Posted by: lavendell Aug 25 2007, 07:05 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Aug 25 2007, 07:50 PM)

 acoustic_break_down__idea.mp3 ( 3.05MB ) : 358
welll cool a bass player........that should get things going good as well...........ok well I love to record an write so here is that acoustic break down thingy........I also threw in a new guitar riff your way as well. it might come in handy somewhere along the way.......I kept the drums pretty plain and simple.....on this didnt add any flare so it has a lil more raw bite to it........and took the reverb out of the guitar........the acoustic guitar needs new string and a batery so it redcorded a lil flat enjoy..........this is definatly alot of fun

Posted by: JVM Aug 25 2007, 08:59 PM

I have a nice sounding lead bit going in my head over ballistic's first riff, lemme see if I can get that down. It won't sound all that great clean since I don't have a pod, but run it through yours and see if this idea works

Posted by: lavendell Aug 25 2007, 10:40 PM

QUOTE (JVM @ Aug 25 2007, 09:59 PM)

I have a nice sounding lead bit going in my head over ballistic's first riff, lemme see if I can get that down. It won't sound all that great clean since I don't have a pod, but run it through yours and see if this idea works

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Aug 25 2007, 07:50 PM)

 acoustic_break_down__idea.mp3 ( 3.05MB ) : 358
welll cool a bass player........that should get things going good as well...........ok well I love to record an write so here is that acoustic break down thingy........I also threw in a new guitar riff your way as well. it might come in handy somewhere along the way.......I kept the drums pretty plain and simple.....on this didnt add any flare so it has a lil more raw bite to it........and took the reverb out of the guitar........the acoustic guitar needs new string and a batery so it redcorded a lil flat enjoy..........this is definatly alot of fun

Posted by: Iluha Aug 26 2007, 12:26 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 25 2007, 11:40 PM)

Awesome JVM. Looking forward to hear it!
-Marcus
I've added your latest riff now (not yet the acoustic part though)!

I was thinking the verse could start at 00:28 min, and the chorus at 00:42 min. So we need a melody for the vocals here. Who's got some ideas?

 collab_v3.mp3 ( 2.6MB ) : 303

-Marcus

Posted by: Iluha Aug 26 2007, 12:40 AM

Ok so here it is, in midi form.. if someone can then redo this on a guitar because alot of people to have problem opening my guitar pro files , if I get hold of a mic today I'll do it.

 idea.ZIP ( 624bytes ) : 225

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 26 2007, 02:24 AM

very cool thats the exact idea i had going on with it as well i just didnt break the drums apart......thanks for the compliment as well.........but in all honesty ........you rock..........your solos are just mind blowing to say the least.......and one day i will have your great feel for them.....iIm going to check out the lyrics that where posted......cause im so into this ists not funny................

Posted by: lavendell Aug 26 2007, 03:15 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 26 2007, 01:40 AM)

Ok so here it is, in midi form.. if someone can then redo this on a guitar because alot of people to have problem opening my guitar pro files , if I get hold of a mic today I'll do it.

Posted by: Iluha Aug 26 2007, 03:30 AM

Thanks, means alot coming from you ...

But the timing came a bit off in the mp3, maybe play with the tempo of the midi until it's right, or just record it with a guitar!

Hmm never mind, after a few times listening I see that it's actually good! I was just planning it to sound a bit diffrent heheh, need to get a hold of a mic to show you what I mean.

Posted by: lavendell Aug 26 2007, 03:46 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 26 2007, 04:30 AM)

Thanks, means alot coming from you ...

But the timing came a bit off in the mp3, maybe play with the tempo of the midi until it's right, or just record it with a guitar!

Hmm never mind, after a few times listening I see that it's actually good! I was just planning it to sound a bit diffrent heheh, need to get a hold of a mic to show you what I mean.

Posted by: Iluha Aug 26 2007, 04:09 AM

I think that if that was lead guitar then yeah it sounds perfect, but I think that for singing the original is better got more rockish feel to it

Posted by: shredmandan Aug 26 2007, 04:10 AM

Looks like you all are doing a great job guys.

Posted by: lavendell Aug 26 2007, 04:31 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 26 2007, 05:09 AM)

I think that if that was lead guitar then yeah it sounds perfect, but I think that for singing the original is better got more rockish feel to it

Posted by: GroovinMastiff Aug 26 2007, 04:34 AM

Hey Marcus,
I know I said I'll have something posted by today, but I just don't want to post anything until I'm absolutely sure that I'm satisfied with it. That said, I'm sorry I'm a little late in posting something, but I'll have something by Sunday night at the latest, I'm going to work on this song all day today, so I should get something that I feel is decent

My brother is actually home right now, are you free to chat with him about the drum section in the GMC chat room?

Another thing I wanted to ask is that since I don't have a POD, you want just a dry guitar sound recorded and then you'll process it, right? It won't sound great since I just use the Garage Band software that came with my Mac, but hopefully it can by processed to sound alright.

Again, sorry for the delay, talk to you soon

Posted by: exorcyze Aug 26 2007, 05:14 AM

I've been very busy with work ( working right now actually ) so my time has been limited. I'll take a look at the current state of things in detail tonight and see what I can figure out.

I like what's there so far and I think that it sounds fantastic. I'd like to understand the sections that are there, and think about the overall plan and direction of the song so I'm not just throwing another riff at it or trying to arrange something completely 180 from what people were thinking.

Was there a specific function you'd like me to fill ? I have lots of experience playing guitar, drums, bass, singing, and arranging - so I'm pretty open though I may be rusty at some of the things ( and things like my bass are ... subpar for doing good recording ). I'm not sure what roles everyone has in this right now - maybe a little list would be helpful. =)

Posted by: lavendell Aug 26 2007, 06:00 AM

QUOTE (exorcyze @ Aug 26 2007, 06:14 AM)

Posted by: benhowell Aug 26 2007, 06:11 AM

That sounds great!

Love Kris's 'You ready' bit-pure class!

-Ben

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 26 2007, 11:21 AM

 vocal_idea.mp3 ( 1.58MB ) : 381
Well i came up with lyrics as an i dea for that awsome melody.......lol to get the song though was quite a challage i dragged out the old 4 track........hooked it up to the board and recorded it that way then re recorded it to ableton live........So now its got a bit of tape saturation in there lol......My girlfriend says im a good singer with a few pitch problems to work out.........I on the other hand prefer back up vocals...cause i need alot of work lol.......................but enjoy at anyrate...........and once agin its just a idea and it felt pretty good singing it

Posted by: Iluha Aug 26 2007, 07:18 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Aug 26 2007, 12:21 PM)

 vocal_idea.mp3 ( 1.58MB ) : 381
Well i came up with lyrics as an i dea for that awsome melody.......lol to get the song though was quite a challage i dragged out the old 4 track........hooked it up to the board and recorded it that way then re recorded it to ableton live........So now its got a bit of tape saturation in there lol......My girlfriend says im a good singer with a few pitch problems to work out.........I on the other hand prefer back up vocals...cause i need alot of work lol.......................but enjoy at anyrate...........and once agin its just a idea and it felt pretty good singing it

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 26 2007, 08:56 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Aug 26 2007, 06:21 AM)

 vocal_idea.mp3 ( 1.58MB ) : 381
Well i came up with lyrics as an i dea for that awsome melody.......lol to get the song though was quite a challage i dragged out the old 4 track........hooked it up to the board and recorded it that way then re recorded it to ableton live........So now its got a bit of tape saturation in there lol......My girlfriend says im a good singer with a few pitch problems to work out.........I on the other hand prefer back up vocals...cause i need alot of work lol.......................but enjoy at anyrate...........and once agin its just a idea and it felt pretty good singing it

Posted by: Owen Aug 26 2007, 10:16 PM

I had a crack at a vocal line:

[attachment=1517:attachment]

Posted by: Iluha Aug 26 2007, 10:36 PM

QUOTE (Owen @ Aug 26 2007, 11:16 PM)

I had a crack at a vocal line:

[attachment=1517:attachment]

Posted by: Owen Aug 26 2007, 10:48 PM

Yeah, I was struggling to get the middle lines of the verse into the rythm space allocated, thats why the first and the last bits appear to be right but the middle sections a bit shakey, I'ma working on it.

Edit: I'm also pretty rubbish at mixing, so it's just straight down the middle, which perhaps isnt the best place to position it.

Posted by: lavendell Aug 26 2007, 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Owen @ Aug 26 2007, 11:48 PM)

Yeah, I was struggling to get the middle lines of the verse into the rythm space allocated, thats why the first and the last bits appear to be right but the middle sections a bit shakey, I'ma working on it.

Edit: I'm also pretty rubbish at mixing, so it's just straight down the middle, which perhaps isnt the best place to position it.

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 26 2007, 08:18 PM)

I think you did an excellent job!!, I admit that when I thought of that melody I was thinking more of bass vocals in the style of Zakk Wylde, but after hearing you that works awesome as well

Posted by: Owen Aug 26 2007, 11:24 PM

Posted by: Iluha Aug 26 2007, 11:51 PM

Here's my idea of how a verse would go, atleast the first verse, the idea here is less words.

Here's some example random lyrics to sing along the melody:

I, don't, Know, what, to, say, or, do

I, feel, so, damn, hollow, and, I don't know, what to sayyy.

It's a very simple Idea so if you like it feel free to expand it!

 idea2.ZIP ( 604bytes ) : 157

Posted by: jeff Aug 27 2007, 12:13 AM

I wasn't sure if this was going to be a GMC related song or not - lyrically speaking. Based on the lyrics we have so far, it looks like it is not. Is that right?

-j

Posted by: lavendell Aug 27 2007, 12:46 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 27 2007, 12:51 AM)

Posted by: Owen Aug 27 2007, 12:51 AM

Ohhhh itsss guuuitaaar massterrclasss
Jooin or we'lll geet slammer too woop your ass
Only 48 dollar for six lonng moonth
Comme and join your ssuure to havee funnnN!

Cheesey!

Posted by: Iluha Aug 27 2007, 12:51 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 27 2007, 01:46 AM)

Iluha, one word - genius!

Keeping the melody that simple creates a very interesting groove to the rythm.
 collab_v5.mp3 ( 2.59MB ) : 293


Lyric-wise I think what we've already got here looks good, but I also think It would be fun to make it GMC related. I say we take a vote on this.

1, GMC related
2, stick to what we've got
3, change to something else
-Marcus

Posted by: Slammer Aug 27 2007, 12:56 AM

QUOTE (Owen @ Aug 26 2007, 07:51 PM)

Ohhhh itsss guuuitaaar massterrclasss
Jooin or we'lll geet slammer too woop your ass
Only 48 dollar for six lonng moonth
Comme and join your ssuure to havee funnnN!

Cheesey!

Posted by: Pentatonic Gathering Aug 27 2007, 01:02 AM

Hello, I can see you guys are doing a great jobb.
I just wanted to throw my name out there for vocals. I know there are people in line but if you need me do do anything, vocals or even anything, just give me a shout.
I do sing, sometimes compolsivelly, lol, so just keep doing what you are doing and I know that the song will come out great

Posted by: lavendell Aug 27 2007, 01:26 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 27 2007, 01:51 AM)

Thanks!

Again you made it a 1/4 note before I was expecting it but this time I like it better you'r way!

Posted by: Iluha Aug 27 2007, 01:31 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 27 2007, 02:26 AM)

lol you're kidding, right?

Posted by: Pentatonic Gathering Aug 27 2007, 02:44 AM

I have been listning over and over again to the final mix so far and think that the riff before the vocals doesnt fit. What do you guys think?
I think it should go like before the solo or maybe in between the two vocal patterns???

Posted by: GroovinMastiff Aug 27 2007, 03:25 AM

Hey everyone,
Things are starting to sound pretty good from what I've heard everyone do so far
Anyway, here's what I came up with after noodling around for a bit:

 Collaboration.mp3 ( 1.18MB ) : 278


I wasn't sure where to go with the song, so I basically improvised a little piece over the intro rhythm guitar, which is the attachment above. Who knows, there might be some place in the song where it might fit.

Here is just the guitar by itself without any backing track:

 Guitar.mp3 ( 1.18MB ) : 266


Marcus will probably have to process this dry guitar sound in order to add some beef to it since I just recorded straight into my sound card with no effects at all.

Comments, criticisms (constructive of course ) are welcome, I'm open to change anything for the good of the song.

Peace

Posted by: Iluha Aug 27 2007, 04:14 AM

QUOTE (GroovinMastiff @ Aug 27 2007, 04:25 AM)

Hey everyone,
Things are starting to sound pretty good from what I've heard everyone do so far
Anyway, here's what I came up with after noodling around for a bit:

 Collaboration.mp3 ( 1.18MB ) : 278


I wasn't sure where to go with the song, so I basically improvised a little piece over the intro rhythm guitar, which is the attachment above. Who knows, there might be some place in the song where it might fit.

Here is just the guitar by itself without any backing track:

 Guitar.mp3 ( 1.18MB ) : 266


Marcus will probably have to process this dry guitar sound in order to add some beef to it since I just recorded straight into my sound card with no effects at all.

Comments, criticisms (constructive of course ) are welcome, I'm open to change anything for the good of the song.

Peace

Posted by: lavendell Aug 27 2007, 04:40 AM

QUOTE (Pentatonic Gathering @ Aug 27 2007, 03:44 AM)

QUOTE (GroovinMastiff @ Aug 27 2007, 04:25 AM)

I wasn't sure where to go with the song, so I basically improvised a little piece over the intro rhythm guitar, which is the attachment above. Who knows, there might be some place in the song where it might fit.

Here is just the guitar by itself without any backing track:

 Guitar.mp3 ( 1.18MB ) : 266


Marcus will probably have to process this dry guitar sound in order to add some beef to it since I just recorded straight into my sound card with no effects at all.

Comments, criticisms (constructive of course ) are welcome, I'm open to change anything for the good of the song.

Posted by: GroovinMastiff Aug 27 2007, 04:58 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 27 2007, 12:14 AM)

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 27 2007, 12:40 AM)

That's exactly the approach I'm looking for!! I'll run it through the POD to see how it sounds. I'm sure we can use some of it, maybe for the solo?
-Marcus

Posted by: Kurt Aug 27 2007, 06:46 AM

hey marcus here are some short riffs that you can maybe still use for your collab....
they are maybe not very good, tell me what you think of them( but don´t be too hard I am still a beginner )
I did em in guitarpro...

 some_riffs.gp5 ( 3.35K ) : 182

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 27 2007, 07:24 AM

I must say thanks for the compliment on the singing I must say the lyrics you came up with are awsome and fit alot better than the ones i came up with ......I realy like the bass style of lyrics as well it dont sound so 80s like mine did lol.........I think for bass style lyrics the bass gutiar should be just dry and tight with no effects that way it will definatly give the lyrics and kick drums super huge punch...probly just add compresstion and gate to it.........that will give it plenty of drive...............just a idea cause it definatly has drive.......that could blast thru a brick wall lol.............awsome job so far everyone...........hope everyone is haveing as much fun as i am with this project......i think today i will mess around with the bass and mix a few things up and see what happens with the mix.....i have contributed so im not looking to play bass.....cause there is no i in team and theres room enough for everyone

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 27 2007, 10:55 AM

 something.wav ( 1.86MB ) : 282

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 27 2007, 02:02 PM

 bass_mix.mp3 ( 1.61MB ) : 254
well i did a lil bass test run to see how my idea of the bass being dry in the mix with out any effects i just used a lil compresor....and eq........and seems to have some pretty good attack qualitys to it........but check it out.......just trying to come up with good simple ideas.......for people to easily record there ideas without to much hassel a cable and a direct box thats about it lol....and no smoke so thas a plus..........lol

Posted by: lavendell Aug 27 2007, 04:00 PM

QUOTE (Nick325 @ Aug 27 2007, 11:55 AM)

 something.wav ( 1.86MB ) : 282

Posted by: lavendell Aug 27 2007, 04:34 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Aug 27 2007, 03:02 PM)

 bass_mix.mp3 ( 1.61MB ) : 254
well i did a lil bass test run to see how my idea of the bass being dry in the mix with out any effects i just used a lil compresor....and eq........and seems to have some pretty good attack qualitys to it........but check it out.......just trying to come up with good simple ideas.......for people to easily record there ideas without to much hassel a cable and a direct box thats about it lol....and no smoke so thas a plus..........lol

Posted by: JVM Aug 27 2007, 07:24 PM

Marcus, I ordered a line 6 toneport so I'm going to hold off on posting anything to the thread until I can use your tone

(or if it doesn't work like from podxt to pocketpod, at least I'll have a much improved recording setup).

Posted by: Otto Aug 27 2007, 09:49 PM

The bass sounds good to me, this is getting better and better
I use standard D tuning on my instruments so hope that wont mess it up, do we have a gp file or some more tabbs so I can start practising some ?

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 28 2007, 02:31 AM

cool beans im glad the bass idea seemed to work out.....I tried it with a few effects and then with reverb and just as i suspected the mix got all muddy.....so if you do find a cool effect a small amout will go along way.........I dont have gp5 tab .............Is it a free download cause it seems like everyone is useing it..sound like a handy tool to have..............any info would be helpfull about this..............Well till we meet again keep on a rocking over and out ballistic lol

Posted by: lavendell Aug 28 2007, 03:38 AM

QUOTE (Kurt @ Aug 27 2007, 07:46 AM)

hey marcus here are some short riffs that you can maybe still use for your collab....
they are maybe not very good, tell me what you think of them( but don´t be too hard I am still a beginner )
I did em in guitarpro...

Posted by: Kurt Aug 28 2007, 07:58 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 28 2007, 04:38 AM)

Kurt, man... you really impressed me there! Excellent job! We can use a lot of these riffs. I'll record them and put them in the song as soon as possible (I hope tomorrow)!
-Marcus

Posted by: steve25 Aug 29 2007, 01:11 AM

Awww damn i missed this. Ah well maybe next time. Looking forward to hearing the end result and i like the idea as well .

Posted by: Iluha Aug 29 2007, 03:24 AM

Here's a really small(1 second small) idea(only in guitar pro, have no way of recording) it's for lead guitar, some sorta scale run, have no idea what scale this is just sounded good to me when I playd it , anyways this should be playd starting on 00:54, hope you like this! oh and the last note, the pinch, first of all it's not mandatory for it to be a pinch, and second it's supposed to echo!

 idea3.ZIP ( 639bytes ) : 187

Posted by: exorcyze Aug 29 2007, 10:41 AM

Sorry Marcus, but I'm simply not going to be able to dedicate any sort of time to this right now - I've tried but it's realistically not going to happen.

I'm in the middle of looking for a new job right now, and all the kids are getting ready to start school - so my hands are more than full for the next couple weeks. =(

Posted by: Pentatonic Gathering Aug 30 2007, 07:08 AM

Hey people just posting so you all know I´m still here and havent forgot about this project, just waiting for the final mix...

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 30 2007, 02:56 PM

I working on a bridge part just trying to get a good feel with it ........so that it works with the rest of the project...........just torn on what to bring it out on the corus or the start......hmmm any ideas.....still looking for some free tab softwere so i can write it to tablature.......

Posted by: lavendell Aug 30 2007, 05:35 PM

ok, I've added some of the riffs now, and I recorded a little part of the solo just to let you know where it starts. I also moved the riff that didn't really fit, but maybe we should take it away. What do you guys think?

For starters I'm thinking 8 people should play a solo. So just send me your solo without the backing track!

Who's up for this?
(you don't need to use the PODxt preset for the solo)

Here's the updated file:
 collab_v6.mp3 ( 2.65MB ) : 311



-Marcus

Posted by: JOhn Aug 30 2007, 06:07 PM

can i solo please?

Posted by: lavendell Aug 30 2007, 06:22 PM

QUOTE (JOhn @ Aug 30 2007, 07:07 PM)

can i solo please?

Posted by: JOhn Aug 30 2007, 06:29 PM

cool but what key is this in?

Posted by: steve25 Aug 30 2007, 06:47 PM

Ok Marcus i'm working on a solo now, as you want 8 people doing it roughly how long do you want it?

Posted by: lavendell Aug 30 2007, 06:59 PM

QUOTE (JOhn @ Aug 30 2007, 07:29 PM)

QUOTE (steve25 @ Aug 30 2007, 07:47 PM)

Posted by: Iluha Aug 30 2007, 09:19 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 30 2007, 06:35 PM)

ok, I've added some of the riffs now, and I recorded a little part of the solo just to let you know where it starts. I also moved the riff that didn't really fit, but maybe we should take it away. What do you guys think?

For starters I'm thinking 8 people should play a solo. So just send me your solo without the backing track!

Who's up for this?
(you don't need to use the PODxt preset for the solo)

Here's the updated file:
 collab_v6.mp3 ( 2.65MB ) : 311

-Marcus

Posted by: Pentatonic Gathering Aug 30 2007, 09:58 PM

I´ve just hear the final mix untill now with the partial solo and I can say I LOVE IT!!!
Everything is simply perfect now I am really pumped up about singing to this!!!
By the way congrats on the solo, I think it is perfect. I might sound like a insane person right now now but I dont give a crap, the song is turning out to be one of my favorite songs I´ve ever heard, and pardon me for being such a fan, I really cant get enough of this song!!!

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 30 2007, 10:45 PM

its awsome but my riff isnt in there

ill try and do a solo maybe

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 31 2007, 12:02 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 27 2007, 12:51 AM)

Posted by: jeff Aug 31 2007, 12:28 AM

Hey Marcus,

I wrote some lyrics here as an idea if you want to make this a GMC related song. Basically it starts with the lyrics of the first verse -

:19 seconds start verse

Are you ready to Rock

Are you ready to Roll

Then grab your guitar

And get out of control

From Zero to Hero

Healty to Insane

So if you're ready to rock

then get in the game

:34 Chorus

Are you Ready

Ready to Roll

Are you Ready

to Get out of Control

:51 Verse



1:06 Repeat Chorus



1:20 another .wav sample from Kris

After the 5 guitar solos, fade out the song out with a cool effect on a voice that repeats the chorus.

If you don't like it, or if it it sucks, then obviously throw it out!

I would like to take one of the 5 solo slots if possible.

If you like these lyrics then I'll work on Verse 2. Before I did I wanted to throw out this idea since I haven't contributed yet. Let me know! Thanks - and what an awesome solo you did, as usual.

Posted by: steve25 Aug 31 2007, 12:39 AM

Hey. Ok here's a small idea i've been working on today. If you think it seriously sucks let me know because i'll change it. Something doesn't quite sound right yet but i have to go to work now eeeurgh... so let me know what you think of it so far if you like the idea of this. If you don't i came up with plenty of ideas earlier i'm sure i can come up with more

Oops forgot to include a file...

By the way i've recorded using audcity, hence why the quality isn't so good

[attachment=1583:attachment]

 solo.mp3 ( 264.92K ) : 204

Posted by: Owen Aug 31 2007, 12:56 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Aug 31 2007, 12:28 AM)

Posted by: jeff Aug 31 2007, 01:00 AM

QUOTE (Owen @ Aug 30 2007, 06:56 PM)

If people are wanting GMC lyrics then I'd opt for that.

Posted by: Iluha Aug 31 2007, 02:30 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Aug 31 2007, 01:02 AM)

I think this is perfect - do we have an expansion of this?

Posted by: lavendell Aug 31 2007, 03:08 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 30 2007, 10:19 PM)

QUOTE (Nick325 @ Aug 30 2007, 11:45 PM)

its awsome but my riff isnt in there

ill try and do a solo maybe

Posted by: lavendell Aug 31 2007, 03:25 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Aug 31 2007, 01:28 AM)

Hey Marcus,

I wrote some lyrics here as an idea if you want to make this a GMC related song. Basically it starts with the lyrics of the first verse -

:19 seconds start verse

Are you ready to Rock

Are you ready to Roll

Then grab your guitar

And get out of control

From Zero to Hero

Healty to Insane

So if you're ready to rock

then get in the game

:34 Chorus

Are you Ready

Ready to Roll

Are you Ready

to Get out of Control

:51 Verse



1:06 Repeat Chorus



1:20 another .wav sample from Kris

After the 5 guitar solos, fade out the song out with a cool effect on a voice that repeats the chorus.

If you don't like it, or if it it sucks, then obviously throw it out!

I would like to take one of the 5 solo slots if possible.

If you like these lyrics then I'll work on Verse 2. Before I did I wanted to throw out this idea since I haven't contributed yet. Let me know! Thanks - and what an awesome solo you did, as usual.

QUOTE (steve25 @ Aug 31 2007, 01:39 AM)

Hey. Ok here's a small idea i've been working on today. If you think it seriously sucks let me know because i'll change it. Something doesn't quite sound right yet but i have to go to work now eeeurgh... so let me know what you think of it so far if you like the idea of this. If you don't i came up with plenty of ideas earlier i'm sure i can come up with more

Oops forgot to include a file...

By the way i've recorded using audcity, hence why the quality isn't so good

[attachment=1583:attachment]

Posted by: jeff Aug 31 2007, 05:37 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 30 2007, 09:25 PM)

Jeff - this if awesome!!! Do we need to make the verse riff twice as long, to make these lyrics fit?
The chorus is just perfect! Love it!

-Marcus

Posted by: steve25 Aug 31 2007, 05:55 AM

Hey Marcus, just listened to the updated song and it's sounding great . Can't wait for the vocals and stuff to come in. Do you need anything else to go into this like any more riffs or anything? I'm away next week for a whole week so that means no GMC for a week . Don't worry though i'm tkaing my guitar and amp

Posted by: leedbreak Aug 31 2007, 09:31 AM

I would like to kick around a solo as well, get er done,

Posted by: Iluha Aug 31 2007, 09:42 AM

Thanks Marcus, I'll try to keep em good, well I got a riff in my head, just need to pick up the guitar and then transcribe it , but it'll have to wait till toomarow, it's allready 4 am here and I'm a bit wasted

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Aug 31 2007, 09:48 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 30 2007, 06:35 PM)

ok, I've added some of the riffs now, and I recorded a little part of the solo just to let you know where it starts. I also moved the riff that didn't really fit, but maybe we should take it away. What do you guys think?

For starters I'm thinking 8 people should play a solo. So just send me your solo without the backing track!

Who's up for this?
(you don't need to use the PODxt preset for the solo)

Here's the updated file:
 collab_v6.mp3 ( 2.65MB ) : 311

-Marcus

Posted by: Ayen Aug 31 2007, 02:40 PM

I'd love to contribute, but I lack a PodXT and a microphone, and the money to buy either.

One question though, will this collab have a tab and/or a lesson too?

Posted by: JOhn Aug 31 2007, 03:23 PM

you dont need a pod for the solo right?

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 31 2007, 03:32 PM

Well I like it...... the idea on the different key solos might make for some tricky rythem through that part of the song im thinking.........to make it all work out cause the main focus is to keep the song in you head and.....thats where the ending comes in..........love the double time lynch mob feel to it but when the song ended i was like umm how did the song go again......you know what i mean......IM not saying its bad or anything......the solo was definatly awsome as allways ........but thats just my view on it........lol please dont beat me for being honest

Posted by: ballistic31 Aug 31 2007, 06:09 PM

 solo.mp3 ( 443.56K ) : 268
well I have a solo for you as well......It fit pretty well I thought but give it a listen .....All i know is its 5.00 am and im a wee bit sleepy...........but allways find time to jam ,,, it cant be all work and no play lol . I didnt know if you wanted a mp3 file or a wav file ........I can give it to you in a wav file if you would like as well

Posted by: Iluha Aug 31 2007, 09:16 PM

I think the bridge to the solo should go back to the begining of the song, bridging between the intro and the verse, like it used to be.

I'm trying to come up with a bridge to the solo, but I seem to have little to none creativity today, so far I thought it should be something quiet, maybe even acoustic, and prehaps with some soft vocals. If I think of something I'll let you know.

Posted by: lavendell Aug 31 2007, 09:26 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Aug 31 2007, 04:32 PM)

Posted by: steve25 Aug 31 2007, 09:36 PM

Marcus, i think that sounds great and can see the idea behind it with the solo slots filled it'll sound awesome

Posted by: Iluha Aug 31 2007, 09:36 PM

I think it's a good key change!.. nothing more to add really

Posted by: leedbreak Aug 31 2007, 09:52 PM

I will still try to send in something for these ASAP. However, this puppy is growing to fast for me to keep up with. I play a lot every night but I can not stop working on lessons as I am bordering my dream speed and I am addicted.
Great work though, and a great song.

I see it already as a crown for the GMC Empire.

PS: Marcus, you could upload your solo XT patch

Posted by: lavendell Aug 31 2007, 09:57 PM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Aug 31 2007, 10:16 PM)

Posted by: steve25 Aug 31 2007, 10:20 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 31 2007, 09:57 PM)

Posted by: Iluha Aug 31 2007, 10:23 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 31 2007, 10:57 PM)

Posted by: Kurt Aug 31 2007, 10:37 PM

Marcus I would also have a short solo idea of a few seconds that would fit to first key.... may I post it as a gp file?
-Kurt

Posted by: lavendell Aug 31 2007, 10:39 PM

QUOTE (Kurt @ Aug 31 2007, 11:37 PM)

Posted by: lavendell Aug 31 2007, 10:50 PM

QUOTE (leedbreak @ Aug 31 2007, 10:52 PM)

Posted by: Kurt Aug 31 2007, 11:02 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Aug 31 2007, 11:39 PM)

Of course!

 solo_for_collab.gp5 ( 2.37K ) : 177

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 1 2007, 02:39 PM

I think the key change brought the song back very nicely.....I have been working on a bridge for the solo. the idea I have is mixing the 2 riffs the rythem riff and the corus riff makeing a new riff out of them both...... played 4 times then moveing the whole thing up one whole step for the build ...........then right into the lynch mob feeling part.......I should have it to post on sunday night.........that will also give the bass player a little fun.........so let me know what you think........cause i can change it if you think that would be to much.........oh and great job mixing in the solos

Posted by: JOhn Sep 1 2007, 06:36 PM

at what part does it change to E? because that and G are my favorite keys.

Posted by: lavendell Sep 2 2007, 03:13 AM

QUOTE (Kurt @ Sep 1 2007, 12:02 AM)

QUOTE (JOhn @ Sep 1 2007, 07:36 PM)

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 2 2007, 03:18 AM

e minor or e major? n wat scale?

Posted by: lavendell Sep 2 2007, 03:27 AM

QUOTE (Nick325 @ Sep 2 2007, 04:18 AM)

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 2 2007, 03:35 AM

how long should it be

Posted by: lavendell Sep 2 2007, 06:03 AM

QUOTE (Nick325 @ Sep 2 2007, 04:35 AM)

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 2 2007, 06:27 AM

k

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 2 2007, 06:56 PM

 bridge_Rendered.mp3 ( 1.47MB ) : 286
ok welp .. after going thru several variations........the simple one seemed to work best and as they say simple sells well for the most part lol ........The idea is to put this riff in about 1:38 pretty much how it sounds minus the crowd cheer lol .......... sorry but i couldnt help myself lol..... just guitar with out anything behind it.......then to the bridge idea.......and you will see how it threads in quite nice to the lynch mob feeling solo ..... I mean it could probly use a little tweek here and the but other wise it seems pretty seemless................. well give it a listen.......and see what you think........I am off to bed the sun is starting to come up...........lol

Posted by: Iluha Sep 2 2007, 10:28 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Sep 2 2007, 07:56 PM)

 bridge_Rendered.mp3 ( 1.47MB ) : 286
ok welp .. after going thru several variations........the simple one seemed to work best and as they say simple sells well for the most part lol ........The idea is to put this riff in about 1:38 pretty much how it sounds minus the crowd cheer lol .......... sorry but i couldnt help myself lol..... just guitar with out anything behind it.......then to the bridge idea.......and you will see how it threads in quite nice to the lynch mob feeling solo ..... I mean it could probly use a little tweek here and the but other wise it seems pretty seemless................. well give it a listen.......and see what you think........I am off to bed the sun is starting to come up...........lol

Posted by: JVM Sep 2 2007, 11:12 PM

Sounds really good ballistic! I've been pretty busy lately and my toneport doesn't come for another 2 weeks roughly yet, so I think I might step out of this one instead of holding you back

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 3 2007, 04:42 AM

Thank you both for the compliment .....i tried to get all fancy and well the more i did....the more it just was not going to fit........my girlfriend was like you know I dont know anything about music except for one thing ........the simple one kept me interested.....when you got all fancy my brain was like turn it off...not that it sounds like crap but ... it just made me want to skip that part and get on to something else.......so I just went with the simple one and it works alot better.....with more flow......

JVM do you have anyway of recording.......cause you dont realy need a tone port.................just record something and im sure between marcus or I or someone else we could just process it........with out to much trouble at all...I
dont think you are holding anyone back....... lets give it a shot lets see what we can do..........where there is a will there is a way

Posted by: Iluha Sep 6 2007, 02:08 AM

Hey hey! what's up? been a few days since this collab got updated! the people demand progress!

Posted by: lavendell Sep 6 2007, 03:04 AM

Hey guys!

Sorry, I've been really busy these last days! I'll take a look at this a.s.a.p!


-Marcus

Posted by: Smurkas Sep 7 2007, 12:35 AM

Great work boys, can't wait to hear the finished song. Lavendell, what kind of EQ/effect are you using on the guitar in the intro? Also, love the guitar sound, never got my podxt to sound that good. I'm going to grab that sound in case I ever get it back again.


/Marcus

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 7 2007, 04:15 AM

QUOTE (Smurkas @ Sep 6 2007, 07:35 PM)

QUOTE (Smurkas @ Sep 6 2007, 07:35 PM)

Posted by: lavendell Sep 7 2007, 05:17 AM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Sep 2 2007, 07:56 PM)

 bridge_Rendered.mp3 ( 1.47MB ) : 286
ok welp .. after going thru several variations........the simple one seemed to work best and as they say simple sells well for the most part lol ........The idea is to put this riff in about 1:38 pretty much how it sounds minus the crowd cheer lol .......... sorry but i couldnt help myself lol..... just guitar with out anything behind it.......then to the bridge idea.......and you will see how it threads in quite nice to the lynch mob feeling solo ..... I mean it could probly use a little tweek here and the but other wise it seems pretty seemless................. well give it a listen.......and see what you think........I am off to bed the sun is starting to come up...........lol

Posted by: Iluha Sep 7 2007, 05:57 AM

that bridge worked PERFECT, wow this gives a fresh sound to the solo, I really love it!

The change to the chorus is a bit odd, but it would sound awesome if the solo ends on the right notes, which in my opinion are some bends, im talking the bends at the end of Lavendell's solo, I think they will make a great bridge back to the chorus, so whoever gets to do the closing solo try putting those bends in the end!

Posted by: steve25 Sep 7 2007, 06:00 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 7 2007, 05:17 AM)

Sounds great Ballistic! And I really like the crowd! hehe... so I put it in the song as well I can take it out if you want though.

Here's the updated song:  collab_v9.mp3 ( 3.79MB ) : 273

I only put in the first part, because the whole bridge is pretty long. (the song is already over 4 minutes) Maybe you can come up with a shorter one? I added another chorus after the solo, which means the key goes back to D again. I'm not sure that sound right, so let me know what you think!
-Marcus

Posted by: lavendell Sep 7 2007, 06:50 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Sep 7 2007, 06:57 AM)

Posted by: steve25 Sep 7 2007, 06:53 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 7 2007, 06:50 AM)

Great idea, Iluha!

Speaking of that... We still need 4 people to play the solo in E (starting at 03:01). Who's up for it?
-Marcus

Posted by: lavendell Sep 7 2007, 06:56 AM

QUOTE (steve25 @ Sep 7 2007, 07:00 AM)

QUOTE (steve25 @ Sep 7 2007, 07:00 AM)

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 7 2007, 06:57 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 7 2007, 01:50 AM)

Great idea, Iluha!

Speaking of that... We still need 4 people to play the solo in E (starting at 03:01). Who's up for it?
-Marcus

Posted by: steve25 Sep 7 2007, 07:10 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 7 2007, 06:56 AM)

What if the singer just sceams "SOLOOOO"?
I don't think there's much I can do about that, other than rearrange them. Could you be a bit more specific about what you think sounds wrong?
-Marcus

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 7 2007, 08:03 AM

ill have it up in a couple of hours

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 7 2007, 05:00 PM

I think the bridge part sounds great .I dont think any longer or shorter.It totaly breaks it up and sets the pace right on track for the solo The crowd part is fun,,,,,,but i think we need like a sound effect like a window breaking or a mac truck horn or something like that ........They are all pretty lame examples..... but you get the idea or a news reporter..... saying something like ....tonight on larry king live .....or south park,, you killed kenny you b*******..............I dont know ..... but im sure somthing will come to mind.. um has anyone seen our bass player around......... have not seen him on much

Edited for language - Andrew

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 7 2007, 09:45 PM

Here is my attempt to sing...

verse 1
Are you ready to Rock, Are you ready to Roll
Then grab your guitar, And get out of control

chorus
Are you Ready
Ready to Roll
Are you Ready
to Get out of Control

verse 2
From Zero to Hero, Healty to Insane
So if you're ready to rock, then get in the game

(Repeat Chorus)

 mixdown1.mp3 ( 1.17MB ) : 309

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 7 2007, 09:52 PM

Heh, realy cool Kristofer, I am a real devotee of your vocal styling

Guys, the whole track is really sounding great - I am very impressed with the work so far!

Posted by: jeff Sep 7 2007, 10:55 PM

Hey Marcus,

I haven't had time to record a lead until this weekend and I will do so! Sorry man, but I do have some ideas about a lead. I think I need to add words for another verse as well. I know what I'll be busy doing!

Posted by: Maria Sep 8 2007, 01:20 AM

Hey guys

This sounds really fun! I was actually thinking of joining with some vocals, is that ok with you Marcus?

Maybe I could record one verse and chorus as a break, with only bass and drums? What do you think?

Posted by: Iluha Sep 8 2007, 01:33 AM

I think you should do it Maria, I think we need to gather everyone's vocal ideas,and either choose between them or just use several of them.

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 8 2007, 02:35 AM

I think it sounds great........I myself think if this is going to be a gmc song....the lyrics all should be sung by gmc instructors..............that would be great.and it would give great meaning and a feeling for the site itself like.........its more of a comunity than just you old average site ,, this is something alot better..musicians working with instructors ............would give it a sort of personal level,,,,,,,,but back to the song now we just need to map out the verse parts and corus a bit better to define it......and im thinking put a little more work into the lyrics part................so everyone grab pens and paper and lets toss some more ideas around......

Posted by: KRmachine Sep 8 2007, 02:46 AM

I have a suggestion for the chorus, if I may. When the line 'are you ready to get out of control' is sung the second time, don't pause after 'ready', just sing it in straight 8th notes, and then replace the melody where 'to get out of control' was with a guitar break with the same notes except the third note is a pinch harmonic. I don't know if you understand what I'm getting at, but it should sound great.

Posted by: Nick334 Sep 8 2007, 07:29 PM

This is getting really good. Good work everyone.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 8 2007, 08:13 PM

I am glad everyone is positive about this!

Now let's see what our collabs master sais!

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Sep 8 2007, 10:02 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 7 2007, 10:45 PM)

Here is my attempt to sing...

verse 1
Are you ready to Rock, Are you ready to Roll
Then grab your guitar, And get out of control

chorus
Are you Ready
Ready to Roll
Are you Ready
to Get out of Control

verse 2
From Zero to Hero, Healty to Insane
So if you're ready to rock, then get in the game

(Repeat Chorus)

 mixdown1.mp3 ( 1.17MB ) : 309

Posted by: Maria Sep 8 2007, 10:39 PM

So I took the liberty to write and record a slightly cheesy verse

verse
Marcus Lavendell, David, Andrew Cockburn
Gabriel Leopardi, Pavel, Kristofer Dahl

chorus
Are you Ready
Ready to Roll
Are you Ready
to Get out of Control

 mixdown2_maria.mp3 ( 844.77K ) : 350

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 8 2007, 11:46 PM

QUOTE (Maria @ Sep 8 2007, 05:39 PM)

So I took the liberty to write a slightly cheesy verse

verse
Marcus Lavendell, David, Andrew Cockburn
Gabriel Leopardi, Pavel, Kristofer Dahl

chorus
Are you Ready
Ready to Roll
Are you Ready
to Get out of Control

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 9 2007, 12:07 AM

Hey Marcus, I'm not sure if all the slots are taken but if you need an extra solo anywhere I'd like to sign up - this is looking really great

Posted by: Iluha Sep 9 2007, 01:15 AM

Wow Maria that was awesome!

Maybe we shouldn't use those lyrics but you'r singing fits perfectly!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 9 2007, 02:44 AM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Sep 8 2007, 11:02 PM)

WOW, incredible work !!! I like your peculiar singing
The song sounds really good, congratulations !!!

Posted by: jeff Sep 9 2007, 04:32 AM

Marcus,

I've added a couple of things here. I used a Heil Talk Box, or as my wife would say "the spit tube" and put a phrase "Are you ready to rock" right where the crowd is. I like the crowd! I added a lead at 3:00. I'm not quite sure where a lead should go or how long it should be so let me know. (or if I should play one a t all) I messed up a little so please get rid of it of you don't like it or let me know if I can re-do it. (I probably should )

I also added some more talk box stuff at the end as maybe a fade out or something like that. If you want it, great, if not it's no sweat to me. I've got some other ideas for the lyrics too so I'll put that up shortly.

Jeff



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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 8 2007, 08:44 PM)

Thanks Juan - I am still learning so all encouragement is more than welcome!

Thanks to Jeff too - for the cool lyrics! I particularly liked healthy to insane - feels very natural to sing that.

QUOTE (Maria @ Sep 8 2007, 04:39 PM)

So I took the liberty to write and record a slightly cheesy verse

verse
Marcus Lavendell, David, Andrew Cockburn
Gabriel Leopardi, Pavel, Kristofer Dahl

chorus
Are you Ready
Ready to Roll
Are you Ready
to Get out of Control

 mixdown2_maria.mp3 ( 844.77K ) : 350

Posted by: JVM Sep 9 2007, 04:45 AM

I think it sounds good mr. frampton

Posted by: jeff Sep 9 2007, 05:03 AM

QUOTE (JVM @ Sep 8 2007, 10:45 PM)

I think it sounds good mr. frampton

Posted by: Maria Sep 9 2007, 06:26 PM

Posted by: FretDancer69 Sep 10 2007, 04:12 AM

QUOTE (Maria @ Sep 8 2007, 03:39 PM)

So I took the liberty to write and record a slightly cheesy verse

verse
Marcus Lavendell, David, Andrew Cockburn
Gabriel Leopardi, Pavel, Kristofer Dahl

chorus
Are you Ready
Ready to Roll
Are you Ready
to Get out of Control

 mixdown2_maria.mp3 ( 844.77K ) : 350

Posted by: leedbreak Sep 10 2007, 12:00 PM

I might be up to a E solo if still needed?

Posted by: lavendell Sep 10 2007, 03:29 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 7 2007, 10:45 PM)

Here is my attempt to sing...

verse 1
Are you ready to Rock, Are you ready to Roll
Then grab your guitar, And get out of control

chorus
Are you Ready
Ready to Roll
Are you Ready
to Get out of Control

verse 2
From Zero to Hero, Healty to Insane
So if you're ready to rock, then get in the game

(Repeat Chorus)

 mixdown1.mp3 ( 1.17MB ) : 309

Posted by: lavendell Sep 10 2007, 03:56 PM

QUOTE (Maria @ Sep 8 2007, 11:39 PM)

So I took the liberty to write and record a slightly cheesy verse

verse
Marcus Lavendell, David, Andrew Cockburn
Gabriel Leopardi, Pavel, Kristofer Dahl

chorus
Are you Ready
Ready to Roll
Are you Ready
to Get out of Control

 mixdown2_maria.mp3 ( 844.77K ) : 350

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 10 2007, 04:04 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 10 2007, 04:29 PM)

Haha... Fantastic Kris! Can you send me the vocal file, not mixed with the backing track?

I love the scream at 01:04! Just perfect!
-Marcus

Posted by: lavendell Sep 10 2007, 04:17 PM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 9 2007, 05:32 AM)

Marcus,

I've added a couple of things here. I used a Heil Talk Box, or as my wife would say "the spit tube" and put a phrase "Are you ready to rock" right where the crowd is. I like the crowd! I added a lead at 3:00. I'm not quite sure where a lead should go or how long it should be so let me know. (or if I should play one a t all) I messed up a little so please get rid of it of you don't like it or let me know if I can re-do it. (I probably should )

I also added some more talk box stuff at the end as maybe a fade out or something like that. If you want it, great, if not it's no sweat to me. I've got some other ideas for the lyrics too so I'll put that up shortly.

Jeff

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 10 2007, 05:04 PM)

QUOTE (leedbreak @ Sep 10 2007, 01:00 PM)

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 10 2007, 04:18 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 10 2007, 05:15 PM)

Posted by: Maria Sep 10 2007, 08:31 PM

QUOTE (FretDancer69 @ Sep 10 2007, 05:12 AM)

wow, those were amazing vocals Maria!

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 10 2007, 04:56 PM)

This is great Maria!! The verse sounds awesome, and the chorus is absolutely perfect!
I think the lyrics works great as well, so If no one else comes up with something even better I say we go for these lyrics!

Posted by: muris Sep 10 2007, 08:43 PM

QUOTE (Maria @ Sep 10 2007, 09:31 PM)

Thank you FretDancer69,
Great! I am glad you liked it Marcus!

Posted by: steve25 Sep 10 2007, 11:56 PM

Marcus if you still need a solo i can make on for tonight if yo uwant? It's in E right?

Posted by: lavendell Sep 11 2007, 12:16 AM

QUOTE (steve25 @ Sep 11 2007, 12:56 AM)

Posted by: jeff Sep 11 2007, 12:36 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 10 2007, 10:17 AM)

Jeff, this is so cool! I definitely think the talk box should be in the song!! and the solo is awesome!
I'll add it to the song as soon as I get to my studio.

Great job!!


-Marcus

Posted by: steve25 Sep 11 2007, 04:10 AM

ok i have something which i've been working on today. I apologise that i can't play very fast solos yet which is what everyone else seems to be doing, i'm not good enough yet so i'll udnerstand if you don't want to use it, just thought i'd see if you like it

 solo2.wav ( 2.51MB ) : 148

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 11 2007, 04:15 AM

my e solo is coming

Posted by: leedbreak Sep 11 2007, 05:48 AM

Thank marcus, I will have mine up in a day or so, thanks

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 11 2007, 06:45 AM

Ok so here are the individual vocal tracks compressed into rar files.

They are all the same length and start from the exact beginning so they should be easy to match!

I can't tell you how excited I am to hear the outcome!!



Mine:  kristofer.rar ( 14.2MB ) : 187


Maria:  maria.rar ( 5.71MB ) : 148

Posted by: Nick325 Sep 11 2007, 10:35 AM

 song_collab_solo.mp3 ( 227.78K ) : 210

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 11 2007, 03:22 PM

hey marcus I dont know if we are going to need bass or not........but if need be i can do the bass track im all set up to do that.....I know the spot has been filled ..........just wanted to let you know if they pull out of the collab....I can do it

Posted by: lavendell Sep 12 2007, 03:12 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Sep 11 2007, 04:22 PM)

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Sep 9 2007, 01:07 AM)

Hey Marcus, I'm not sure if all the slots are taken but if you need an extra solo anywhere I'd like to sign up - this is looking really great

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 12 2007, 08:52 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 12 2007, 10:12 AM)

Ballistic,
I just talked to Otto (who signed up to play the bass). He says it's ok with him if you play the bass instead, because he's very busy right now and can't find the time for it. Can you figure out how to play it by ear, or do you need tabs or anything from me?
-Marcus
Hey Andrew,
I'm afraid all the main solo spots are taken, but I'd love to have a solo in the background at the last chorus. Do you wan't to give it a shot?
-Marcus

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 13 2007, 05:54 AM

Ok, here it is - I put some stuff in for the fadeout as well, feel free to mix it down if you don't like it.

If the solo is too busy for the end let me know and I can try something simpler ... I had a lot of fun with this, back to my pentatonic rocker roots

 Are_You_Ready_Solo_Backing.mp3 ( 1.25MB ) : 225
 Are_You_Ready_Solo.mp3 ( 1.13MB ) : 247

Posted by: jeff Sep 13 2007, 10:43 AM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Sep 12 2007, 11:54 PM)

Ok, here it is - I put some stuff in for the fadeout as well, feel free to mix it down if you don't like it.

If the solo is too busy for the end let me know and I can try something simpler ... I had a lot of fun with this, back to my pentatonic rocker roots

Posted by: No Payne No Gain Sep 13 2007, 11:20 AM

Andrew hey,
Its sounds great, the ending isn't too busy at all, it sounds cool, especially with the fade out. I like the fade out because to me it sounds like you could keep going and going with the solo, not saying that you can't The riff is cool too and i like how you play your solo in the same "feel" dunno how to say it, not the key...the solo sounds like it fits and serves it's purpose. Guess all the theory can pay off after all.
Props

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 13 2007, 11:24 AM

Thanks guys

First rule of fadeouts: Make it sound like you are just about to play the best thing ever, but it just faded out before it ... that way the audience begs for more !

Posted by: JVM Sep 13 2007, 11:40 AM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Sep 12 2007, 10:24 PM)

Thanks guys

First rule of fadeouts: Make it sound like you are just about to play the best thing ever, but it just faded out before it ... that way the audience begs for more !

Posted by: shredmandan Sep 13 2007, 01:33 PM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 13 2007, 05:43 AM)

You nailed it Andrew. Excellent!

Posted by: JVM Sep 13 2007, 01:35 PM

Listening to it again, it's even better, astounding even Great job andrew! Can't wait to see how all of this is going to shape up and come together.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 13 2007, 07:13 PM

QUOTE (JVM @ Sep 13 2007, 08:35 AM)

Listening to it again, it's even better, astounding even Great job andrew! Can't wait to see how all of this is going to shape up and come together.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 13 2007, 08:27 PM

QUOTE (Maria @ Sep 8 2007, 06:39 PM)

So I took the liberty to write and record a slightly cheesy verse

verse
Marcus Lavendell, David, Andrew Cockburn
Gabriel Leopardi, Pavel, Kristofer Dahl

chorus
Are you Ready
Ready to Roll
Are you Ready
to Get out of Control

 mixdown2_maria.mp3 ( 844.77K ) : 350

Posted by: lavendell Sep 14 2007, 01:21 AM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Sep 13 2007, 06:54 AM)

Ok, here it is - I put some stuff in for the fadeout as well, feel free to mix it down if you don't like it.

If the solo is too busy for the end let me know and I can try something simpler ... I had a lot of fun with this, back to my pentatonic rocker roots

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 14 2007, 01:35 AM

Man now I am impressed!!

What did you do with the vocals, did you tighten them up and pitched them? I got to know - this could save me valuable practicing time!!

Who did the "yeah" before the "Out of control" - suited perfectly!

You have melted all contributions together into an awesome sounding tune - hats off to you!

Posted by: leedbreak Sep 14 2007, 03:22 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 13 2007, 07:35 PM)

Man now I am impressed!!

What did you do with the vocals, did you tighten then up and pitched them? I got to know - this could save me valuable practicing time!!

Who did the "yeah" before the "Out of control" - suited perfectly!

You have melted all contributions together into an awesome sounding tune - hats off to you!

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Sep 13 2007, 01:13 PM)

Posted by: Iluha Sep 14 2007, 06:06 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 14 2007, 02:21 AM)

Andrew, - PERFECT! (just as I expected)

Here's the updated file with Kris & Maria's vocals as well:

 collab_v10.mp3 ( 4.24MB ) : 277

Let me know what you guys think!
-Marcus

Posted by: jeff Sep 14 2007, 06:54 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 13 2007, 07:21 PM)

Andrew, - PERFECT! (just as I expected)

Here's the updated file with Kris & Maria's vocals as well:

 collab_v10.mp3 ( 4.24MB ) : 277

Let me know what you guys think!


-Marcus

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 13 2007, 07:35 PM)

Man now I am impressed!!

What did you do with the vocals, did you tighten them up and pitched them? I got to know - this could save me valuable practicing time!!

Who did the "yeah" before the "Out of control" - suited perfectly!

You have melted all contributions together into an awesome sounding tune - hats off to you!

Posted by: lavendell Sep 14 2007, 07:43 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 14 2007, 02:35 AM)

Man now I am impressed!!

What did you do with the vocals, did you tighten them up and pitched them? I got to know - this could save me valuable practicing time!!

Who did the "yeah" before the "Out of control" - suited perfectly!

You have melted all contributions together into an awesome sounding tune - hats off to you!

Posted by: lavendell Sep 14 2007, 07:57 PM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Sep 14 2007, 07:06 PM)

Just brilliant, I'm speechless, this has been an awesome ride, what a great way to end it!

Posted by: visi0n Sep 14 2007, 11:34 PM

It sounds nice enjoyed listening

Solo's were great !

Posted by: rokchik Sep 15 2007, 02:03 AM

Sounds awesome guys! Great work.....love the fade out by the way

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 15 2007, 02:43 AM

WOW!!!!

Man this is sounding good - its an awesome advert for GMC, it should get top billing on the front page, especially since it is all about the members driving a really awesome song.

Marcus, you are doing an amazing job of mixing this, really awesome, it sounds just incredible!

Posted by: jeff Sep 15 2007, 02:45 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 14 2007, 01:57 PM)

I'm glad you like it, Iluha!

But it's not not quite finished yet. We still need those real drums, and bass. And I'd like some more guys to sing in the chorus
I would also like to discuss the structure of the song. For example: Should we have that 2:nd chorus twice as long as the first chorus (as it is now). etc...

Any ideas are welcome!


-Marcus

Posted by: lavendell Sep 15 2007, 04:26 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 15 2007, 03:45 AM)

Posted by: jeff Sep 15 2007, 06:32 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 14 2007, 10:26 PM)

At first I was just thinking about double up the existing vocals, but now that you mentioned it I think it'll sound cool to also add some harmonies to it.

Do you want to give it a shot?


-Marcus

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 15 2007, 06:57 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 15 2007, 01:32 AM)

Well.. my singing is not so great but sure, I'll give it a shot. . I'll first doubling up and then I'll try harmonies. You guys might need ear plugs!

Posted by: jeff Sep 15 2007, 09:25 AM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Sep 15 2007, 12:57 AM)

If you still need some in a week or so I'll give it a go when I get back from my Holiday

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 15 2007, 09:36 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 15 2007, 04:25 AM)

OK .let us know when you return and hopefully we'll have some more vocals by then. Have a nice Holiday

Posted by: jeff Sep 15 2007, 08:25 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 14 2007, 01:57 PM)

I'm glad you like it, Iluha!

But it's not not quite finished yet. We still need those real drums, and bass. And I'd like some more guys to sing in the chorus
I would also like to discuss the structure of the song. For example: Should we have that 2:nd chorus twice as long as the first chorus (as it is now). etc...

Any ideas are welcome!


-Marcus

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 15 2007, 08:44 PM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 15 2007, 07:32 AM)

Well.. my singing is not so great but sure, I'll give it a shot. . I'll first doubling up and then I'll try harmonies. You guys might need ear plugs!

Posted by: jeff Sep 15 2007, 09:12 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 15 2007, 02:44 PM)

What about harmonies with the talk box...?

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 16 2007, 06:02 PM

 bass_over_mix.mp3 ( 6.37MB ) : 244
Well I just did a test run with bass over the mix.........just to see if the sound was good or if I should make a new bass patch to use to record with ........I thought this patch worked ok ......but someone elses ears might think differently so give it a listen.........If its good and will work for everyone i will post the wave ........I must say though a bass wave with no music is a horid thing to listen to


welp im off to bed.................where did the time go last i looked it was 10.00 pm and now 5.00 am

Posted by: jeff Sep 16 2007, 08:00 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Sep 16 2007, 12:02 PM)

 bass_over_mix.mp3 ( 6.37MB ) : 244
Well I just did a test run with bass over the mix.........just to see if the sound was good or if I should make a new bass patch to use to record with ........I thought this patch worked ok ......but someone elses ears might think differently so give it a listen.........If its good and will work for everyone i will post the wave ........I must say though a bass wave with no music is a horid thing to listen to


welp im off to bed.................where did the time go last i looked it was 10.00 pm and now 5.00 am

Posted by: lavendell Sep 18 2007, 11:42 PM

QUOTE (ballistic31 @ Sep 16 2007, 07:02 PM)

 bass_over_mix.mp3 ( 6.37MB ) : 244
Well I just did a test run with bass over the mix.........just to see if the sound was good or if I should make a new bass patch to use to record with ........I thought this patch worked ok ......but someone elses ears might think differently so give it a listen.........If its good and will work for everyone i will post the wave ........I must say though a bass wave with no music is a horid thing to listen to
welp im off to bed.................where did the time go last i looked it was 10.00 pm and now 5.00 am

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 19 2007, 03:52 AM

I just realised there is a chance I might my be able to do a "high scream version" of the chorus - in best cases that could sound like a cross-over between Axl Rose and a mouse. On the other hand with Marcus mixing ability he could make it sound like Lemmy...!

Either way, these recordings could be used as backing (octave higher harmony) or maybe as the main vocal in a final chorus or similar.

I might give it a shot unless I blow my voice first.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 19 2007, 05:24 AM

Ok I did a bunch of them, I'll leave up to someone else to decide if/how to use these...

 chorus.rar ( 16.08MB ) : 164

Posted by: JVM Sep 19 2007, 05:46 AM

Kris, I have to say - you sounded pretty uncomfortable / strained singing like this One particular thing I noticed was when you sing "control" as in "out of control" you kind of say contr-hole (which is fine, kind of an axl thing such as knock knock knockin on heavens do~owor, hey, hey, hey hey yeah ) so thats fine but it really kicks in and sounds bad on the second syllable as you seem to strain yourself on the contr-hole part it seems, maybe try extending it like so: "controooo-ol where the -ol is where you do a short raise in pitch or whatever. I'm not a singer!

Anyway, just some thoughts.

Posted by: Robin Sep 19 2007, 09:55 AM

OH MY GOODNESS, I just heard it for the first time. Its AMAZING!

GMC theme song?

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 19 2007, 07:09 PM

hey marcus well i got the bass wav done a lil bit sooner than expected....It seems that it rendered to wave a bit on the hot side.........but if you have any problems with it let me know and i can take some of the juice out of it ............It is a nice dry mix with plenty of room to play.....Oh and on the solo part that lil bass scat flury of notes.......I was going to take that out....but maybee you might be able to work with it ........It is definatly no my best work.....that for sure oppps i dont know what happen .......... well talk with you all soon

somehow its 5.00 am ....... I think i see a patern here

woops file didnt attach bass wav hope it works this time

woops file didnt attach bass wav hope it works this time

 bass_line_mp3.mp3 ( 6.23MB ) : 194
woops file didnt attach bass mp3 hope it works this time........sorry the wav file i think is just to big for here .......but it can be converted back to wav

Posted by: lavendell Sep 20 2007, 03:41 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 15 2007, 09:25 PM)

Posted by: Iluha Sep 20 2007, 03:55 AM

Great, just great! especially love Kris's new version of the chorus, sound just awesome, and Andrew's fade out solo is really breathtaking and leaves you wanting for more!

Posted by: JVM Sep 20 2007, 04:06 AM

I think if we have a new verse it should just replace the repeated verse.

Posted by: jeff Sep 20 2007, 04:18 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 18 2007, 09:52 PM)

I just realised there is a chance I might my be able to do a "high scream version" of the chorus - in best cases that could sound like a cross-over between Axl Rose and a mouse. On the other hand with Marcus mixing ability he could make it sound like Lemmy...!

Either way, these recordings could be used as backing (octave higher harmony) or maybe as the main vocal in a final chorus or similar.

I might give it a shot unless I blow my voice first.

Posted by: lavendell Sep 20 2007, 04:23 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 20 2007, 05:18 AM)

That brings up a whole other point of discussion. A Video! That's right Kris. You will need to break out the sunglasses. Except this time you need to polish up on the Axel Rose side to side sway move that he does. You can mix that in with the Curious Coincedence move and next thing you know... MTV baby!

Posted by: jeff Sep 20 2007, 04:29 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 19 2007, 09:41 PM)

This looks great! I'm sure we can squeeze in another verse

Kris, do you want/have time to record another verse with these lyrics?


Here's the updated song, including Kris's "high scream chorus" (sounds awesome, btw ) and also Ballistic's bass!

 collab_v11.mp3 ( 4.25MB ) : 267

Let me know what you think!
If we should add that new verse - where should we put it? All ideas are welcome!


-Marcus

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 20 2007, 04:44 PM

Wow that sounds great.........glad to see the bass file worked.....took me forever to get it loaded lol
Im trying to think on where another verse would fit ..... all i could come up with is.....It would sound realy good as a huge corus over the ending solo.....kind of set in the back ground .....sounding like a whole stadium was singing it all together at once........you know what i mean... maybee we could get a few people to sing it as a corus and just drown it with a huge chamber reverb.......with a long tail on it....detune everyone voice once or twice.........and send it thru something like ataries hormony maker........I think that would make it sound like a 1000 people or better............just an idea but it would keep the song still at 4.00 mins and it wouldnt go into the 10 min led zep song mode ......

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 21 2007, 05:32 AM

Of course we are going to make a video collab for this one!

About another verse, I'd be happy to make another one - however I am not really sure it's needed..?

Posted by: chast Sep 21 2007, 05:35 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 21 2007, 06:32 AM)

Of course we are going to make a video collab for this one!

About another verse, I'd be happy to make another one - however I am not really sure it's needed..?

Posted by: steve25 Sep 21 2007, 05:45 AM

Hey marcus it sounds great. But you took your other solo out i thought that was great. To be honest the only thing i don't like about the solo is my bit right at the end the rest sounds fine but too high pitched and stuff realyl so i'd say take mine out and put yours back in i've already got one in there so doesn't matter

Posted by: lavendell Sep 21 2007, 06:11 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 20 2007, 05:29 AM)

Marcus, I miss your lead at the key change to E. I really thought that was awesome. I'm not too crazy about my lead though. Any chance you can put yours back in? It just fit that change so perfectly. If not, you can take mine out and put yours there or I can try to play it the way you did. (fat chance of that! )

QUOTE (steve25 @ Sep 21 2007, 06:45 AM)

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 21 2007, 06:26 AM

I think it would be a pitty to remove gmc students' solos - the whole charm with this song is that it's a collab!

Posted by: jeff Sep 21 2007, 06:39 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 21 2007, 12:11 AM)

Jeff, are you kidding me?!

If we had a "GMC degree" I would have given you straight A's for that solo!
Well, it's your choice but I'd hate to take your solo out of the song...


-Marcus

Posted by: steve25 Sep 21 2007, 07:14 AM

Kris i already have a solo in there straight after marcus's first one. My last one i don't know what i did when i recorded that but it's totally screwed up and to be honest it spoils the song. Yeah Marcus put yours back in my solo sucks to be honest lol

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 21 2007, 04:50 PM

+1 for the video - all the students playing solos could record a clip of them miming their part if they have the equipment! And Kris in his Curious Coincidence mode glueing it all together, with the occasional appearance from guitar tube

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 26 2007, 01:56 AM

To get a little bit of "gmc volcals" without adding another verse - I tried recording some kind of outro. I am not completely sure how well this works with Andrew's outro - but I have a lot of faith in Marcus' magic mixing chops!

 outro.rar ( 11.6MB ) : 124

Posted by: lavendell Sep 29 2007, 04:34 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 26 2007, 02:56 AM)

To get a little bit of "gmc volcals" without adding another verse - I tried recording some kind of outro. I am not completely sure how well this works with Andrew's outro - but I have a lot of faith in Marcus' magic mixing chops!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 29 2007, 08:38 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 29 2007, 11:34 AM)

Sounds great Kris!!

Here's the updated file with the new outro:
 collab_v12.mp3 ( 4.24MB ) : 236

I'm still waiting for the drums, but I think GroovinMastiff's brother will record them any day now!
-Marcus

Posted by: muris Sep 29 2007, 08:45 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 29 2007, 05:34 PM)

Sounds great Kris!!

Here's the updated file with the new outro:
 collab_v12.mp3 ( 4.24MB ) : 236

I'm still waiting for the drums, but I think GroovinMastiff's brother will record them any day now!
-Marcus

Posted by: Ben N Sep 29 2007, 08:49 PM

wow!!!! that sound great!!
good gob guys

Posted by: lavendell Sep 29 2007, 10:49 PM

Thanks guys!
I must have heard it 100 times now, and I still like it!!


-Marcus

Posted by: JVM Sep 29 2007, 10:55 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Sep 29 2007, 09:49 AM)

Thanks guys!
I must have heard it 100 times now, and I still like it!!
-Marcus

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 29 2007, 11:35 PM

Thanks a lot for the kind words guys!

Remember Marcus is the man though - I am stunned over his abilities and initiative!

Posted by: Ben N Sep 30 2007, 12:13 AM

yea marcus rocks!!! and i heard it to a few
times i love it

Posted by: Iluha Sep 30 2007, 01:47 AM

I agree Marcus I heard so many times and I still love it, I'm very glad I had something to do with this collab, hope the final product will be done soon!

Posted by: ballistic31 Sep 30 2007, 05:51 PM

yeah it definatly sounds good great job marcus....im glad i was a part of it as well ...I STILL am trying to clear my desk top of all the wav files i had created from this colab ...going ummm nah...lets try this and just never got around to getting rid of them....but it will definatly be cool with real drums behind it ..ANd the realy cool part is this is a multi national......colab.........I jammed with people like across the ocean..............I must say it is a first.fo me .and im sure not a last ............

and man ....its 5.05 am ......I definatly see a patern here

Posted by: leedbreak Oct 1 2007, 10:00 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Sep 29 2007, 07:47 PM)

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 1 2007, 04:13 PM

Also - Marcus must be seen as the main composer/arranger of the tune - isn't that right?

Posted by: Cherio Oct 2 2007, 10:16 AM

omg... guys that is awesome!!!
well done!!!!! Kris the singing is great
the solos are awesome
seriously that is so cool!

Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 2 2007, 12:40 PM

QUOTE (Cherio @ Oct 2 2007, 03:16 AM)

omg... guys that is awesome!!!
well done!!!!! Kris the singing is great
the solos are awesome
seriously that is so cool!

Posted by: ballistic31 Oct 2 2007, 04:25 PM

yes i agree that marcus is the composer basicaly we all just kind of thew bits and pieces at him and he put it all together as it is before us and mixed it .....Im trying to think of a clever way to ask marcus to mix my cd for me when completed

..I got the mics down sound and all that,, but mixing is definatly an art..I must have 30 books im my studio. From hooking it all up to mixing ,,,,The whole buss and aux send this to route this to patch this and 20 hrtz that.....IM like isnt there just a darn easy button on the thing.

pretty soon im going to send a dear calkwalk letter......dear cake walk my cd is on its way......I skipped the trouble shooting hot line...........to get better results.........You mix it

ps thanks

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 10 2007, 03:32 PM

Just in case anyone missed it - we are also working on a http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=7553 for this tune!

Posted by: steve25 Oct 10 2007, 05:35 PM

I like it it's a very good song. The video will be interesting but it might look a bit weird with all the different video recordings

Posted by: lavendell Oct 11 2007, 12:35 AM

Hello guys!!

I just heard from GrovinMastiff's brother that he weren't able to record the drums for us.
So the final version will be this one:

 Are_You_Ready.mp3 ( 10.62MB ) : 2719

A big THANK YOU to everyone involved. It's been a great pleasure working with all of you guys! I'm really looking forward to start another collab!!


PS. As you might already know, we are now making a video for the song:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=7553&hl=

Posted by: jeff Oct 11 2007, 01:38 AM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Oct 10 2007, 06:35 PM)

Hello guys!!

I just heard from GrovinMastiff's brother that he weren't able to record the drums for us.
So the final version will be this one:

 Are_You_Ready.mp3 ( 10.62MB ) : 2719

A big THANK YOU to everyone involved. It's been a great pleasure working with all of you guys! I'm really looking forward to start another collab!!


PS. As you might already know, we are now making a video for the song:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=7553&hl=

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 11 2007, 02:07 AM

That totally rocks Marcus - great concept, great execution, great guitarwork from all, cool vocals from Kris and an amazing mix! This is truly a GMC theme tune, can't wait to see it on Youtube when the video is done, and the final credits say:

"This video was written and performed by GMC students and instructors - why not pay us a visit at guitarmasterclass.net"

what an incredible advertisement!

Posted by: Iluha Oct 11 2007, 02:51 AM

Been fun!, next time I'll finally be able to input some guitar work as well, now that I got a recording gear! ^^

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 11 2007, 10:36 PM

QUOTE (lavendell @ Oct 11 2007, 01:35 AM)

Hello guys!!

I just heard from GrovinMastiff's brother that he weren't able to record the drums for us.
So the final version will be this one:

 Are_You_Ready.mp3 ( 10.62MB ) : 2719

A big THANK YOU to everyone involved. It's been a great pleasure working with all of you guys! I'm really looking forward to start another collab!!
PS. As you might already know, we are now making a video for the song:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=7553&hl=

Posted by: Vinod Oct 14 2007, 02:10 PM

WOW Great piece of work from all you guys
(I'm sad that I missed this great job)

Posted by: visi0n Oct 17 2007, 06:11 AM

WOW !!!!! This is just AWESOME !!! Great work you guys .... i think im too late for this .. ??

Posted by: steve25 Oct 23 2007, 10:02 PM

Don't worry if you missed this there will be other great collabs to be a part of in the future i've no doubt .