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GMC Forum _ GEAR & PRODUCTION _ High-end Modelling Amp
Posted by: Raph Oct 29 2009, 10:53 PM
Hey guys, I'm not suggesting that I have money (I'm broke) to buy a high end modelling amp, but could you give me a few suggestions so that I can be informed of what's out there and to admire and dream that I own one. Cheers.
Posted by: Staffy Oct 29 2009, 11:08 PM
If You mean a computer modelling amps, check my article series in the WIKI, there's a lot of them, even some free that sounds good !!!! http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/index.php/Computer_Guitar_Amp_Simulators
Good Luck!
//Staffay
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Oct 29 2009, 11:13 PM
Hmm, by modeling you mean modeling only one company tones (like Mesa made new amp that models all kinds of tones from previous models, or Triaxis preamp for example; or Marshall made JVM amps), or you mean digital modeling amp that can emulate all kinds of different sounds?
EDIT the second ones would be Line 6 Vetta head and combo editions and Fender Cyber Twin, both go around 1600$).
Posted by: ZakkWylde Oct 29 2009, 11:15 PM
Propably the best modeler out there: AxeFX
Posted by: Raph Oct 29 2009, 11:18 PM
I'm basically looking for the functionality of desktop modelling software, such as Guitar Rig 4, put into an amplifier. So yes Ivan, one that can emulate different sounds and models.
AxeFX looks AWESOME!
Good Luck!
//Staffay
Cool, could use them in recording situations. Thanks Staffay.
Posted by: OzRob Oct 29 2009, 11:20 PM
+1
In its own league.
Posted by: Muris Varajic Oct 29 2009, 11:42 PM
In its own league.
Yeah, I thought it was preamp, not amp...
Posted by: ZakkWylde Oct 29 2009, 11:45 PM
It is a preamp but combined with a good poweramp you have the (possibly) best modeling amp
Posted by: Muris Varajic Oct 29 2009, 11:57 PM
Of course.
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Oct 30 2009, 12:06 AM
If you need good software modelers, perhaps you should consider UAD DSP card for PC, they have some great guitar plugs as I heard. I'm sure Muris can tell a thing or two about it.
If not, Amplitube Fender, and possibly Guitar Rig 4 are something to consider.
Posted by: tonymiro Oct 30 2009, 12:13 AM
H&K Zen Tera - of the high end modeling amps it is arguably the best available but costs, I think, about 2500Euros.
Before the Zen Tera there was quite a nice transistor one from Yamaha, the 1000 I think, but that wasn't really a modeler.
Below the Zen you're really in to the territory of amps like the Vetta, which really aren't as good. As Muris says the Fractal is really a pre-amp and if you want to start to include those then the territory opens up a bit again.
Posted by: MickeM Oct 30 2009, 12:00 PM
Digidesign evelen rack, $900.
Posted by: Staffy Oct 30 2009, 12:30 PM
But this works just for Pro Tools, or am I wrong ???
Posted by: audiopaal Oct 30 2009, 12:49 PM
I looked at that as well, but I think it's Pro Tools only
Or is it? Anyone..?
Posted by: MickeM Oct 30 2009, 01:18 PM
I though the Rack wasn't, but with two hesitant voices we're now three. A quier.
Posted by: tonymiro Oct 30 2009, 01:33 PM
From Digi's promo blurb:
'...Digidesign Eleven Rack On Stage
Eleven Rack also rocks onstage as a standalone amp tone and effects signal processor...'
which indicates that you don't need to run the Eleven rack hooked up to PT. It does come with a copy of PTLE though.
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Oct 30 2009, 02:11 PM
Is the Eleven rack then a preamp as well?
Posted by: Muris Varajic Oct 30 2009, 02:38 PM
Yup, plug in working as preamp.
Posted by: JVM Oct 30 2009, 05:36 PM
Why haven't I heard of axe-fx before? Paired with their reactor amp it sounds like it could be a really cool combination.
Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Oct 30 2009, 06:50 PM
Wow Axe-fx looks great! It seems like a good choice if paired with a good poweramp.
Posted by: OzRob Oct 31 2009, 04:43 AM
Axe-Fx is the bomb. I honestly don't believe it has any competition.
For the initial post, think about a dedicated modelling pre-amp (like the Axe) and a full range amp - such as an Atomic, Roland keyboard amp or Traynor K-4. A full-range amp does not alter the colour of the modellling which will mean models will sound like they're meant to.
Check out the Axe-FX: http://www.fractalaudio.com/experience.html
And the Traynor (with only a GT-10): http://www.youtube.com/user/extremevideopro#p/u/0/G5FS6gRP1Dc
Now......imagine them together!
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