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Muris Varajic
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That's another cool progression and scale choice there Eddie,
as long as it sounds ok,you're on good track. smile.gif
You said it well,staying on F doesn't resolve the piece,
gives it more tension. wink.gif

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eddiecat
Feb 24 2008, 11:33 AM
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Ok Muris, this is just an idea of what we talked about.
I played A Ionian over the Amaj7 chord
and then C Ionian over the Fmaj chord but modulating at the end in F Ionian.
Is it correct? blink.gif
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Muris Varajic
Feb 24 2008, 02:15 PM
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I would prefer to say in C Ionian over Fmaj7,that Bb adds some de-stability to whole sound imho.
But I can not say that it's wrong or correct,
music theory is there just to explain what we are playing,that's all. smile.gif
If you like it,you keep it,that's your music Eddie. wink.gif

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Feb 24 2008, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 24 2008, 02:15 PM) *
I would prefer to say in C Ionian over Fmaj7,that Bb adds some de-stability to whole sound imho.
But I can not say that it's wrong or correct,
music theory is there just to explain what we are playing,that's all. smile.gif
If you like it,you keep it,that's your music Eddie. wink.gif


I see what you mean with that Bb, and listening to it now I think you are right,
it would be better to stick to C Ionian.
So, in other words, the scale we choose to use
on a given chord depends on our taste?
I mean, in this case the second half plays an Fmaj7 with an F in the bass,
so in theory both F Ionian (I) and C Ionian (IV) would be "correct" or "possible", right?
So is it just up to our taste which one we choose?
Thank you.

Oh! I almost forgot to ask you: why did you suggest
that I replace that C maj7 with an Fmaj7?
Was there something particular you wanted me to notice?
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Muris Varajic
Feb 24 2008, 07:24 PM
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Just like that,you fit it to your taste,that's all about music. smile.gif

I think I answered to that Cmaj7 question above somewhere.
Cmaj7 kind a resolves it while with Fmaj7 is sounds more smooth,kind of.
Actually it sounds more Lydian,to be precise. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 24 2008, 07:24 PM) *
Just like that,you fit it to your taste,that's all about music. smile.gif

I think I answered to that Cmaj7 question above somewhere.
Cmaj7 kind a resolves it while with Fmaj7 is sounds more smooth,kind of.
Actually it sounds more Lydian,to be precise. biggrin.gif


Oooh! I think I got it!
When I play C Ionian over those two Fmaj7 chords with the bass in F
as a matter of fact I'm playing F Lydian! (they share the same notes)
Right?

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Muris Varajic
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Yep,that's F Lydian,masked as C Ionian. wink.gif

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QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 24 2008, 09:24 PM) *
Yep,that's F Lydian,masked as C Ionian. wink.gif


Sorry for being so slow,
but these are my first steps into the world of chords and modes!
Only now I understand how many hints you gave me!
But I'll keep working hard...
Thank you

Eddie

P.S.: I'll be back soon with more dumb questions!

Good night

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Muris Varajic
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Those are NOT dumb questions at all Eddie,keep asking,
I'm glad to help,keep diving into sea of theory! smile.gif

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Hey Muris!
Thanks so much for that Jazz Swing Rhythm lesson!
I can't play it, but I love the fact that you always put the root note of the chords
as the lowest note, it makes it a lot easier to study how they are constructed (intervals etc.)
and it's great to start getting into different tricky extended chords/shapes.
BTW, I'm having a great time pretending to understand! laugh.gif

Would be great to have more extended in future lessons (maybe in your modal riffing series?)

Thank you, this is great fun!
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Muris Varajic
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Glad you like it Eddie,
I'll surely try to provide more lessons of that kind. smile.gif

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Hy Muris! Eddie here.
Can I ask you if there's a reason why you chose
not to play the 5th of the Bmin7th chord in your Swing Lesson?

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QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 24 2008, 02:15 PM) *
I would prefer to say in C Ionian over Fmaj7,that Bb adds some de-stability to whole sound imho.
But I can not say that it's wrong or correct,
music theory is there just to explain what we are playing,that's all. smile.gif
If you like it,you keep it,that's your music Eddie. wink.gif

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (eddiecat @ Mar 16 2008, 05:48 PM) *
Hy Muris! Eddie here.
Can I ask you if there's a reason why you chose
not to play the 5th of the Bmin7th chord in your Swing Lesson?

Thank you, Eddie


Not sure where Eddie,think I played 5th unsure.gif

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QUOTE (Muris @ Mar 16 2008, 07:16 PM) *
Not sure where Eddie,think I played 5th unsure.gif


The 5th on the A string before switching to B7/+5/-9.

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (eddiecat @ Mar 17 2008, 07:35 AM) *
The 5th on the A string before switching to B7/+5/-9.

Eddie


Ahh,but I'm playing 5th on B string 7th fret,index finger is doing a bare.
Right? huh.gif

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This is so hard!

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (eddiecat @ Mar 17 2008, 08:31 PM) *
This is so hard!

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What Eddie,you mean that grip with thumb and small bare with index?

Just needs bit of practicing,take your time. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Muris @ Mar 18 2008, 02:58 AM) *
What Eddie,you mean that grip with thumb and small bare with index?

Just needs bit of practicing,take your time. smile.gif



The whole thing is hard, Muris.
The grips are so different from what I was practicing (basic shapes, all strings),
and the sound is hard. When I listen to some of these chords one by one
they sound strange to my ear, but together they are lovely!
Another hard thing is to imagine how you figured out the whole progression... blink.gif
But it's a great lesson, and I can't wait to start the solo part!

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Muris Varajic
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I see what you mean Eddie and I agree with you.
Those aren't simplest chord and progression is bit complex as well.
But it comes with time,trust me.
When I was at your stage of playing I was playing
only majors,minors,power chords and few 7th chords. smile.gif
Good thing is that you're interested!

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