Really fascinating. What do you thing about that?
Well, nearly everything gets a pinch harder to learn as we get older and our neurons are in place and get stubborn about reorganizing. "impossible" is a bit too absolutist for me, I'd say it's "very very very hard" to learn perfect pitch as an adult. But I wouldn't say "impossible". Nor would I say it's impossible to learn guitar as an adult, we have several students here who didn't start playing until well in to adulthood. LAURENT comes to mind and he's become quite a fine player and started from scratch as an adult.
Do children have a neurological advantage in terms of learning? SURE!!! It's built in to us so that we can adapt to whatever language is being spoken around us. Learning anything when you are in the "sponge" stage of development is easier. But take heart, the brain can always learn new skills, even if you have to push your way through it a bit. It just takes a defiant refusal to accept defeat
I was diagnosed with severe dyslexia as a child and several guitar teachers told my parents that I was simply "Unteachable" and to find something else for me to focus on. I didn't want to hear that so I just didn't listen. Instead, I went about learning how to teach myself. I listened to music I liked and tried to find the notes on the guitar that matched, this trained my ear. I Cut bits out of guitar magazines to learn scales. I did whatever I could. 10 years in, I was able to take classical guitar lessons in college. But before that time it would have been a little useless. I had to learn how to learn as my brain was just different. Everyone has something to overcome, adulthood, dyslexia, something. It's just about persistence. As is pretty much everything in life
Todd
I think perfect pitch is a gift we get or not. We can develope our pitch detection as musicians even if we don't have the gift but...the people I know that have perfect pitch...has always had it and that's a little different
We learned the alternate method in college. You have to memorise intervals.Once you get an A or any note, then from there you can find the others. It takes years to get fast at it but its doable.
Children have billions more brain cells than adults, waiting in reserve to be used or not. If you use them you keep them if you don't you lose them.
Countries where the language uses more different pitches (such as Chinese) tend to be better with perfect pitch than more monotone languages.
people with perfect pitch are boring..... when you play with them, your guitar is always out of tune about a 10th..... boring
Cheers
Laurent
I still haven't found a good reason to have perfect pitch, unless you can't afford a tuner.
Relative pitch is what matters - and it can be achieved at any age!
My teacher was perfect-pitch and he was from Azerbaijan. The native music there and Turkey involves heavy micro-tonality.
The people who has perfect-pitch and complain about micro adjustment are just being a jerk simple as that
Good point about microtonality Many forms of Music in middle east especially, and parts of asia, use microtonal scales and then the instruments bend the microtones further, sometimes hitting the next tone, sometimes not and on purpose. Music built on blues/major/minor scales has a lot more give and take to it.
You can get a lot out of having relative pitch when playing most styles of rock/pop/punk/metal/blues/etc. It's when you start getting in to microtonal instruments and compositions, perfect pitch can come in really handy I don't have perfect pitch myself but I've always had a good sense of harmony/melody as I learned to play by ear. Playing by ear sure does help one developing the ear imho. You sorta have to develop your ear or you can't get very far
It's not that you can "get away" with "only" relative pitch - relative pitch is actually superior than perfect pitch. What matters in music harmony wise, is the creative use of intervals - and for that perfect pitch does not help at all.
Well yeah. The answer to the question posed in the video: "If perfect pitch can be taught, why don't music schools teach it?" is simple: because there is no benefit to having it. It's an entertaining parlor trick, but it's not a particularly useful skill for a musician.
Well, they do hear/identify complicated chords better but again thats also do-able for non-perfect pitch.
On entry exams here the standard is 4 note chords, they press a chord and wants the student to sing the notes from lowest to highest. After college education he/she is expected to give the note names/write them down (dictation in english?) realtivly easy.
Not sure about 4 but I'm sure anyone with basic education and enough excersise can do 3 if he/she can play intermediate level guitar.
One with perfect pitch (still needs practice) can go to 8 or 10, so think (modern) classical music or advanced jazz they can follow or analyze the music much easier.This brings ease and speed for composing, I do consider this as an advantage but its not about making any better music than other. Hell, if one works harmony well they don't even need to hear the music they compose
I think having perfect pitch would drive me nuts. Can you imagine the irritation you would encounter listening to some of the classics that were recorded 2% faster onto vinyl in order to fit one more song?
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/records-that-are-speeded-up-or-slower-off-pitch-is-there-a-list.401085/
Ignorance is bliss
There's that thankfully, relative pitch is a very handy thing when playing music and a bit easier to learn than perfect pitch. Thankfully
Todd
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