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Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 02:44 PM
Hoi guys, I have a budget of about 1000$ (about 7000kr or 600£) to buy a new guitar. Been saving for a long time. :-)
I've been thinking about a Fender Deluxe (American or Mexican) or buying an Ibanez.
These are some of the "tips" I got this far:
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=511145X (question: this item has been discontinued; does this mean they don't sell it any more?)
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=518115X
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-Prestige-Series-RG2550Z-Electric-Guitar?sku=515738 (I don't like the colours on this one, but people say it's the best one.. I want more feelings to the colours of the guitar, just white or black feels abit cold to me).
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Deluxe-Players-Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar?sku=511597
This is probally the one I like the most in colours and such; but to buy such a guitar here in Sweden would cost me alot of money.. and if I order it I can't try it out. So anyone ever played this guitar and know how it feels?
Any of you guys here have any additional tips or words to add? :-)
Thanks alot in advance,
Fredrik
Posted by: Rooks Oct 13 2008, 02:49 PM
Whoa hard to choose. If you like Ibanez you should check out the new RG special edition http://www.aage.dk/shoppingsystem/vare.asp?varenr=49153 only 4000 DKK, I really like that one anyway 
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 02:51 PM
Looks really great.. but I don't really think the colours and finish are/is my style. Here's me playing one of my songs:
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5e3O11s9w
Posted by: besip Oct 13 2008, 02:56 PM
hey i'm was also fan of ibanez 2500Z
but later i'm was try Ibanez SV 5470...and i'm have to say this is great axe...it's little more expensive{around 1299$} but i'm belive they be go down with this price on chrismas time...if i'm buy ibanez thats will be 5470 
if 
good luk with choose man 
Posted by: Rooks Oct 13 2008, 02:57 PM
Whoa really nice playing .. Feel like practicing now .
Posted by: Gus Oct 13 2008, 03:03 PM
I can not see your headstock, but I assume it's Fender.
So, tone-wise I think it makes sense to add something else to your library (a guitar with a different soul).
For your style of playing, you should probably try a Ibanez with H-S-H pickup configuration. Perhaps the SV 5470 mentioned by besip.
This is another one within your budget http://www.eskildsen.dk/ShowProduct.aspx?productId=25707
I don't know how it compares to the 2500z model you sent. I was trying more expensive models (rgt320q, JEM, ...)
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Oct 13 2008, 03:03 PM
I must admit that I like the last link the most. I'm not a fan of Ibanez guitars so I'd go for a Fender and I prefer the last link Fender
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 03:08 PM
So, tone-wise I think it makes sense to add something else to your library (a guitar with a different soul).
For your style of playing, you should probably try a Ibanez with H-S-H pickup configuration. Perhaps the SV 5470 mentioned by besip.
This is another one within your budget http://www.eskildsen.dk/ShowProduct.aspx?productId=25707
I don't know how it compares to the 2500z model you sent. I was trying more expensive models (rgt320q, JEM, ...)
I'm sure it's great guitar that'd suit me alot soundwise.. but I don't like those "plastic" looking colours very much. They're alittle bit too 'heavy' for me. =)
Great tips guys, keep 'em comming!
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Oct 13 2008, 03:10 PM
Great tips guys, keep 'em comming!
Why don't you pick up a cheap Fender Mexican Strat and stick some Fender Texas Special pick ups in it. That is what I'd do. Sounds incredible.
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 03:13 PM
Hmm, I don't really know much about "modding" and such. Is this hard to do?
And do you know of any American corps exporting guitars to Sweden? Seeing those guitars are pretty cheap in USA. (649$ in USA; here in Sweden they go for about 1200$).
Posted by: MickeM Oct 13 2008, 03:13 PM
You could get away with half of that and have the coolest guitar - If you're in Stockholm you can go to Nysses shop (Ugglas old guitarist) and get a Tokai or a MIJ strat
Posted by: Rooks Oct 13 2008, 03:13 PM
Well I played one of these Fenders and it's one of my favorite guitars. But it would bust your budget a bit.. Anyhow its amaazing to play and not only for blues/jazz while looking old school.
http://www.aage.dk/shoppingsystem/vare.asp?varenr=39849
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 03:14 PM
Links or pictures? :-D
I'm going to Stockholm in about 2 weeks. Where can I find this shop?
Thanks alot guys. :-)
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Oct 13 2008, 03:14 PM
And do you know of any American corps exporting guitars to Sweden? Seeing those guitars are pretty cheap in USA. (649$ in USA; here in Sweden they go for about 1200$).
You can get a Mexican Strat cheap in Sweden easily I'd imagine. They are cheap in every country I've ever been to and changing pick ups is extremely easy but a shop would do it for barely anything if you bought the guitar and pick ups from them. To get a cheap American Strat go on the ebay version for Sweden and do a seach for worldwide shippers and it will include Americans that are willing to ship to Sweden and these should turn out to be a lot less.
It's how I get guitars cheaply.
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 03:21 PM
It's how I get guitars cheaply.
http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=350106017523
Found this one. But it's an older version; and the colours are abit boring but beutiful.
http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=110296283967
And this one doesn't look very hot.
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Oct 13 2008, 03:25 PM
Found this one. But it's an older version; and the colours are abit boring but beutiful.
http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=110296283967
And this one doesn't look very hot.
Not really as that is shipped from UK and guitars are as overpriced here as they are in Sweden. If you found that guitar in USA it would cost a lot less. It would take less time to get to you from UK though obviously and for a guitar that's fairly cheap anyway you wont be saving as much as you would if your budget was $2000 so you just gotta search round. If you can't find it cheaper on a Swedish online site for the same guitar then you may as well go for it.
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 03:31 PM
Yea, but I don't like the colours; and I don't really want to take a chance on the internet when I don't like how the guitar looks.
I don't really about how long it would take to ship the guitar to me. Any American shops that ship Fenders to Sweden?
Thanks again hehe.
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Oct 13 2008, 03:33 PM
I don't really about how long it would take to ship the guitar to me. Any American shops that ship Fenders to Sweden?
Thanks again hehe.
Could always get one like this
http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=330278093959
There are no American shops that send to Sweden as you aren't allowed as a shop to do it as Fender wont allow exporting their guitars.
Or
http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=110298143442
Posted by: MickeM Oct 13 2008, 03:45 PM
I'm going to Stockholm in about 2 weeks. Where can I find this shop?
Thanks alot guys. :-)
www.nysse.com
Take the pendel to Karlberg and walk a few hundered meters or take the tube directly to St Eriksplan and you're there.
Like OC says, they don't. You could try eBay shops though as they might.
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 04:01 PM
OK, found this guitar:
http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=200254807477
It'd cost me about 6800kr which is 2000kr cheaper than here in Sweden.
But that one is a "Lone Star" deluxe and not "Players" strat. Whats the difference?
Posted by: ztevie Oct 13 2008, 04:17 PM
I would think this is a better guitar, and the money is practically the same...? Sure you can lower the price some too...
http://www.vendolin.se/Annonce_Detail.asp?rub=&annonceid=5483144
Posted by: Jose Mena Oct 13 2008, 04:21 PM
http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=200254807477
It'd cost me about 6800kr which is 2000kr cheaper than here in Sweden.
But that one is a "Lone Star" deluxe and not "Players" strat. Whats the difference?
Looks nice, I love strats, since you are already a strat player, you would probably feel more comfortable with a strat.
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 04:32 PM
http://www.vendolin.se/Annonce_Detail.asp?rub=&annonceid=5483144
Looks great.. perhaps I should think about that one.
How much should I cough up with? 6.5k?
Yea, but I don't know how it differs from the Deluxe Players strat. Anyone who knows? :-)
Thanks again guys!!
Posted by: ztevie Oct 13 2008, 05:00 PM
How much should I cough up with? 6.5k?
Hard to say... He did change the pickups on it, which is a BIG +. Air Norton is superb in the neck position, Air Zone I've never tried... Edge Pro bridge is also first class. This is indeed a nice guitar, but if you're used to Strats, there is quite some difference between them.
But if you like the feel of Ibanez thin necks, this is for sure a mean shredding machine!
The best is if you could go there and try it first. It seems to be in Uddevalla, but I don't know where in Sweden you live?
I don't know about the price, but it seems like a fair price to me, but you could always try to lower it some... Not too low, you might piss him off and he won't sell it to you?
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 08:16 PM
But if you like the feel of Ibanez thin necks, this is for sure a mean shredding machine!
The best is if you could go there and try it first. It seems to be in Uddevalla, but I don't know where in Sweden you live?
I don't know about the price, but it seems like a fair price to me, but you could always try to lower it some... Not too low, you might piss him off and he won't sell it to you?
Yea ok sound pretty nice.
I live in Gävleborg (Söderhamn). I'm going to check hitta.se to see where Uddevalla is; doesn't sound too far away. :-D
Thanks again everyone.
Posted by: kjutte Oct 13 2008, 08:24 PM
I've been thinking about a Fender Deluxe (American or Mexican) or buying an Ibanez.
These are some of the "tips" I got this far:
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=511145X (question: this item has been discontinued; does this mean they don't sell it any more?)
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=518115X
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-Prestige-Series-RG2550Z-Electric-Guitar?sku=515738 (I don't like the colours on this one, but people say it's the best one.. I want more feelings to the colours of the guitar, just white or black feels abit cold to me).
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Deluxe-Players-Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar?sku=511597
This is probally the one I like the most in colours and such; but to buy such a guitar here in Sweden would cost me alot of money.. and if I order it I can't try it out. So anyone ever played this guitar and know how it feels?
Any of you guys here have any additional tips or words to add? :-)
Thanks alot in advance,
Fredrik
Both a fender and ibanez is very versatile, so any choosing will be uber.
Posted by: Noangels Oct 13 2008, 08:31 PM
That 1st deluxe guitar in your link looks superb!hwhat a beutifull instrument.
Ibanez or fender?Both great makes but I kind of prefer the feel of american strats-they seem to have soul
Not saying Ibanez are bad,there far from it!Some of my all time favourite players use Ibanez(timmons/gilbert)
Posted by: mattacuk Oct 13 2008, 08:43 PM
There is only one guitar there I would seriously consider buying, and thats the Ibanez 2550Z, it is a simply awsome guitar.
The fender is a good guitar too, just in a very different way. The question is, do you want drive an old classic or modern super weapon? make no mistake, that Ibanez is AWSOME !
http://www.vendolin.se/Annonce_Detail.asp?rub=&annonceid=5483144
that is also an awsome guitar
Posted by: Prantare Oct 13 2008, 08:47 PM
The 2550Z would cost me 12955kr here in Sweden .. which is about 1900$.. which is WAY over my budget. :-P
This is the cheapest that guitar that would suit me best I think:
http://www.thomann.de/se/fender_deluxe_player_strat_3csb_rw.htm
This or the Ibanez in the ad (they're about the same price).
Can't belive guitars are so damn expensive in Sweden compared to USA. :-/
Posted by: ztevie Oct 13 2008, 09:08 PM
You should really ask him for more and better pics, ask him for the serial number and tell him to be straight up with any flaws and dings this guitar might have. The ideal is of course if you actually could travel to try it out yourself, the second best if you know someone in that area who could go there check it out for you. The least desireable alternative is to buy it without anyone looking at it or trying it first.
Oh by the way, Uddevalla is near Göteborg.. So you'll have a few miles to travel...
For what ever it's worth, here are some reviews of that Ibanez...:
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar/product/Ibanez/RG2620QM+Prestige/10/1
Some other nice options(according to me that is, I aint no Fender guy ):
http://diskantforum.se/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10575
http://diskantforum.se/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5073
http://vendolin.se/Annonce_Detail.asp?rub=&annonceid=5484964
Posted by: Guitar1969 Oct 13 2008, 11:16 PM
Youd be better off getting the Fender Highway 1 rather than Mex - Its the cheapest American Made Strat they have(Parts are Mexi I believe but the whole thing is quality controlled and assembled in the US, so its constructed better).
I looked at the American Strat deluxe a few years back but didn't like the colors either, so I bought a used Fender Plus, and I love it - I have Lace Hot Gold Pups in it so its got more bite.
But I had heard soemthing recently that the latest American Strats (As of this year) are really good(Some changes were made I believe to the pups or the wiring) - You might want to look into it a bit on Fender Forums - I wouldn't worry too much about the color - if you get a good basic color(like black), you can change out the pickguard easily and get it to look unique(As I did). My personal opinion is everybody needs at least 1 strat in their collection as its a very versatile guitar, and it obviously has the following and history to prove it. It is also something that you know will keep some value for many years(speaking American made).
Posted by: kjutte Oct 15 2008, 05:27 AM
This is the cheapest that guitar that would suit me best I think:
http://www.thomann.de/se/fender_deluxe_player_strat_3csb_rw.htm
This or the Ibanez in the ad (they're about the same price).
Can't belive guitars are so damn expensive in Sweden compared to USA. :-/
Guitarbusiness is bad in USA. I got my 2570Z for 900 dollars
Shipping costed like 3-400 too. (taxes included)
Posted by: Prantare Oct 15 2008, 06:25 AM
Shipping costed like 3-400 too. (taxes included)
How do you actually order the guitar that way?
Posted by: MickeM Oct 15 2008, 08:01 AM
Here's an odd ball http://www.blocket.se/vi/18441020.htm?ca=11_s
I can recommend that guitar because I own one myself, not as ugly as this orange one, mine is neon green I'm guessing it's made in the late 80's and early 90's (I got mine in -91) and it's produced in Japan and great quality. I've routed mine so I have it H-S-H but you could easily put Fender pickups in it if you'd want a twangy sound.
A great guitar for no money, ugly though. I know it doesn't fit your demands for a Fender or an Ibanez but knowing it's well built I think it can still give some new Fenders and Ibanez guitars a run for quality I thought I'd mention it.
Posted by: Noangels Oct 15 2008, 08:08 AM
yeahh charvels are realy nice looking axes,I have a dark green metalic fusion that was made in Japan around about the same time-I also owned a Jackson pro made in japan about the same time too in metalic black-for their price there realy good and the build quality is great
The american Jackson lines are great axes too,well worth the money
Posted by: Prantare Oct 15 2008, 12:54 PM
Well; I think I'll order a Fender Player Deluxe from Thomann.de (a sunburst one). It goes for about 6400kr which is way better than what I'd have to pay for it here in Sweden (about 8900kr).
Posted by: Fran Oct 15 2008, 01:31 PM
Just a thought, you already have a Mexican Fender strat (haven't you?), why not save a bit more and get a more "definitive" guitar later, such as an american deluxe strat?
http://www.thomann.de/es/fender_american_deluxe_fat_stratrw3cs.htm
Just a thought. I know it might not be what you want to hear if you are decided to buy a new guitar now. Then again if you reallyt think that the model you mentioned is a major improvement over your current axe, then go for it.
Posted by: Prantare Oct 15 2008, 01:40 PM
I get what you're saying; but I'm not so sure that the difference is that big. My MIM is way better than most Americans I tested. But if you're sure that the quality of those 2 instruments differ; then your idea is something I will follow.
Found this guitar on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-American-Deluxe-Ash-Stratocaster-Cherry-Burst-NR_W0QQitemZ350110135512QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350110135512&_trkparms=72:1205|39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
However, it's not Rosewood.. which I wanted. And if it doesn't gain too much in price I could probally get it for about 1100$ with shipping and all that (which is like 6500kr, about the same as an mexican deluxe from Thomann.de). Do you think it's worth it?
Posted by: Jose Mena Oct 15 2008, 01:50 PM
I have seen this many times, Mexican strats that play better than an American, people say I am crazy, sometimes is not price what makes a guitar better.
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Oct 15 2008, 01:55 PM
I think the problem between Mexican Strats and American Strats is that all American Strats reach a certain quality and it's a pretty small region whereas Mexican Strats have much more variance in quality ranging from really awful to some that are better than the American ones. The only problem is buying one without trying it out is risky whereas an American Strat will always be a at a certain high standard.
Posted by: Fran Oct 15 2008, 02:12 PM
I agree Prantare, some MIM can sound great. If your MIM is one of the great sounding ones I wouldn't really consider getting a new strat unless you could try it. I mean your guitar certainly sounds good (your videos prove it, plus you really can play really well).
What I'm trying to say is that if your guitar already sounds better than most american strats you've tried, the chance is slim that getting a new one online will be better, so just make sure that you are choosing the right thing.
I say all this because you already have a strat, and it only would be worth getting a new one if you are sure you will upgrade what you already have. Then again, you probably know much more than I do about strats, so if you are sure, go ahead
Posted by: Prantare Oct 15 2008, 02:13 PM
Yea, you might be right. But an Mexican strat here would cost me about 1400$ if I don't order it (which gives me 30 day return time but I still have to pay shipping). The Americans are way above my budget and there's no chance I can buy one now.
I've been waiting for 2 years to buy a new guitar.. the Mexican I have is awesome, but it has some flaws that make it hard to play, the mics are pretty noisy and I don't think the colours of it suits me (the guitar only cost me 500$ when I bought it in a trip to Thailand).. however, the sound is amazing and it's very comfortable.
Thanks alot Fran! :-)
Posted by: Koopid Oct 15 2008, 05:25 PM
I've been waiting for 2 years to buy a new guitar.. the Mexican I have is awesome, but it has some flaws that make it hard to play, the mics are pretty noisy and I don't think the colours of it suits me (the guitar only cost me 500$ when I bought it in a trip to Thailand).. however, the sound is amazing and it's very comfortable.
Thanks alot Fran! :-)
If you waited 2 years then you can wait a bit longer
If you are going to upgrade then do an actual upgrade, thats my opinion. You have a great MIM, why buy another one? Save one more year and buy something much hotter, or go for that ibanez (http://www.vendolin.se/Annonce_Detail.asp?rub=&annonceid=5483144) so that you have 2 different guitars instead of 2 that are pretty much the same...My 2c
P.S. That Ibanez looks soooo good in the pic...
Posted by: Prantare Oct 15 2008, 05:29 PM
Hmm, you guys got some great ideas rolling.
Yes, I like that Ibanez aswell; but then I'd have to go to GBG to try it out since I have no idea how this Ibanez feels like. My dad would have to follow and then it'd cost about like 2000kr just for traveling.. I'm way more used to Fenders so the feel more secure.
Posted by: Jose Mena Oct 15 2008, 05:32 PM
$1400 for a Mexican strat, how is that possible??
Posted by: Prantare Oct 15 2008, 05:39 PM
Sweden.
Deluxe one though.
Hey.. I got an idea; I could ask someone in the US to buy me an American Deluxe strat and send it to me and I'd give that person the money for the guitar and shipping + some extra. How dangerous could this be?
Posted by: ztevie Oct 15 2008, 05:52 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-American-Deluxe-Ash-Stratocaster-Cherry-Burst-NR_W0QQitemZ350110135512QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350110135512&_trkparms=72:1205%7C39:1%7C66:2%7C65:12%7C240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
However, it's not Rosewood.. which I wanted. And if it doesn't gain too much in price I could probally get it for about 1100$ with shipping and all that (which is like 6500kr, about the same as an mexican deluxe from Thomann.de). Do you think it's worth it?
Then add 30% to those $1100, in customs and tax. Then you suddenly end up at around $1470...
If you have someone you know in USA (some friendly soul here at GMC maybe?), then you could ask them to buy and ship it for you, and write gift or something on the shipping papers, then you would have a chance saving those 30%...
You see, everything you order from inside European Union is tax and customs free, but when you order from outside EU, customs will give you a bill for the extra 30%. Crazy thing is we have to pay 30% on both the thing we pay AND the shipping cost...
Posted by: Prantare Oct 15 2008, 06:02 PM
If you have someone you know in USA (some friendly soul here at GMC maybe?), then you could ask them to buy and ship it for you, and write gift or something on the shipping papers, then you would have a chance saving those 30%...
You see, everything you order from inside European Union is tax and customs free, but when you order from outside EU, customs will give you a bill for the extra 30%. Crazy thing is we have to pay 30% on both the thing we pay AND the shipping cost...
That's crazy.
I asked my mom if we knew any people over there and she told me (which I actually knew but had forgotten) that her friends daughter just a married a guy who owns a musicstore in Brasil. What a coincidence! :-D
I'll talk to her and she if there's any chance to get her sending a "gift" to me. :-)
Posted by: ztevie Oct 15 2008, 06:12 PM
Or, you buy a Japanese made Strat from www.ishibashi.co.jp
I know some people do this because they like the quality of the japanese made, also they save a few bucks, cause everything that is made in Japan is cheap in Japan...
Check: http://www.ishibashi-webshop.jp/shop/c/c104010/
Do not fear the japanese, you can send them email, and they answer with pretty decent english, and I never hear anyone having any problems ordering from there...
Just a thought...
Posted by: MickeM Oct 15 2008, 06:14 PM
I asked my mom if we knew any people over there and she told me (which I actually knew but had forgotten) that her friends daughter just a married a guy who owns a musicstore in Brasil. What a coincidence! :-D
I'll talk to her and she if there's any chance to get her sending a "gift" to me. :-)
Maybe the Crafter Gustavo Guerra signaryre (Idol 2008 winner) comes cheap in Brazil?
Posted by: ChrisVdS Oct 15 2008, 06:40 PM
My choice would go to an Ibanez but that's just me but an S470 would be worth looking at if you still did not buy a guitar yet did not read all the posts The S470 is a great guitar with good specs (ZR bridge, HSH configuration, fast playing neck,...) at a fairly low price same price as a mexican strat. I saw an older model with the Blue moonlight finish i think from 2007 just before they launched the 2008 S series with the 24 fret necks i'm trying to get my hands on one of those but i don't know if they will ship one from the US to Belgium since it's the only shop that i could find that still has them...
Posted by: Prantare Oct 15 2008, 06:47 PM
Found this cool guitar:
http://www.ishibashi-webshop.jp/shop/g/g310132000/
How much is that in dollars, euros or kronors? :-D
Posted by: MickeM Oct 15 2008, 06:49 PM
http://www.ishibashi-webshop.jp/shop/g/g310132000/
How much is that in dollars, euros or kronors? :-D
use the currency calculator at www.forex.se
Posted by: Prantare Oct 15 2008, 07:07 PM
Wow thats pretty cheap.. how much would it cost to import you think?
Posted by: Jesse Oct 15 2008, 07:10 PM
I saw one like that vintage here in holland for 4.000 euro's! Its stevie style:D
Posted by: kjutte Oct 15 2008, 07:22 PM
Deluxe one though.
Hey.. I got an idea; I could ask someone in the US to buy me an American Deluxe strat and send it to me and I'd give that person the money for the guitar and shipping + some extra. How dangerous could this be?
Get an american one with a humbucker slot at the bridge, and you're good to go.
Posted by: MickeM Oct 15 2008, 07:29 PM
Hard to say, but a very rough estimate is $250 for shipping, 5% customs tax, a small customs free, 1% insurance, 25% VAT om all costs so far (price for guitar, tax, shipping, customs fee). Then delivery from the airport to your home unless you asked DHL to care for the whole transport then the price is baked included.
Check the site whether it says anything about shipping costs. Sometimes it's cheap - because they raised price a bit on the guitar instead.
Posted by: ztevie Oct 15 2008, 08:58 PM
Count roughly as this:
Price for guitar + shipping = Ship price
Ship price * 1,3 = Total price
Total price is what you will pay in the end... I think someone said shipping from ishibashi is somewhere around 1000:-(swedish krona)...
Information in english with email: http://www.ishibashi-music.com/
Used guitars here, Click in E.guitars and put the brand you want to see used guitars in stock of in the first textbox, then click search, some guitars are really cheap: http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/
Posted by: ChrisVdS Oct 15 2008, 09:54 PM
I totally agree all it's missing is the SRV inscription on the pickguard but it's a sweet looking guitar, have allot of fun with it
Posted by: Prantare Oct 16 2008, 07:19 AM
So you guys think the playability will be nice? :-)
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