Youtube + Guitar Lessons=illegal, They almost took tabs away from us - now they're heading for the v |
It may technically be a different song, but copyright includes the exclusive right of the copyright holder to create "derivative works" too. Which includes adapting a novel to a stage play, transposing a song to a different key - and also (addressing the other common objection) writing tabs which aren't correct - as long as they're "similar enough". Then there's the gray, philosophical zone of determining how many notes (or intervals) to change before it's not derivative anymore. 
Of course transposing a song a semitone up makes all the notes different, but saying it's a different song won't hold up in court 
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Jul 8 2007, 08:39 PM
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I did not read the entire article linked to or notice that it was on NPR when Kris first posted it here. NPR is notorious for stirring up s***when nothing has or will ever happen and they tend to slant everything to the negative side. I tried to find other stories relating to this article, there were very few and even those referred to the NPR article as its source. While it may be true that youtube is in the process of yanking all lessons that teach popular songs they have not done so yet.
Example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m79m_PXFmJs Maybe some of the lessons they have yanked just crossed a fine line that no one will ever be able to define. Edited for language - Andrew This post has been edited by Andrew Cockburn: Jul 8 2007, 10:16 PM -------------------- Had a guitar hanging, just about waist high, and we are going to play these things until the day we die. |
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Jul 9 2007, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE (blindwillie @ Jul 9 2007, 03:31 AM)  Yey! First ever on GMC?  Sorry, no, I've been busy - there was a whole thread on it on Saturday ... -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Jul 9 2007, 08:50 PM
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This is sad. What next? Will it now be illegal to produce or purchase an electronic device that is specifically designed to slow down songs so that they can be transcribed?
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Jul 9 2007, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (jeff @ Jul 9 2007, 03:50 PM) This is sad. What next? Will it now be illegal to produce or purchase an electronic device that is specifically designed to slow down songs so that they can be transcribed? Yeah, didn't think of that ... I'll bet that if they wanted to the record companies could have a go at applying the Digital Milenium act there - after all, its reverse engineering a song 
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Jul 10 2007, 03:18 AM
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I just checked youtube. Jihad T.V. is still ok as long as you don't sneak in a guitar lesson.
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Jul 10 2007, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (jeff @ Jul 10 2007, 06:42 PM) Convince record companies That part sounds really simple!!! 
-------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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Jul 10 2007, 06:12 PM
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Pavel's right, what benefit is it to them if little GMC has In The Style of Lessons or not?
-------------------- Don't Panic.
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Jul 10 2007, 06:38 PM
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Whoa, youtube is closing all guitar lessons.....
That would include Kris' lessons on youtube? YouTube is gone wild! Kris, somehow i suggest you keep the lessons going on youtube cause thats what caused me to join GMC (other that UG).... After all it would be cool if we had as many members as possible. -------------------- __________________________
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Jul 10 2007, 06:56 PM
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No, they're just taking down lessons which teach sections or passages out of copyrighted songs. Anything else will not be targeted.
-------------------- Don't Panic.
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