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Jun 21 2013, 10:43 AM
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I tried that but those springs only adjust the angle of the floyd rose being pulled down or up, not sideways. Its like the pivot stud on the treble side is deeper inside than the pivot on the bass side. I tried unscrewing the pivot to raise it up, just minor rotations, but it didn't really make much of a difference.
EDIT: Just read this on this page: http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/action.htm QUOTE It is perfectly fine that the bridge is at an angle!! [the treble side lower than the bass]. Wound strings need much more room to oscillate than the fine treble strings. You can run treble action much lower than bass without buzz and is perfectly fine to do.
This post has been edited by sammetal92: Jun 21 2013, 12:24 PM |
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Jun 21 2013, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ Jun 21 2013, 05:43 AM)  I tried that but those springs only adjust the angle of the floyd rose being pulled down or up, not sideways. Its like the pivot stud on the treble side is deeper inside than the pivot on the bass side. I tried unscrewing the pivot to raise it up, just minor rotations, but it didn't really make much of a difference. EDIT: Just read this on this page: http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/action.htm I would like to add on that. When you see a set of strings visually it will be e-o-o-0-O-E with the bass side being heavier you would actually need the tension to be slightly tilted so that you get the same height across all the strings. But this also depends on the trem system. Some of them you can adjusted the trem and the strings individually. Guitars that come to mind are Fenders, PRS, and MusicMan. Where as you get into an original floyd it is the full bridge that needs it to be tilted to achieve the same string heights. I actually don't really see a change on mine from treble to bass on mine, which one is a ZR and the other is I think a Edge Zero 7 pro. After reading Todd's message and looking back at your pictures of the issue, it looks as if you also have the bridge leaning forward slightly, that can cause problems with tuning. I know when I owned my Dean Dime-O-Flame, it had I believe an Original on it, which required it to be pretty much flush with the body. -------------------- Guitars:
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Jun 21 2013, 04:22 PM
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The action of all the strings seems equal when playing, so I guess its fine
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Jun 21 2013, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (sammetal92 @ Jun 21 2013, 09:16 AM) Really?  Because I view it from the side and it seems pretty straight (I mean I made it as straight as I possibly could), and it doesn't really go out of tune when I use the whammy on it, I've checked it with a tuner want me to get some pictures? This is true I'm looking back to front not on the side. Was like what does mine look like took a picture and it came out the same. Just me being stupid! I'm just use to how mine actually sit flat in the body since I like my action so close I can't fit a sheet of paper under it. So mine looks straight where your action is a tad higher.
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Ibanez S770PB (Natural Flat) , Ibanez XPT700 (Chameleon) , Sterling J Richardson Signature , Squire IV Jazz Bass (Sunburst) Gear: Neural DSP Plugins My YouTube Page. |
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Jun 22 2013, 12:41 AM
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Just to clarify
 1.)The Floyd is honestly tilting forward to far. That's problem number one IMHO (it's a forum so some folks may say the love their floyds that way). Fix that problem first. See previous post for details.2.)Having found the right spring tension to level the floyd, take a look at the neck relief (bow/dip in the neck). too much or too little creates issues so you have to find the right spot. Turn the truss 1/4 turn then re examine, then repeat. If it's getting worse, turn the other direction, repeat..... Don't turn until it's crazy tight, you'll snap the truss or strip it  3.)Raise or lower the floyd (side screws facing up on either side) until the buzz abates. You have to find the sweet spot of as little buzz as you like, but low enough to play. 4.)If all this fails, you may need to have your frets leveled. I would not suggest doing this on a friends guitar LASTLY Here is a link to an entire series of vids on setting up your guitar with a floyd. Between the steps above and these vids, you should be in good shape: ) https://www.youtube.com/user/jeffersononetwo?feature=watch Todd QUOTE (sammetal92 @ Jun 21 2013, 05:16 PM) Ah, but the buzz, I don't like the buzz
 Anyway the screws at the back are almost all their way inside the body  I guess I'm just overly paranoid  This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jun 22 2013, 12:42 AM |
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Jun 22 2013, 03:11 AM
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Hey man. Congrats on the guitar. I read your issue and the replies back. It kind of sounds like your little frustrated with what's going on with your tremlo and I know where your coming from every time I buy a guitar I obsess over the set up over the first couple days I play my new axe. Todd's reply sounded like it solved your problem but I would like to say anytime I mess with my set up I go through the whole process, of setting neck bridge and intonation cause its kind of a balancing act. And from what I've learned and practiced in my own hands on set up (I've set up all 5 of my guitars on my own). That it should be done in a specific order. So If i were to mess with my bridge I would do it in this order especially with a new guitar. If I do this incorrectly please someone let me know.
1 I would check the relief on the neck. I do this by using my 6th string as a straight edge by fretting first and 15th then tapping at the 6th to see the bow of the neck. Personally I like almost a straight neck. If there is a lot of relief (forward bow) I tighten the truss rod by going clockwise, bout a quarter turn, then wait maybe 20 min till the neck sets and I repeat this till the neck is as straight as I can get it, then I give it a small turn to the left to loosen the truss rod to put just a bit of relief in the neck. Very little relief as in if I had any less it would be perfect straight, but that's just my preference. Some people say you should loosen the strings when you do this but I keep them tuned and retune to pitch before I repeat the process. But I do small turns everytime. 2 I adjust the bridge height to get a comfortable action for me, you can use a String action gauge But I just eyeball mine and go off feeling. 3 then I set my tremlo. I don't have a Floyd rose, I have fenders and I do not like floating so I bring my tremlo all the way to the body and make it hard tail. But the set up is the same from the picture I saw Todd post. I loosen the strings for this part, don't know if its ok to keep them tuned but as a precaution i loosin. When you make adjustment to the spring it changes the tension and as you retune after a adjustment you will notice the bridge had raised or dropped depending on if you loosened or tightened the springs. When you retune it will show you exactly what your adjustment did. The strings counter act the spring and the tighter the springs are the less the strings pull on it causing the bridge to lay closer to the body. Now cause your bridge is lopsided it sounds to me that one side can be loosened or tightened to balance it. your low e to d has more pull on the bridge maybe so tighten it up a bit? Again I don't have a Floyd rose but seems logical. 4 after I've got everything nice and balanced I set the intonation, to me this is so important and I recheck this every time a put a fresh set of strings on. I take time on each string, I tune open using a good electronic tuner, then I tune at the 12th fret if its flat I move the saddle up if its sharp I move the saddle back, slightly. Retune and repeat till open string and 12th fret are in tune. I check harmonic also and check other frets like 5th and so on, so far it's always been in tune when I make adjustments using 12th fret. On a new guitar I always take a full day to set it up because of letting the neck settle and just setting up by feeling. This post has been edited by dcz702: Jun 22 2013, 05:21 AM |
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Jun 22 2013, 06:06 PM
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Well, I guess its nothing big, whenever I'll go to the music store, I'll hand it over to the tech to see if there's anything that can be done
and thanks for bearing with me  
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