Apple Applications And Software
Fusar
Apr 3 2010, 12:58 AM
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Hi guys smile.gif
I own an iMac for about two years and yesterday my MacBook Pro arrived! As you can see, I like them biggrin.gif
I'm more and more getting involved in music things...before I used my PC's and the iMac mostly to chat, write and postprocess photos. Since I bought my Line Pod 6 GX, I'm more into recording, editing, mixing...but GarageBand is not that satisfying over the time sad.gif so I've decided to buy a software (DAW), but I don't know which. I don't know the differences between Cubase, Reaper, Logic etc

Furthermore, you probably all know apple applications since the iPhone arrived, I simply wanted to ask, which applications (about music or any other thing) our Mac-Users appreciate or recommand biggrin.gif

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Todd Simpson
Apr 3 2010, 01:34 AM
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Good Question! I LOVE Logic. It's just amazing. But the software interface is not that simple and it takes some time. The newest version of Garage Band is quite good and does amp modeling etc. and will let you use your own plugins like POD FARM or my personal Fav AMPLITUDE METAL which is IMHO one of the best guitar modeling plugins ever created. As I'm not a cubase guy I can't help you there but I used to use pro tools which is also very good but also complicated like logic.

So if you've outgrown Garage Band, maybe get Logic Express which is cheaper than Logic Pro but will do everything you need. It's $200 which is amazing considering all the power it has. Here is a link.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB788Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY

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Ruzz
Apr 3 2010, 09:33 AM
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Hey Fusar

Congratulations on your macbook pro!
There are very few things that are different from one DAW to another..
It is basically picking one and learning to use it.
Personally I use Logic Express.

I use alot of music software on my mac!
Here is the list:

Logic Express
- For recording audio

BoinxTV
- For recording video

Final Cut Express
- For mixing the video and audio

Guitar Pro 5
- For tabs and composing

EarMaster Pro
- For some excellent ear training

Transcribe!
- For learning songs by ear (Basically an application where you can slow songs down and not lose pitch)

Amplitube 2 and Amplitube Fender
- For practicing without bothering everyone with an amp

Band-in-a-Box
- For practicing when I am too lazy to find a backing track somewhere on the net

I hope you can use some of these applications yourself smile.gif

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maharzan
Apr 3 2010, 09:59 AM
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Hey Fusar,

Welcome to the mac world! Although you seem to be earlier than me. smile.gif Its been just over 1 year for me and been using MBP all this time. Just love it and happy that at least I don't have to take all those virus and spyware tensions..

Anyway, Garageband should do a great job if you are just practicing and recording stuff. I did that in the beginning. As Todd and Ruzz suggested, if you don't like it, you can just try out Logic Express. Its one great software and many great artists have used it.

If you ask me, I am using Pro Tools LE that came along with Mbox 2 Pro that I got some 2 years back. Its a great software but I just use it to record audio solely.. no hip hop or other synth stuff you know. I am just concentrating on guitar practice at the moment anyway. The drawback is that you have to connect the mbox even if you are not recording and connecting a wire becomes a hassle, you know. smile.gif

Apart from that I got Addictive Drums which I haven't used much though. Just few drum loops. I need to use that often now. biggrin.gif

For video, I use Final Cut Pro academic version. iMovie should do it though. I did use iMovie earlier but syncing audio was just pain in the ass. smile.gif

I don't have any guitar modeler or use it actually. Since I am loving my tube sound so I record direct.

Mac (and software) can really be expensive you know but hope you get the best out of it. smile.gif

Thanks,
Chandra

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Saoirse O'Shea
Apr 3 2010, 12:05 PM
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To decide which is best for you, to me, I think needs an idea of what end you are aiming at - pro/pr-sumer/consumer and what your needs are (number and type of ins and outs). Generally though there are three main music apps specifically for apple: Logic, PT and DP.

Logic has the advantage of being quite tightly integrated with the Mac OS, not least because it's now owned and developed by Apple. The downside is that since Apple took it over no-one is quite sure what Apple intends to do with it it - to keep it as a pro orientated recording/mixing daw or aim for a more consumer orientated and wider market. Logic can be married up well with Apogee and that would give a good consumer-low/mid end 'prosumer' daw.

PT - particularly if you go with the full ProTools software (ie PTHD) rather than the cut down version has an advantage of being an 'industry standard' in the US (much less so in Europe). The disadvantages of PTHD though are the cost - a full PTHD rig is something like 30KUSD (albeit that you don't need a lot of that to get up and running); that the HD hardware is no longer cutting edge, and; although you don't have to use PT hardware it's quite difficult not to. The LE/Lite version of PT is much cheaper and can do pretty much everything a home studio/project studio needs but again it tends to marry you to M-Audio sound cards/interfaces which whilst good are not arguably cutting edge. PTHD will give high-end 'pro-sumer' and up into professional: LE is consumer/low end 'prosumer'. PTHD can also run as a full industry standard professional video dubbing suite (as can Nuendo and Pyramix).

DP - like Logic and PT can run as a full prosumer daw. DP tends to be forgotten about but is as good as the other two and price wise sits between them. AFAIK DP integrates very well with MOTU hardware which then seems to aim it squarely at the lo-mid end 'pro-sumer' market. What MOTU and DP are very good at is location/laptop recording, partly because MOTU make some very good portable audio interfaces.

The main differences between professional and pr-sumer/consumer here are:

stability: professional end apps need to be very stable and recoverable. So a lot of pro end is very tightly integrated to avoid hardware mis-matches and the rig will have only one function - audio. Pro-sumer/consumer hardware is usually more cost conscious and less likely to be matched to, and solely focused on, audio.

number of inputs/outputs: pro end tracking/mixing upwards from 64 i/o

types of ins and outs: Pro will be based on balanced analogue and clocked low jitter digital, often using specialised cables and interfaces like AES2/3 etc. Consumer/pro-sumer is more likely to be unbalanced and using consumer grade interfacing like spdif etc.

and

quality of the AD/DA: high quality, low jitter pro end AD/DA costs a lot of money (we use Prism and Lavry here - an 8/8 i/o Prism costs about 5000USD alone).

Beyond those three there are also apps like Soundblade - a mastering DAW for Apple. Plus most of the pc orientated daws will either run under bootcamp and/or have a Mac version such as Cubase/Nuendo/Samplitude/Reaper.

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Fusar
Apr 8 2010, 10:35 PM
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Wow, very useful thread, it contains lots of informations smile.gif
To begin, I downloaded Reaper (shareware), but it says after 30 days I couldn't use it anymore?
I also downloaded Transcribe and EarTraining, will probably buy them!
Instead of Guitar Pro, I use TuxGuitar, where are the advantages of Guitar Pro?
Logic or Cubase, Addictive Drums, Final Cut, it all sounds very well, but if I invest so much money, I want to be sure on the software biggrin.gif I think I'll continue working with GarageBand for the moment, to get what I need most. I'll also attend a workshop on mixing, this will probably give me a clearer idea.
I plan to buy an Fame SP3 (http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Fame-SP-3-Stage-Ensemble-Rosewood/art-KEY0002399-000)
Am I right:
I can play this keyboard as a normal homekeyboard, without PC.
I can connect through a MIDI-cable, the keyboard to the PC, record the MIDI, export it to notation program and print out the notes I played on the keyboard?
I can connect the keyboard to the PC through an audio interface to get audio data.
I can record Audio data on an SD card and let the data read on a PC.

Thank you for answering wink.gif

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