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Posted by: Becca May 29 2014, 01:18 PM

Thought are so many guitar players out there. All of them plugging away, doing their thing. Yet so many are eclipsed by the super stars out in high profile orbit.
But, like me, you guys must have players that you really like yet are not lauded by the world at large. Players that touch your soul in some way. Well now's your chance to rectify that. How about a list of five of your guitarists that don't seem to have the recognition that you feel they deserve. This is totally subjective of course. There may be players out there that do things better but I am interested in the ones that move you personally. So a list, and maybe a quick chat about what they do and how you found them. Sounds fun, yes?
I will kick off and dive in first then.

1- Zal Cleminson.
Ex Teargas and Nazareth but best known for his work with The Sensational Alex Harvey Band. His crazed clown make up and confrontational live approach made him ideal to work with Alex. He was the one that made want to play in the first place.

2-Ariel Bender.
Mott The Hoople Les Paul jnr abuser. also played with Spooky Tooth as Luther Grovesner. Brash and loud and can bend a string from there to back again.

3-Yarol.
Now here's obscure, unless you're French. Axeman for FFF. French Funk Federation. Love his slide guitar work particularly on Barbes from their live album.

4-Eddie Hazel.
Parliament and Funkadelic maestro. Check out the track Maggot Brain for some tear jerking lead guitar. Sadly no longer with us. RIP Eddie.

5-Keziah Jones.
Amazing funk/slap rhythm work from this singer/player. Highlights of his work include Wisdom Behind The Smile (cash) and Walking Naked Through A Bluebell Field.

Right, that's my list. once I got started it was harder who not to include. Your turn.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 29 2014, 02:52 PM

I find new underrated guitarists all the time at youtube and when I play with my band. It's tricky to define exactly what we mean by underated, if we mean that he doesn't have the recognition that guys like Vai and Gilbert have, I could go with this one from my country. He is popular here, but nobody knows him in other countries...




and the great Pappo!


Posted by: Sensible Jones May 29 2014, 03:43 PM

QUOTE (Becca @ May 29 2014, 01:18 PM) *
5-Keziah Jones.
Amazing funk/slap rhythm work from this singer/player. Highlights of his work include Wisdom Behind The Smile (cash) and Walking Naked Through A Bluebell Field.

I saw him quite a while ago now (must be close to 20 years or so!!) at the Mean Fiddler, incredible show!!
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Posted by: Becca May 29 2014, 04:47 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 29 2014, 01:52 PM) *
I find new underrated guitarists all the time at youtube and when I play with my band. It's tricky to define exactly what we mean by underated, if we mean that he doesn't have the recognition that guys like Vai and Gilbert have, I could go with this one from my country. He is popular here, but nobody knows him in other countries...




and the great Pappo!


Lovely subtle playing there from Luis. Good call. But only two? any more Gabriel?

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ May 29 2014, 02:43 PM) *
I saw him quite a while ago now (must be close to 20 years or so!!) at the Mean Fiddler, incredible show!!
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Hey Jonesy! (may I call you that?) It's possible we were at the same gig then! That was my first encounter with Kez too. This dimunitive figure with a battered acoustic guitar, a hat and huge grin stunned the Fiddler into silence as soon as he played. a great evening as I recall. Hows about your list of players then. Its harder than it seems because I had loads I could have included. Moses Mo from Mothers Finest is one. See what I did there, sneaked another player onto my list.. Bad Becca, Bad!! smile.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones May 29 2014, 05:28 PM

QUOTE (Becca @ May 29 2014, 04:47 PM) *
Hey Jonesy! (may I call you that?) It's possible we were at the same gig then! That was my first encounter with Kez too. This dimunitive figure with a battered acoustic guitar, a hat and huge grin stunned the Fiddler into silence as soon as he played. a great evening as I recall. Hows about your list of players then. Its harder than it seems because I had loads I could have included. Moses Mo from Mothers Finest is one. See what I did there, sneaked another player onto my list.. Bad Becca, Bad!! smile.gif

That sounds like the exact same gig to me!! I was right at the front, Stage Left!
I shall compile a list and post at the weekend sometime, I'll try to find any Youtubes of my suggestions!!

Posted by: SeeJay May 29 2014, 08:36 PM

QUOTE (Becca @ May 29 2014, 12:18 PM) *
4-Eddie Hazel.
Parliament and Funkadelic maestro. Check out the track Maggot Brain for some tear jerking lead guitar. Sadly no longer with us. RIP Eddie.


YES! Maggot Brain is a masterpiece.

I'm a big Dean DeLeo fan (STP). Love his tone and style. He (and his brother Robert DeLeo) come up with some great rock riffs.


Posted by: Becca May 29 2014, 09:26 PM

QUOTE (SeeJay @ May 29 2014, 07:36 PM) *
YES! Maggot Brain is a masterpiece.

I'm a big Dean DeLeo fan (STP). Love his tone and style. He (and his brother Robert DeLeo) come up with some great rock riffs.


Oh Yes, Cracking sound there. Admirable choice CJ, any more?

Posted by: gregc1 May 30 2014, 12:13 AM

I'll actually go with a trio called the Hellecasters. More of a country feel but each has their own style/sound. Really really good 3 part harmony in most of their songs.

Edit for names: Will Ray, Jerry Donahue and John Jorgenson.


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 30 2014, 01:29 AM

QUOTE (SeeJay @ May 29 2014, 04:36 PM) *
YES! Maggot Brain is a masterpiece.

I'm a big Dean DeLeo fan (STP). Love his tone and style. He (and his brother Robert DeLeo) come up with some great rock riffs.




I could see STP live some years ago and I was amazed by the whole band, they were like a modern grunge Zeppelin, the guitar work and tone was killer. It seems that all these years with Army Of Anyone make him polish his playing and sound.

Posted by: SeeJay May 30 2014, 03:13 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 30 2014, 12:29 AM) *
I could see STP live some years ago and I was amazed by the whole band, they were like a modern grunge Zeppelin, the guitar work and tone was killer. It seems that all these years with Army Of Anyone make him polish his playing and sound.



Well, that track is pre-Army of Anyone. wink.gif

The Army of Anyone stuff is great. Had a chance to see them twice and had to miss it. sad.gif


He is great at really orchestrating his guitar tracks. I read that for the Army of Anyone stuff he would record a track, then go back and tune down a few cents. Then record a double. It would be low in the mix, but would thicken up his sound. Always wanted to try that.


Posted by: Becca May 31 2014, 01:31 PM

QUOTE (gregc1 @ May 29 2014, 11:13 PM) *
I'll actually go with a trio called the Hellecasters. More of a country feel but each has their own style/sound. Really really good 3 part harmony in most of their songs.

Edit for names: Will Ray, Jerry Donahue and John Jorgenson.


Thats a new one on me Greg. I really like that track you posted there too. I am discovering lots of new great stuff thanks to GMC members. I ignored Joe bonamassa for ages as I dont like his blues stuff, but was pointed towards Black Country Communion by Bleez and I really like it. Going to look for Hellecasters now. Thanks smile.gif

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ May 29 2014, 04:28 PM) *
That sounds like the exact same gig to me!! I was right at the front, Stage Left!
I shall compile a list and post at the weekend sometime, I'll try to find any Youtubes of my suggestions!!

Excellent Jonesy. I shall look out for your postings. I was close to front too but quite central. Small world smile.gif

Posted by: Hexabuzz May 31 2014, 02:05 PM

LOVE the Hellecasters!

How about Sonny Landreth? I wish I could play slide...


Posted by: Becca May 31 2014, 03:01 PM

QUOTE (Hexabuzz @ May 31 2014, 01:05 PM) *
LOVE the Hellecasters!

How about Sonny Landreth? I wish I could play slide...



Oh Man! ANOTHER one to go on my list. Sheesh have I been living under a rock for the last few years? What a great sound he has with slide. I really like Ricky Medlocke in his Blackfoot days too. I was so disappointed with that album Skynyrd put out, God and Guns. It was like a survivalist manifesto. Bring back Blackfoot I say. Although admittedly they have a Tap like mortality rate, I love their no nonsense head down and boogie approach.

Posted by: Hexabuzz May 31 2014, 03:17 PM

QUOTE (Becca @ May 31 2014, 09:01 AM) *
Oh Man! ANOTHER one to go on my list. Sheesh have I been living under a rock for the last few years? What a great sound he has with slide. I really like Ricky Medlocke in his Blackfoot days too. I was so disappointed with that album Skynyrd put out, God and Guns. It was like a survivalist manifesto. Bring back Blackfoot I say. Although admittedly they have a Tap like mortality rate, I love their no nonsense head down and boogie approach.


I'm glad you're liking Sonny!

Now...

How about Robert Randolph? Although it's pedal steel, it's still guitar, and AMAZING! Check him out


Posted by: Becca May 31 2014, 06:26 PM

QUOTE (Hexabuzz @ May 31 2014, 02:17 PM) *
I'm glad you're liking Sonny!

Now...

How about Robert Randolph? Although it's pedal steel, it's still guitar, and AMAZING! Check him out


Wowsers! That is incredible, just incredible. Never would have thought that a pedal steel could rock like that. Great bass player too. thanks for posting that. Hmmm, my list is getting longer and longer... smile.gif

Posted by: SeeJay Jun 1 2014, 09:42 PM

Randolph is fantastic. Underrated?. . . . I wouldn't say that. I've seen him on a cover of a few magazines and playing on some big festivals.

QUOTE (Hexabuzz @ May 31 2014, 02:17 PM) *
I'm glad you're liking Sonny!

Now...

How about Robert Randolph? Although it's pedal steel, it's still guitar, and AMAZING! Check him out



Posted by: OsbourneOzzyFan Jun 1 2014, 10:51 PM

I can't name many guitarists, but there's a guy named Matthew Mills, who made me want to pick up the guitar. He's a shredder from Virginia and he is very underrated. He is a teacher, which is a good thing, but he deserves better, he should be playing in a famous band. He once played in Forgotten Realm, but they're inactive now.

Posted by: EddieHazelFan Jun 2 2014, 07:33 PM

a Hell yeah for Eddie Hazel from me smile.gif

I Want You (She's so heavy) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEtKbfqyKUw
(a beatles cover but probably my favorite song he did.)

Pray my soul - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcwEEu9yF7w

California Dreamin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqDGTT2OtsQ

We Three - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aClqujs1Uog

so goes the story - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAZiHfNd6k

and how about those outfits lol

Posted by: TeoWulf Jun 2 2014, 08:08 PM

J. D. Simo is pretty awesome, i guess.

Posted by: Hexabuzz Jun 3 2014, 06:50 PM

QUOTE (gregc1 @ May 29 2014, 06:13 PM) *
I'll actually go with a trio called the Hellecasters. More of a country feel but each has their own style/sound. Really really good 3 part harmony in most of their songs.

Edit for names: Will Ray, Jerry Donahue and John Jorgenson.



+1 to the Hellecasters

I'll just add this:


Posted by: PosterBoy Jun 4 2014, 08:39 AM

I've just added him to the cleanest guitarist thread but our old instructor Muris

Complete speculation, but I wonder if he is where he'd like to be in terms of career and how known he is, if he was in America would he be more well known and have more opportunities, does that even matter with the internet nowadays.

Posted by: Becca Jun 4 2014, 12:11 PM

QUOTE (EddieHazelFan @ Jun 2 2014, 06:33 PM) *
a Hell yeah for Eddie Hazel from me smile.gif

I Want You (She's so heavy) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEtKbfqyKUw
(a beatles cover but probably my favorite song he did.)

Pray my soul - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcwEEu9yF7w

California Dreamin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqDGTT2OtsQ

We Three - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aClqujs1Uog

so goes the story - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAZiHfNd6k

and how about those outfits lol

Hey, Welcome to you, fellow Hazel fan! A big shout out to all who appreciate his work. Great choice of tracks too. Any video that features Hazel/Clinton or Collins should have a warning to don Shades before viewing the outfits. smile.gif smile.gif

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Jun 4 2014, 07:39 AM) *
I've just added him to the cleanest guitarist thread but our old instructor Muris

Complete speculation, but I wonder if he is where he'd like to be in terms of career and how known he is, if he was in America would he be more well known and have more opportunities, does that even matter with the internet nowadays.


Bloody Hell!
I actually watched this five minutes ago and have realised I have been sat open mouthed since then.
He has got IT, hasn't he? Superb playing technique, feel, sound... everything.

Posted by: PosterBoy Jun 4 2014, 02:11 PM

And he has loads of lessons here on GMC for you to master Becca biggrin.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Muris-Varajic/

Posted by: Becca Jun 4 2014, 06:20 PM

QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Jun 4 2014, 01:11 PM) *
And he has loads of lessons here on GMC for you to master Becca biggrin.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Muris-Varajic/

I am going straight there. Thanks AGAIN PB smile.gif

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