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Apr 11 2017, 02:47 AM
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Ken you crazy fan of wild, unproven, ufo, conspiracy theories!!!
 Oh wait. Nevermind.QUOTE (klasaine @ Apr 10 2017, 09:31 AM)  You know I don't go for the 'wild, unproven' stuff. As for the cartoon - come on, it's satire. We need more of that. The bad news is that there really is no good solution for Syria IMHO in terms of any foreign Policy position available to us. I just dont' know how we can crack that egg. It seems that the only positive thing we can do is try to provide humanitarian aid. Sadly, the proposed budget cuts way back on that. Even though foreign aid represents about 1 percent of our overall budget  You see, if we bomb Assad, we are acting as ISIS air force. The big fight in Syria is between ISIS and Assad. The KURDS are holding their own and it looks like they are going to end up getting their own country by default. The KURDISH military/militia make use of lots of female soldiers. They do so for a very simple reason. The ISIS guys are told that if they get killed by a woman on the battlefield, they will NEVER get in to paradise. So they see a women with a sniper rifle, and they sorta wet themselves. They are going to defend the turf they have carved out no matter what. So we have Iranian backed Militia and ISIS going up against Russian backed (the primary source of of all of Assad's Military Arms are from Russian Contractors, sadly) This is good news for Russia in that their weapons are on display for the world to see and the 'marketing effect" was expected to raise arms shipments from russia by 7 BILLION DOLLARS. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/syri...6135130398.html "The Kommersant daily said last week, quoting Kremlin insiders and military analysts, that the "marketing effect" of the Syrian conflict will boost Russia's arms sales by up to $7bn. " So Russia is just there to do business. Especially since their economy has been in the tank (pun) ever since the price of oil took a nose dive. No worries, they can make it up on volume discounts in tanks/guns/etc. So on one side you've got the Assad regime, with enough Russian Military Gear to last til the end of time, on the other side you have ISIS (sworn enemy of the west) and various Iranian backed Militia including Hezbollah (classified as a terrorist group according to the CIA and also sworn enemy of the west). We can't really support either side and still keep any kind of "Moral Authority" or "World Leadership" or even dignity, IMHO. All we can really do is try to help the poor souls caught in the middle. The Syrian people. Did sending a few cruise missiles change anything? Nope. Just looked good in the headlines. So I'd say boost the amount of food /medical supplies/etc. as best as we can and try to help any families that are seeking asylum. That's about all we can really do, it seems.
This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Apr 11 2017, 03:06 AM |
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Apr 11 2017, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Apr 10 2017, 06:47 PM) Ken you crazy fan of wild, unproven, ufo, conspiracy theories!!! Oh wait. Nevermind.I'm more of a Yeti, Sasquatch, Nessie guy. Maybe a little bit of the Chupacabra too. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Apr 12 2017, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Apr 11 2017, 02:47 AM) Ken you crazy fan of wild, unproven, ufo, conspiracy theories!!! Oh wait. Nevermind.The bad news is that there really is no good solution for Syria IMHO in terms of any foreign Policy position available to us. I just dont' know how we can crack that egg. It seems that the only positive thing we can do is try to provide humanitarian aid. Sadly, the proposed budget cuts way back on that. Even though foreign aid represents about 1 percent of our overall budget You see, if we bomb Assad, we are acting as ISIS air force. The big fight in Syria is between ISIS and Assad. The KURDS are holding their own and it looks like they are going to end up getting their own country by default. The KURDISH military/militia make use of lots of female soldiers. They do so for a very simple reason. The ISIS guys are told that if they get killed by a woman on the battlefield, they will NEVER get in to paradise. So they see a women with a sniper rifle, and they sorta wet themselves. They are going to defend the turf they have carved out no matter what. So we have Iranian backed Militia and ISIS going up against Russian backed (the primary source of of all of Assad's Military Arms are from Russian Contractors, sadly) This is good news for Russia in that their weapons are on display for the world to see and the 'marketing effect" was expected to raise arms shipments from russia by 7 BILLION DOLLARS. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/syri...6135130398.html "The Kommersant daily said last week, quoting Kremlin insiders and military analysts, that the "marketing effect" of the Syrian conflict will boost Russia's arms sales by up to $7bn. " So Russia is just there to do business. Especially since their economy has been in the tank (pun) ever since the price of oil took a nose dive. No worries, they can make it up on volume discounts in tanks/guns/etc. So on one side you've got the Assad regime, with enough Russian Military Gear to last til the end of time, on the other side you have ISIS (sworn enemy of the west) and various Iranian backed Militia including Hezbollah (classified as a terrorist group according to the CIA and also sworn enemy of the west). We can't really support either side and still keep any kind of "Moral Authority" or "World Leadership" or even dignity, IMHO. All we can really do is try to help the poor souls caught in the middle. The Syrian people. Did sending a few cruise missiles change anything? Nope. Just looked good in the headlines. So I'd say boost the amount of food /medical supplies/etc. as best as we can and try to help any families that are seeking asylum. That's about all we can really do, it seems.Todd , I'm scared Has hell frozen over I agree 
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Apr 13 2017, 11:10 PM
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All of my relatives who stayed in Europe were killed by Nazis. All of them. My family has no Holocaust 'survivors'.
I don't hate Germans. I'm also fine with letting Nazis march. They have a right to assemble. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Apr 14 2017, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 13 2017, 04:28 PM) But not to kill So far. This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 14 2017, 10:09 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Apr 14 2017, 10:12 PM
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American Nazis (Aryan Nation, etc.) have killed plenty here.
They can still march. It's a free country. They need to have the freedom to assemble so that I can have that same freedom to rail and rally against them and what they stand for. It's a free country. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Apr 14 2017, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 14 2017, 02:33 PM) yes they have killed , but there only 5000 ( membership ) and they have not killed lately . And I will stand with you with my guns to protect you from them Ken ! On the other hand , People have killed in the name of black lives matter , and society gets blamed . So are my fears of black lives matter justified over my fears of Nazi's ? If it comes to that I will gladly accept your help. Here's to hoping it doesn't. Neo-Nazis in this country have indeed killed folks as recently as last year ... https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/07...ashington-state There's always stuff to be scared of I guess. Nazis are are probably the better organized (and patient) as they've had a lot more time to prepare for whatever it is that they think they're preparing for. But as a wise man once said, "Fear is interest paid on a debt you may not owe". This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 14 2017, 11:56 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Apr 15 2017, 12:22 AM
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Irrational fear pretty much defines the right wing of the political spectrum these days. From 9/11/2001 until today (or 2016, depending on how you classify the Orlando attack) there have been more terrorist attack deaths on US soil perpetrated by right wing extremists than any other ideological group, including islamic jihadists.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally...ror-threat.html This post has been edited by Rammikin: Apr 15 2017, 01:34 PM -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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