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Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jul 24 2011, 10:56 PM
Jul 24 2011, 10:56 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	If you were to choose between these two skills - highly trained ears - fluid sight reading which one you'd strive to develop most and why? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

The Uncreator View Member Profile	Jul 24 2011, 11:20 PM
Jul 24 2011, 11:20 PM	Fire Up The Blades, Moderator Posts: 8.933 Joined: 6-March 07 From: St. Petersburg, Florida	Highly trained ears, as I believe it is much more difficult. Sight reading as a concept is actually pretty basic, its the speed and fluency that you must work on. Training your ears is a much more delicate and time consuming task, I think. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

SpaseMoonkey View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 12:12 AM
Jul 25 2011, 12:12 AM	GMC:er Posts: 951 Joined: 8-May 11 From: Warren, Ohio	I'm going with highly trained ears. I think sight reading is sort of cheating as is guitar pro, someone else used their ears tabbed it all out threw it up for others to use. I know cuz I wish I would have trained my ears instead of looking at guitar pro all these years. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez S770PB (Natural Flat) , Ibanez XPT700 (Chameleon) , Sterling J Richardson Signature , Squire IV Jazz Bass (Sunburst) Gear: Neural DSP Plugins My YouTube Page.

Azzaboi View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 12:47 AM
Jul 25 2011, 12:47 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.486 Joined: 23-March 09 From: New Zealand	Slight reading for me, I can normally read ahead of my playing and read it upside down, backwards, or whatever, doesn't matter. Can read small print easily. As for ear training, I need work, i can't play something just by hearing it or pick it apart note by note. Seems a real good gift to develop! I heard it's like learning colours? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4!

Michael AC View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 12:48 AM
Jul 25 2011, 12:48 AM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 342 Joined: 15-December 10 From: Newark, Ohio	Ear training is very important. It comes naturally to some people, I really have had to work at it. Sight reading is important to and not related to tabs, actually music notation. I did my first musical a few months ago and was handed sheet music with 24 songs in it, no tabs or anything. It was a very stretching thing. But my ear training helped me on parts I could not read fast enough. So ears first, sight reading second. I would like to be a session musician some day possibly and I know that takes sight reading as well as a good ear. I try not to use tabs as I have found them wrong many times (except on here of course!) LOL You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 11:29 AM
Jul 25 2011, 11:29 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (Azzaboi @ Jul 24 2011, 11:47 PM) Slight reading for me, I can normally read ahead of my playing and read it upside down, backwards, or whatever, doesn't matter. Can read small print easily. As for ear training, I need work, i can't play something just by hearing it or pick it apart note by note. Seems a real good gift to develop! I heard it's like learning colours? If you'll try David Lucas Burge's Perfect Pitch course, you'll see that he does associate colors to notes. Relative pitch training though is much easier to work with when you associate intervals with sounds which we hear around us and which are easily recognizable. For instance, I associate the perfect fifth with a medieval trumpet announcing someone important arriving at a king's court I think I've said that before in an answer to a post here but nonetheless, it always works I used to use tabs as well until some time ago, but I discovered that as soon as you'll start learning songs by ear, you'll develop a sensational skill which no other activity will help you out with. For instance, now I'm working on a combination between ear training and composition: I have to come up with some arpeggios over a certain part of Vivaldi's 'Winter'. What I did, was slow it down to 50% hear out and understand the harmonies in that specific part and then see what sort of arpeggios I could play over it's very rewarding in the end, trust me!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

zoom View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 12:29 PM
Jul 25 2011, 12:29 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 636 Joined: 23-March 07 From: Australia	If anyone is selling good ears I'll pay 5 grand All the great muso's I know have great ears. I'm slowly getting better but gee it takes time I got the Dave Burke Perfect Pitch cd's but really there's no quick solution it takes time or you just are born that way. It would be great if GMC did a bit more in this area of development. Maybe do a lesson with no tab and get members to tab out or even post back on video. And do different levels of difficultly! Just a thought. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

MonkeyDAthos View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 02:33 PM
Jul 25 2011, 02:33 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.979 Joined: 28-October 10 From: Portugal; Bombarral	i have been using Dave's Relative Pitch for a few and Fretboard Mastery by Troy Stetina, so far i ca recognize Octaves, Major's 2, Major 3, Perfect 4,5 and Major 6,7, pretty much the major scale i guess q: but i am far from the main goal, still working! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- QUOTE It's a proven fact that guitar faces have a bigger impact on tone than wood does.

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 03:07 PM
Jul 25 2011, 03:07 PM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	I would go for better ear ability. It would come in far more useful in a music / band scenario. Even if you could sight read super fast, you'd still have to be able to physically play what's written... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 03:16 PM
Jul 25 2011, 03:16 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Not really sure, both techniques require several intense years of study to perfect. I would choose both, although the ear is already starting to be trained pretty well as I go along, and sight reading, never really found the use to read notation fast enough, so don't have time for it. It's a useful thing to know if you need it all the time. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 03:40 PM
Jul 25 2011, 03:40 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jul 25 2011, 02:16 PM) Not really sure, both techniques require several intense years of study to perfect. I would choose both, although the ear is already starting to be trained pretty well as I go along, and sight reading, never really found the use to read notation fast enough, so don't have time for it. It's a useful thing to know if you need it all the time. I think much like you do mate though I do have a friend who can sightread and perform on sight almost any given piece! But he is classically trained and aside from that, he created and wrote scores for a 80-100 people whole orchestra, in order for them to perform Led Zeppelin's 'Kashmir'. He's a monster guitarist as well ... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 04:35 PM
Jul 25 2011, 04:35 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Yes, there are many people who are highly trained in this skill, it's just part of their every day activity, no big wisdom in it You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 04:42 PM
Jul 25 2011, 04:42 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jul 25 2011, 03:35 PM) Yes, there are many people who are highly trained in this skill, it's just part of their every day activity, no big wisdom in it Well, indeed, but I personally know no other like him You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Adrian Figallo View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 07:16 PM
Jul 25 2011, 07:16 PM	Instructor Posts: 3.466 Joined: 24-October 09 From: lima peru	ear for sure!, who needs to read You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check my Instructor Profile Rockers! Got a Blog too!, www.adriantracks.com Follow me on facebook and youtube! -Facebook -Youtube

Azzaboi View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 08:34 PM
Jul 25 2011, 08:34 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.486 Joined: 23-March 09 From: New Zealand	I did actually borrow that Perfect Pitch Ear Training course from someone a while back when I was still a beginner on the axe, and well fell asleep during the first disc, maybe I should try it again. It was like it was stuck on repeat and still didn't sink in much. It's a eight disc set... aww man! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Jul 25 2011, 08:35 PM -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4!

MonkeyDAthos View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 11:08 PM
Jul 25 2011, 11:08 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.979 Joined: 28-October 10 From: Portugal; Bombarral	QUOTE (Azzaboi @ Jul 25 2011, 08:34 PM) I did actually borrow that Perfect Pitch Ear Training course from someone a while back when I was still a beginner on the axe, and well fell asleep during the first disc, maybe I should try it again. It was like it was stuck on repeat and still didn't sink in much. It's a eight disc set... aww man! i actually enjoy, training licks and stuff while listening to the man You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- QUOTE It's a proven fact that guitar faces have a bigger impact on tone than wood does.

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 11:48 PM
Jul 25 2011, 11:48 PM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 24 2011, 05:56 PM) If you were to choose between these two skills - highly trained ears - fluid sight reading which one you'd strive to develop most and why? Thats' a great question. I've actually chosen highly trained ears, but I hope I can still choose fluid sight reading I wanted to create my own music more than I wanted to play other folks music so I really focused on my ear training. But after a while I really wanted to learn to site read so I took some classcial courses. It helped a TON. My sight reading could always use more work though. Being able to sight read is sorta like being able to touch type (not hunt and peck) it's a level of polish that speaks well of ones overall ability and professionalism. Can you "Make It" without? Sure, many have. Is it handy to have along the way, oh yes. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Jul 26 2011, 04:51 AM
Jul 26 2011, 04:51 AM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	highly trained ears!! I think that have the ears trained is one of the most important things for a musician, it helps to compose, to improvise, to learn songs... I think that it's a must for us. I don't mean that it's a must to recognize every interval but at least have the ability to learn songs by ear, and keep on training it. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jul 26 2011, 09:54 AM
Jul 26 2011, 09:54 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	A funny story regarding the ears and their amazing capability One day, I was shopping at the nearby supermarket and (in some places where you guys live they are common in others they may not be) a gypsy beggar was playing a darbouka. He started jamming in a 5/4 groove which totally took me by surprise as I passed by i was able to count and tap my leg with my empty hand he noticed that I understood what he did and smiled. These folks have no clue on what they are playing and yet their ears seem to have developed this peculiar capability of picking up complex rhythms which usual people and even some musicians can't use or understand that easily...strange ain't it? But native influences are important here.. I guess it flows in their blood You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

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