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Posted by: Robin Nov 12 2007, 11:23 PM
This is the 11th day without guitar so far, the reason for that is that one day I did weight lifting and alot of bending and vibrato in standard E tuning, I'm used to standard/open D/C tuning atm. I did not warm up properly and I havent done any of these things for months. I have only played acoustic with lower tuning the past couple of months, not much bending there.
It might be something called repetetive strain disorder, a mild one in this case.
The day after this I felt a little stiff in my fretting arm, so I decided to take a day off. The next day I started to feel slight pain from my elbow to my hands. It wasnt really much pain, but it was uncomfortable.
It remained the same for about 6 days, no better no worse. Then the 7th and 8th day it got better and after that till today it seems to have healed very fast, though its still not at 100%.
I just came home from the doctor, he have played guitar himself so he knew what it was all about, very nice guy btw. I said that I didnt think this was very serious because after all I stopped using my arm before I even felt pain and I havent used it for 11 days and it seems to be almost 100% healed now. He said that some people have to stop playing for life and that it started out the way it did with me, but I'm not stupid, I will of course take it chill and not play untill I'm a 100%.
The doctor suggested that I started to play very slow and easy for like 5 minutes a day, and also jogging, because it gets the blood stream flowing. Stretching aswell of course. No need for any medication aslong as I do this and take it piano.
I'm pretty sure I will be fine, but it might take two more weeks or something. Damn, one month without playing, madness!
The three first days I went crazy, but you know, they say that if you are trying to quit smoking, all you need to do is not smoke for three days. I dont smoke, but damn, the fourth day I didnt feel like playing at all for some reason, I guess it works.
I remember reading somewhere that one time Kris couldnt play for 6 months because of a injury
I'd love to hear GMC'ers experience about these things, what should I do, what shouldnt I do? What did you do? Will I be fine?
I'll be back soon, I'm off for a quick jog. Thanks.
(Damn it sucks only typing with one hand)
Posted by: Smells Nov 12 2007, 11:33 PM
Robin thats terrible m8 sorry to hear that.
Luckily enough I`ve never suffered from an injury like this, possibly come close a few times, I had an ache in my left arm from the elbow to the wrist once but after a couple of days it had gone away, I just make sure I do a bit of warm up everytime I play now.
Get better soon m8
Posted by: Robin Nov 12 2007, 11:44 PM
QUOTE (Smells @ Nov 12 2007, 11:33 PM)
Robin thats terrible m8
sorry to hear that.
Luckily enough I`ve never suffered from an injury like this, possibly come close a few times, I had an ache in my left arm from the elbow to the wrist once but after a couple of days it had gone away, I just make sure I do a bit of warm up everytime I play now.
Get better soon m8
Thanks, I will.
I do not feel any pain at all now though, just sometimes a slight tickle in one spot on my arm. Tomorrow I will start working on playing guitar, but only smaaall doses the first week.
Posted by: Bedlam Nov 13 2007, 12:07 AM
I’m going through something similar… I started feeling pain in my left hand 3-4 weeks afo and it kept getting worse and worse. I decided to stop guitar for a week and if it wasn’t better by then I’d see a doctor. Then it got worse, the tendon on the back of my knuckle separated and was going off to the side of my knuckle instead of over the top. I saw two doctors, the first had no idea. The hand specialist said I have a torn flexor in my left hand, 6 weeks in a cast might heal it, if that doesn’t then I will need surgery. 3 days after I got my left hand in a cast, my right hand started bothering me and now I have the same problem in that hand. I’m going back to the doctor today to see if they can figure out what’s wrong with me and why my hands are falling apart. I’m one week into the cast, and haven’t played guitar in more than 3 weeks. It’s been tough, but it’s more important to get back to 100% before I think about playing again.
I also thought that I had a RMI before I went to the doctor, but now think it might be something more serious, since it is in both hands.
Good luck with your injury, make sure you get back to 100% before you start up again! It sounds like you’ll be fine, just take it easy for a while. You don’t want to re injure yourself.
Keep us updated.
Posted by: muris Nov 13 2007, 12:14 AM
Sad to hear this Robin
Wish your injury isn't that bad and I guess few days resting shall be fine.
Good to know is that you aren't feeling any pain tho.
Fingers crossed!!
Posted by: Robin Nov 13 2007, 12:18 AM
QUOTE (Bedlam @ Nov 13 2007, 12:07 AM)
I’m going through something similar… I started feeling pain in my left hand 3-4 weeks afo and it kept getting worse and worse. I decided to stop guitar for a week and if it wasn’t better by then I’d see a doctor. Then it got worse, the tendon on the back of my knuckle separated and was going off to the side of my knuckle instead of over the top. I saw two doctors, the first had no idea. The hand specialist said I have a torn flexor in my left hand, 6 weeks in a cast might heal it, if that doesn’t then I will need surgery. 3 days after I got my left hand in a cast, my right hand started bothering me and now I have the same problem in that hand. I’m going back to the doctor today to see if they can figure out what’s wrong with me and why my hands are falling apart. I’m one week into the cast, and haven’t played guitar in more than 3 weeks. It’s been tough, but it’s more important to get back to 100% before I think about playing again.
I also thought that I had a RMI before I went to the doctor, but now think it might be something more serious, since it is in both hands.
Good luck with your injury, make sure you get back to 100% before you start up again! It sounds like you’ll be fine, just take it easy for a while. You don’t want to re injure yourself.
Keep us updated.
I am very sorry to hear that. I'm glad I'm so lucky that my injury isnt that serious. Mine havent gotten worse, only better, specially the last 4 days, its almost healed but I need to build my strength slowly.
How did you get your injury? Guitarplaying?
Good luck man. Even if it takes a year to get well, be patient!
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 13 2007, 12:19 AM
My advice is to seek professional help - we don't know enough to help you. You are very wise to not play when it hurts - that would be very dangerous.
I know you went to a doctor - but I really suggest that you go to chiropractor or similar. Doctors usually can't do much more than recommend pills (etc) for these kind of things. You need someone who can treat your arm and feel the injury.
Posted by: Bedlam Nov 13 2007, 12:38 AM
QUOTE (Robin @ Nov 12 2007, 05:18 PM)
I am very sorry to hear that. I'm glad I'm so lucky that my injury isnt that serious. Mine havent gotten worse, only better, specially the last 4 days, its almost healed but I need to build my strength slowly.
How did you get your injury? Guitarplaying?
Good luck man. Even if it takes a year to get well, be patient!
I'm glad you are starting to feel better.
Actually, my injuries came on without doing anything at all. Which is why it's so frustrating. My next appointment is in an hour, so I'll have an update this afternoon.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 13 2007, 12:51 AM
QUOTE (Bedlam @ Nov 12 2007, 06:38 PM)
I'm glad you are starting to feel better.
Actually, my injuries came on without doing anything at all. Which is why it's so frustrating. My next appointment is in an hour, so I'll have an update this afternoon.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Let us know how it turns out - we are concerned!
Posted by: tonymiro Nov 13 2007, 12:59 AM
Sorry to hear about this Robin and Bedlam and hope that you both recover fully and quickly. I think Kris is 100% correct about getting professional rather then lay advice for something like this. What we can offer though are our thoughts and wishes to you both.
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: Fsgdjv Nov 13 2007, 03:13 AM
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 13 2007, 12:19 AM)
My advice is to seek professional help - we don't know enough to help you. You are very wise to not play when it hurts - that would be very dangerous.
I know you went to a doctor - but I really suggest that you go to chiropractor or similar. Doctors usually can't do much more than recommend pills (etc) for these kind of things. You need someone who can treat your arm and feel the injury.
Quoted for truth.
I don't really have a lot else to say, but since I quoted Kris talking about chiropractors, I have to tell a personal story so you can see how useful they can be. When I was 10 years, I got really injured when playing footbal, and I went to the hospital, all kinds of experts looked at me, and they were like "nothing is broken, rest for a while and it'll be fine". It didn't become fine just like that, so after a while I went to a chiropractor, and they said that my hip joint was half way out of where the joint should be. ((I don't know what it's called in english, in swedish it's called "ur led") So, I got a lot better after that, and if it hadn't been for that, I don't know if I would even be able to walk now. So yeah, go to an expert!
Posted by: RobM Nov 13 2007, 03:28 AM
QUOTE (Robin @ Nov 12 2007, 05:23 PM)
This is the 11th day without guitar so far, the reason for that is that one day I did weight lifting and alot of bending and vibrato in standard E tuning, I'm used to standard/open D/C tuning atm. I did not warm up properly and I havent done any of these things for months. I have only played acoustic with lower tuning the past couple of months, not much bending there.
It might be something called repetetive strain disorder, a mild one in this case.
The day after this I felt a little stiff in my fretting arm, so I decided to take a day off. The next day I started to feel slight pain from my elbow to my hands. It wasnt really much pain, but it was uncomfortable.
It remained the same for about 6 days, no better no worse. Then the 7th and 8th day it got better and after that till today it seems to have healed very fast, though its still not at 100%.
I just came home from the doctor, he have played guitar himself so he knew what it was all about, very nice guy btw. I said that I didnt think this was very serious because after all I stopped using my arm before I even felt pain and I havent used it for 11 days and it seems to be almost 100% healed now. He said that some people have to stop playing for life and that it started out the way it did with me, but I'm not stupid, I will of course take it chill and not play untill I'm a 100%.
The doctor suggested that I started to play very slow and easy for like 5 minutes a day, and also jogging, because it gets the blood stream flowing. Stretching aswell of course. No need for any medication aslong as I do this and take it piano.
I'm pretty sure I will be fine, but it might take two more weeks or something. Damn, one month without playing, madness!
The three first days I went crazy, but you know, they say that if you are trying to quit smoking, all you need to do is not smoke for three days. I dont smoke, but damn, the fourth day I didnt feel like playing at all for some reason, I guess it works.
I remember reading somewhere that one time Kris couldnt play for 6 months because of a injury
I'd love to hear GMC'ers experience about these things, what should I do, what shouldnt I do? What did you do? Will I be fine?
I'll be back soon, I'm off for a quick jog. Thanks.
(Damn it sucks only typing with one hand)
Sorry to hear about your physical problems guys, I hope you get better soon!
I've been missing out on playing the guitar myself as I hurt my neck and it's radiating into my left arm. Hurts like hell to move my left arm or neck. I had to cancel my first guitar lesson today due to the injury. I look forward to my weekly lesson very much and to have to cancel it because I'm in so much pain hurts even more.
Bad thing about this whole deal is that I went to the DR about this today(2nd visit in two mnonths abaout the same problem) and I got an idiot for a DR. Well he wasn't even a DR he was a Phyicians assistant and was totally clueless. When I made the appointment they didn't tell me it was with the PA, this was the first and last time I'm going to that office. The guy didn't even check me out all he did was ask me some questions that didn't even pertain to this problem and then he was walking out of the office saying "well you have a follow up appointment on this date" I said hey what about my neck, he said "what about it"?? I said what are you going to do about it, he said "nothing, I'm not going to make a big deal about something that will go away eventually". DOH! Can you believe a so called medical professional treating a patient that way? I was so pissed off I told him that he was an idiot and a moron and that I'm never goign there again, what a total waste of my time!
Posted by: FretDancer69 Nov 13 2007, 04:37 AM
im sorry to hear that man, i hope you recover fast so you get back on the road. Remember that you can still improve musically with Andrew's lessons .
You know, as mean or bad as this sounds, sometimes id wish i could get a minor injury so i couldnt play for like 1 week, that way i could dedicate all that to theory because ive always wanted to get really good at it, problem is, if i can play, i wont study theory./...
Posted by: Kizaze44 Nov 13 2007, 05:10 AM
In college I broke my left wrist playing baseball and couldn't play for 8 weeks. I was so distressed that I re-strung my guitar so could play lefty, Hendrix style. Now I play righty and a little lefty, so if there's an ambidextrous guitar out there with two necks opposite each other, please send me the link. That would be cool to play!
Kizaze
Posted by: Bedlam Nov 13 2007, 05:36 AM
QUOTE (Kizaze44 @ Nov 12 2007, 10:10 PM)
In college I broke my left wrist playing baseball and couldn't play for 8 weeks. I was so distressed that I re-strung my guitar so could play lefty, Hendrix style. Now I play righty and a little lefty, so if there's an ambidextrous guitar out there with two necks opposite each other, please send me the link. That would be cool to play!
Kizaze
Here's one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rutyA12z3Ok
Posted by: Kizaze44 Nov 13 2007, 05:45 AM
Thanks Bedlam. Wow, can't believe I've never seen this before. Think I'll stick to righty!
Posted by: Robin Nov 13 2007, 05:46 AM
QUOTE (Kizaze44 @ Nov 13 2007, 05:10 AM)
In college I broke my left wrist playing baseball and couldn't play for 8 weeks. I was so distressed that I re-strung my guitar so could play lefty, Hendrix style. Now I play righty and a little lefty, so if there's an ambidextrous guitar out there with two necks opposite each other, please send me the link. That would be cool to play!
Kizaze
Excellent
I have actually tried some one-handed playing, only using the right hand with hammer ons and pull offs. Works great with open tuning.
Posted by: Bedlam Nov 13 2007, 05:52 AM
@RobM
Sorry to hear about your neck, I hope you make a fast recovery.
Update:
My hand specialist says my right hand is ok, not screwed up like the left one. It's just been overused and needs some rest. I'd go into detail, but it sucks typing with one hand.
So, in 5 weeks I get this cast off and see if I need surgery.
My membership renewal is up in 2 weeks, so I guess I won't be renewing until I know that I don't need surgery or until I am completely recovered from surgery. Anyone know if I can still participate in the forums?
Until then, I'll will be working on my right-hand tapping
QUOTE (Robin @ Nov 12 2007, 10:46 PM)
Excellent
I have actually tried some one-handed playing, only using the right hand with hammer ons and pull offs. Works great with open tuning.
haha, yeah. I tried it to!
Posted by: Robin Nov 15 2007, 06:48 AM
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 13 2007, 12:19 AM)
My advice is to seek professional help - we don't know enough to help you. You are very wise to not play when it hurts - that would be very dangerous.
I know you went to a doctor - but I really suggest that you go to chiropractor or similar. Doctors usually can't do much more than recommend pills (etc) for these kind of things. You need someone who can treat your arm and feel the injury.
I'm gonna go to a physical therapist asap, and today I started taking the pills the doctor gave me. I suppose this is more serious than I expected.
Btw Kris, I remember reading somewhere that one time you couldnt play for 6 months. How did it happen, and did you get 100% well after 6 months? I dont mind waiting 6 months aslong as I know that I will get 100% well.
One thing really sucks though, in exactly one month my band is recording a demo. Guess we just need to cancel it.
Posted by: MickeM Nov 15 2007, 06:55 AM
I hope for everyonre to heal just well. Take it easy!
Posted by: fkalich Nov 15 2007, 07:00 AM
QUOTE (Robin @ Nov 14 2007, 11:48 PM)
I'm gonna go to a physical therapist asap, and today I started taking the pills the doctor gave me. I suppose this is more serious than I expected.
Btw Kris, I remember reading somewhere that one time you couldnt play for 6 months. How did it happen, and did you get 100% well after 6 months? I dont mind waiting 6 months aslong as I know that I will get 100% well.
One thing really sucks though, in exactly one month my band is recording a demo. Guess we just need to cancel it.
don't assume worst case scenario. generally the really really bad things don't happen. most of the time it is only a little bad or moderately bad. not always, but most of the time.
just assume it will not end up a big thing. if it does, you can deal with that then. but it probably will not be so bad when all is said and done. in my experience, most of the time that is the way it works out.
Posted by: Owen Nov 15 2007, 07:00 AM
QUOTE (Robin @ Nov 12 2007, 02:23 PM)
The doctor suggested that I started to play very slow and easy for like 5 minutes a day, and also jogging, because it gets the blood stream flowing.
Quick question, does circulation affect possible straining?
I'm just asking because I have renauds, which means that the majority of the time my hands are like blocks of ice so I'm wondering if this could affect my ability to play at some point.
Posted by: Robin Nov 15 2007, 07:11 AM
QUOTE (fkalich @ Nov 15 2007, 07:00 AM)
don't assume worst case scenario. generally the really really bad things don't happen. most of the time it is only a little bad or moderately bad. not always, but most of the time.
just assume it will not end up a big thing. if it does, you can deal with that then. but it probably will not be so bad when all is said and done. in my experience, most of the time that is the way it works out.
Thanks man. I know that its not so bad that it will never get good, because I stopped playing before I noticed that my arm wasnt alright, I didnt continue playing. I suppose the real bad things happen if you continue for a long time while it hurts.
QUOTE (Owen @ Nov 15 2007, 07:00 AM)
Quick question, does circulation affect possible straining?
I'm just asking because I have renauds, which means that the majority of the time my hands are like blocks of ice so I'm wondering if this could affect my ability to play at some point.
Yes it helps jogging to get the blood flowing. Both my dad and doctor told me that. I'm also constantly freezing on my hands.
Posted by: Bali Nov 15 2007, 07:21 AM
I'm having problems also, a tenosynovitis of the left pinkie. Too bad.
I have started physical therapy five days ago, and acupuncture today.
No playing for a while. Will take it easy, trying to avoid surgery.
I have recordings scheduled for February and gigs in Europe in the summer. Hopefully I'll be fine by then.
Take it easy guys and try getting the best specialists, it's worth the time and money.
Some useful links:
http://eeshop.unl.edu/music.html
http://www.davidlnelson.md/
http://www.downloadthesoft.com/1_3364.html
http://www.handfootcare.com/hands_musicians.htm
http://eeshop.unl.edu/text/nor.txt
http://alexandertechnique.com/
Posted by: Robin Nov 15 2007, 07:27 AM
QUOTE (Bali @ Nov 15 2007, 07:21 AM)
I'm having problems also, a tenosynovitis of the left pinkie. Too bad.
I have started physical therapy five days ago, and acupuncture today.
No playing for a while. Will take it easy, trying to avoid surgery.
I have recordings scheduled for February and gigs in Europe in the summer. Hopefully I'll be fine by then.
Take it easy guys and try getting the best specialists, it's worth the time and money.
Some useful links:
http://eeshop.unl.edu/music.html
http://www.davidlnelson.md/
http://www.downloadthesoft.com/1_3364.html
http://www.handfootcare.com/hands_musicians.htm
http://eeshop.unl.edu/text/nor.txt
http://alexandertechnique.com/
Sorry to hear that, I hope you will get well soon. I'm also gonna record in exactly one month, I doubt I will be able to do that though. Even if I'm well in one month, my band still have to practice alot before the recording. Atm the worst part I think is telling my band and the guy that we're recording with that I might not be able to play. We have planned this for a while. I already tried telling one of my bandmembers that I might not make the recording. He wasnt happy, it seemed to me that he tried to make it my faulth, like I was doing it on purpose
Thanks for the links btw, I'll check them out.
Posted by: Bali Nov 15 2007, 07:31 AM
You can always tell the guys to do the recordings and you can add your parts later.
Posted by: Robin Nov 15 2007, 07:37 AM
QUOTE (Bali @ Nov 15 2007, 07:31 AM)
You can always tell the guys to do the recordings and you can add your parts later.
That will unfortunately not work. I'm the only guitarist, we have alot of stops where I play alone, and the guy we're recording with is travelling for several hours to get here. And it will cost a fortune if I have to do the guitars later. Thanks for the thought though.
Posted by: Rock Nov 15 2007, 09:19 AM
QUOTE (Robin @ Nov 15 2007, 01:37 AM)
That will unfortunately not work. I'm the only guitarist, we have alot of stops where I play alone, and the guy we're recording with is travelling for several hours to get here. And it will cost a fortune if I have to do the guitars later. Thanks for the thought though.
I had a similar problem with my left forearm. I was getting pain from the elbow to the wrist, basically tendonitis. I went to see a doctor and he said ice it and rest it. Well, I iced regularly rested it for a couple of weeks and the pain seemed to pretty much go away, but as soon as I started practicing it came right back. I did some research on the internet and found a site where the doctor specializes in similar issues and spoke about this being very common with guitar playing. Rest of course was suggested, but she also suggested filling two sinks one with hot water and one with cool water and submerse for 10 minutes in warm then 10 minutes in cool and go back and forth a few times finishing up with cool to hold down the inflamation. In addition, she suggested that before warming up to submerse in warm water only to get the blood flowing as early as possible through the muscles and then soak in cold water after practice to reduce the inflamation. I did that for one week and all my symptoms went away. Again, you should still continue to see a doctor but it is definitely worth a try.
Posted by: Robin Nov 15 2007, 07:09 PM
QUOTE (Rock @ Nov 15 2007, 09:19 AM)
I had a similar problem with my left forearm. I was getting pain from the elbow to the wrist, basically tendonitis. I went to see a doctor and he said ice it and rest it. Well, I iced regularly rested it for a couple of weeks and the pain seemed to pretty much go away, but as soon as I started practicing it came right back. I did some research on the internet and found a site where the doctor specializes in similar issues and spoke about this being very common with guitar playing. Rest of course was suggested, but she also suggested filling two sinks one with hot water and one with cool water and submerse for 10 minutes in warm then 10 minutes in cool and go back and forth a few times finishing up with cool to hold down the inflamation. In addition, she suggested that before warming up to submerse in warm water only to get the blood flowing as early as possible through the muscles and then soak in cold water after practice to reduce the inflamation. I did that for one week and all my symptoms went away. Again, you should still continue to see a doctor but it is definitely worth a try.
Thanks man. Some guys I know suggested the same thing, but I havent tried it yet. Gonna give it a shot, thanks.
As you were saying, a few times back and forth, but am I doing this once a day or more?
Oh and, first in cool and then warm? Or maybe it doesnt matter
Posted by: jeff Nov 16 2007, 01:14 AM
Sorry to hear about this Robin. I hope you're feeling better soon. You would never want things to happen like this but maybe a little time off from playing can give you some time to think about how you want your new recording to sound. Maybe during this time you can envision some new ideas in your head and then when you are healed up, which I bet will be soon, you can apply them to your songs.
Don't get discouraged. I'm sure you'll be back out there soon rockin' the house! I will be anxious to hear your songs! So now that we know you are going to record, you are REQUIRED to let us hear!
Posted by: Robin Nov 16 2007, 01:21 AM
Thanks alot man, of course I will show the recordings to everyone at GMC
Posted by: chaztrip Nov 16 2007, 05:47 AM
I am sorry to hear about the injurys.... but I am glad that I am not alone I have a case of Trigger Finger in my left pinkey.... It devleoped last year from golfing and now since I have picked back up playing guitar again it is messing with me. I went to a new hand doc last week and got a cortizone shot... that has helped but I still am lacking strength in it and sometimes it just plain hurts. In reading some of the stuff below I might have tenosynovitis ..... basicly trigger finger is caused by the tendon sheath getting inflamed and it wont let the tendon glide smoothly. I hope for all of us that we can get past this.
My Doc is on my side... he said no matter what we will get to the bottom of this and help me so I can continue to play guitar.
Chaz
QUOTE (Bali @ Nov 15 2007, 12:21 AM)
I'm having problems also, a tenosynovitis of the left pinkie. Too bad.
I have started physical therapy five days ago, and acupuncture today.
No playing for a while. Will take it easy, trying to avoid surgery.
I have recordings scheduled for February and gigs in Europe in the summer. Hopefully I'll be fine by then.
Take it easy guys and try getting the best specialists, it's worth the time and money.
Some useful links:
http://eeshop.unl.edu/music.html
http://www.davidlnelson.md/
http://www.downloadthesoft.com/1_3364.html
http://www.handfootcare.com/hands_musicians.htm
http://eeshop.unl.edu/text/nor.txt
http://alexandertechnique.com/
Posted by: RobM Nov 16 2007, 06:09 AM
QUOTE (Bedlam @ Nov 12 2007, 11:52 PM)
@RobM
Sorry to hear about your neck, I hope you make a fast recovery.
Update:
My hand specialist says my right hand is ok, not screwed up like the left one. It's just been overused and needs some rest. I'd go into detail, but it sucks typing with one hand.
So, in 5 weeks I get this cast off and see if I need surgery.
My membership renewal is up in 2 weeks, so I guess I won't be renewing until I know that I don't need surgery or until I am completely recovered from surgery. Anyone know if I can still participate in the forums?
Until then, I'll will be working on my right-hand tapping
haha, yeah. I tried it to!
Thanks I went back to the DR today and now I have to see a specialist for my neck on Monday 11/19. Sucks being without the guitar for so long, but health has to come first I guess
.
I hope that you have a speedy recover yourself (same to you Robin) and that you only need the rest that you're talking about. Being injured regardless of how it happened and what area of the body it is really sucks!
Posted by: Bali Nov 16 2007, 07:18 AM
QUOTE (chaztrip @ Nov 16 2007, 01:47 AM)
I am sorry to hear about the injurys.... but I am glad that I am not alone
I have a case of Trigger Finger in my left pinkey.... It devleoped last year from golfing and now since I have picked back up playing guitar again it is messing with me. I went to a new hand doc last week and got a cortizone shot... that has helped but I still am lacking strength in it and sometimes it just plain hurts. In reading some of the stuff below I might have tenosynovitis ..... basicly trigger finger is caused by the tendon sheath getting inflamed and it wont let the tendon glide smoothly. I hope for all of us that we can get past this.
My Doc is on my side... he said no matter what we will get to the bottom of this and help me so I can continue to play guitar.
Chaz
Tenosynovitis and trigger finger are the same thing, I'm not sure cortisone shots are a good solution long term, i'm going for physical therapy to retrain the system + physiotherapy and I'm getting better really fast, specially ultrasound, short wave + laser treatmets. There's plenty of info in the net, I think it is one of the most common hand problems, I'm now checking 'Eastwood technique' in case I need surgery.
LET'S GET BETTER GUYS!!! UPDATED JAN 08: Physiotherapy did its thing, I'm much better now, I bought a small portable ultrasound device and I'm using it everyday, also taking magnesium supplements + B vitamin
Some additional info here that applies to all tendonitis:
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/trigger_finger.html
Posted by: Rock Nov 16 2007, 08:43 AM
QUOTE (Robin @ Nov 15 2007, 01:09 PM)
Thanks man. Some guys I know suggested the same thing, but I havent tried it yet. Gonna give it a shot, thanks.
As you were saying, a few times back and forth, but am I doing this once a day or more?
Oh and, first in cool and then warm? Or maybe it doesnt matter
I would start with warm, very warm, almost hot. That will help to get the blood flowing through all the muscles. That's what it's really all about, getting as much blood into the muscles as possible. The next step of cooling is to hold down the inflammation. So if you feel you are up for practicing again, go back and forth but make sure to end with very warm just before you start practicing so your muscles are nice and warm. When you are finished practicing submerse in cold which again will help reduce inflammation. It can't hurt. I was shocked how quickly I recovered after I began this regiment and I'm 43. If you're in your 20's you should repair even faster. My issue stemmed from overuse which was increased weightlifting and guitar practice at the same time. I stopped the lifting until I had it under control and was able to continue to practice my guitar after about a week layoff. Now I am slowly increasing my workout routine and making sure I don't create the same issue.
Posted by: Robin Nov 16 2007, 08:50 AM
QUOTE (Rock @ Nov 16 2007, 08:43 AM)
I would start with warm, very warm, almost hot. That will help to get the blood flowing through all the muscles. That's what it's really all about, getting as much blood into the muscles as possible. The next step of cooling is to hold down the inflammation. So if you feel you are up for practicing again, go back and forth but make sure to end with very warm just before you start practicing so your muscles are nice and warm. When you are finished practicing submerse in cold which again will help reduce inflammation. It can't hurt. I was shocked how quickly I recovered after I began this regiment and I'm 43. If you're in your 20's you should repair even faster. My issue stemmed from overuse which was increased weightlifting and guitar practice at the same time. I stopped the lifting until I had it under control and was able to continue to practice my guitar after about a week layoff. Now I am slowly increasing my workout routine and making sure I don't create the same issue.
Ok thanks alot. I did that thing today, except that I did it the opposite way, started and ended with cold, ah well, I'll do it your way from now on
Oh and I feel much better now when reading this, I also got this from weightlifting and guitarplaying, and I'm only 18 so I should be fine. I dont really care much about getting muscles anyway so I'll never lift any weights again
I also started with this muscle lotion thing my mom had. She have used it for her physical injuries that are alot worse than mine, its supposed to be very effective she says.
Thanks again.
Posted by: Muris Nov 16 2007, 09:53 AM
Hope to see you soon on track Robin,chin up.
Posted by: Robin Nov 19 2007, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (Rock @ Nov 15 2007, 09:19 AM)
I had a similar problem with my left forearm. I was getting pain from the elbow to the wrist, basically tendonitis. I went to see a doctor and he said ice it and rest it. Well, I iced regularly rested it for a couple of weeks and the pain seemed to pretty much go away, but as soon as I started practicing it came right back. I did some research on the internet and found a site where the doctor specializes in similar issues and spoke about this being very common with guitar playing. Rest of course was suggested, but she also suggested filling two sinks one with hot water and one with cool water and submerse for 10 minutes in warm then 10 minutes in cool and go back and forth a few times finishing up with cool to hold down the inflamation. In addition, she suggested that before warming up to submerse in warm water only to get the blood flowing as early as possible through the muscles and then soak in cold water after practice to reduce the inflamation. I did that for one week and all my symptoms went away. Again, you should still continue to see a doctor but it is definitely worth a try.
DAMN, I've tried it for four days, and already the second day I noticed HUGE difference, the third and fourth day I couldnt really feel anything. I've been playing for about 15 minutes yesterday and today, with breaks beetween. The pain is all gone, I feel nothing except that I'm out of shape, so I'm still gonna continue to chill a little longer.
Thanks alot man!!! Everyone with the same problem, do this!! Its like a freakin miracle.
Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Nov 21 2007, 03:11 PM
Sorry to hear it Robin. Take it easy. i have had my share of the problems with my left hand index finger, and couldnt playfor some time, but eventually i recovered and regained my strenght. Just take it easy, wait to fully recover and then play. There will be other opportunities for recording trust me. And always warm up..
PS Look on the bright side: your practising will get a little (desired) pause and all the techniques that you learned will now be set firlmy in your mind.
Posted by: Nics Nov 27 2009, 05:14 PM
Sorry about this. I hope all going to be fine.
Personnaly, i used to feel pain on my ring finger after playing many bend. Now, i do bending with 3 fingers ^^
A can imagine how it's hard to see the guitar and cannot play :/
Because year ago, after a motorcycle accident (no to fast) i've a chronicles pain in the left wrist.
And of course, as always, i didn't see anyone for that :/ (not a good idea)
It happened that I cannot move any more the wrist during a week.
But now it's ok, sometimes i feel pain during few days but i can play.
So never ignore Medical problem.
(Please excuse my english, i'm french)
Posted by: Darknodar123 Nov 28 2009, 07:32 AM
QUOTE (Nics @ Nov 27 2009, 06:14 PM)
Sorry about this. I hope all going to be fine.
Personnaly, i used to feel pain on my ring finger after playing many bend. Now, i do bending with 3 fingers ^^
A can imagine how it's hard to see the guitar and cannot play :/
Because year ago, after a motorcycle accident (no to fast) i've a chronicles pain in the left wrist.
And of course, as always, i didn't see anyone for that :/ (not a good idea)
It happened that I cannot move any more the wrist during a week.
But now it's ok, sometimes i feel pain during few days but i can play.
So never ignore Medical problem.
(Please excuse my english, i'm french)
.......................
I wonder how you digged up this thread.
Where the hell did you find it?Did you see when it started?
Posted by: Nics Nov 28 2009, 12:48 PM
Erf, :/ i found this somewhere in the wiki about injury. With a link "forumer talk about injury" but i don't check the age of the topic -.-'
It's because i never go on the forum :s
Well sorry ^^
Posted by: tonymiro Nov 28 2009, 12:59 PM
No need to apologise and its not a problem Nic - not least as your post may help someone who may not have seen the thread anyway
Posted by: Darknodar123 Nov 28 2009, 01:07 PM
I never said it was a problem
I just found it a little weird.
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