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Sep 26 2011, 06:39 AM
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Hey Metalheads and Shredaholics (and other infectious diseased),
I was wondering what other guitarist experiences are with metal/shred axes and there favourite(s). I'm quite interested in a EMP M-II, 6 String with duel EMG 81s, floyd rose tremolo, and double cut / neck thru. It looks sexy as, plays like a dream, and it's hard for me to put down. There's something in the way it feels for me that's so natural and similar to my Les Paul Gibson feel except silmmer and faster. I also was kinda keen on a tremolo so long it doesn't kill the playing position or tuning. It's kinda pricey thou (maybe I can save up a bit more). What kind of price tag should it be? On the side note: For a cheap price I could possible score a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR, if they are any good, i've heard it's quite hot? I currently have a Gibson Les Paul Standard Double Cut 24 fret, which I love the feel of and quite enjoy as an all rounder guitar. It's possible, but just maybe lacking a bit in the metal/speed side? Anyone compared a Gibson vs EMP vs Schecter vs Ibanez Prestige? What's your favourite axe for metal/shred? This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Sep 26 2011, 06:42 AM --------------------  Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Sep 26 2011, 07:52 AM
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I agree with Cosmin's words about this. You can be a shredder with every guitar but the idea is that you feel comfortable with it so I suggest you to try every model and choose the one that feels better in your hands.
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Sep 26 2011, 08:12 AM
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Totally agree with you, a lot comes down to the fingertips and playing style/skills. I would of never thought I could shred if I wasn't for GMC, Todd's lessons and a load of practice! I find my current Gibson comfortable to jam on, even to shred. I'm not complaining about it and I love it to bits.
For the Gibsons, will they stop producing them due to the wood shortage? I'm wondering if in years to come it would become more a collectors items, if so should I be treating it with more care, I don't thrash or scratch it. I'm not looking to get rid of it or replace it anytime soon. However wondering, would you get more high gain, harmonics and cleaner metal with active pickups or do I lose out some dynamics and clean tone? I've always amired the tremolo, would a tremolo add another element of fun, dive bombing, etc, or do they just tend to get in the way? How many axes do you guys have, do you actually use them all or just pick one as a fav? Testing this guitar, the ESP M-II out, felt so natural to me. Has anyone else played it before? Fret access is very important for me, I perfer double cut guitars, but getting the balance right is tricky. This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Sep 26 2011, 08:17 AM -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Sep 26 2011, 05:23 PM
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You will loose some dynamics and warmth to the tone, depending on the pickup. But what you loose there, you will gain in clarity and sustain. What type of balance you need, it's all about experimenting with various different pickups and models until you find the one that you like the most. Try in stores, it will be best if you could feel the differences for yourself. They are hard to describe.
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Sep 26 2011, 09:18 PM
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Thanks for everyone's replies, I guess I got carried away a bit by the feeling/playablity of the guitar. The active pickups maybe however a huge issue, a bit problematic for me? The fact that they are active will make them drive the effects and amp harder, therefore the setup wouldn't run both guitars nicely without entire re-setup when swapping over? I also quite using like the dynamics in a tone. Can't you get the best of both worlds?
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Sep 26 2011, 10:14 PM
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Sure you can, it just depends what your preferences are. As I said, you need to sit down with plenty of different models and form a solid stand on what you need, based on what you tried out and what you like to play and sound. Then you can choose your best of both worlds.
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Sep 27 2011, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE (Azzaboi @ Sep 26 2011, 04:18 PM)  Thanks for everyone's replies, I guess I got carried away a bit by the feeling/playablity of the guitar. The active pickups maybe however a huge issue, a bit problematic for me? The fact that they are active will make them drive the effects and amp harder, therefore the setup wouldn't run both guitars nicely without entire re-setup when swapping over? I also quite using like the dynamics in a tone. Can't you get the best of both worlds? Thanks for the kind words  Glad the lessons are turning you to a MONSTER! The guys are right about the standard EMG active set. Less dynamics, more gain/sustain/harmonics. However you might try the new James Hetfield EMG set which are rumored to be a bit of both. As James grew to dislike standard EMGs over time for the same reason. He had an entirely new pair built from scratch with more dynamics. They are brand new and I"ve not tried them but it sounds like they might work. But I don't know if they are an option on the guitar you are looking at. Just a thought, see if you can find a guitar with them. More info on the EMG site.http://www.emgpickups.com/products/category/148/1 |
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Sep 27 2011, 07:06 AM
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Spot on Todd, that's what I might be after the EMG JH Set! I remembered you posted something about them (active pickups with passive qualities) before, I was actually going to look it up and then you post this, nice!
See if I can order a custom built ESP M-II with them installed and test it out. I'm amused, while I like Metallica and love their tone, I never actually went into thinking the ESP M-II is a Metallica Axe just with one less tone pot and a different pickup. I've also never really been a fan of signature brand, but with those Pickups I'll make an exception - more bassy and got the needed dynamics, clarity and punch of a passive pickup. This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Sep 27 2011, 07:08 AM -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Sep 27 2011, 07:56 AM
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That's some crazy 8 string monster! Maybe for those that master the 6 strings, can move onto the 7th then finally that beast. However, for those that fail at the 6th, there's always the 4 string... bass guitar, lol jokes.
I like how they test, test and retest these quality control, it will alway sound the same and was originally designed for jazz guitarist. With a Gibson, it's almost a hit or miss to what quality/sound you get, I guess each sounds unique thou. -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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Sep 28 2011, 08:56 PM
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Sounds pretty sweet, do you just focus on metal or can it do a range of styles? I do have a question about the amp used with active pups, do you use solid state or tube amp? How does it drive the amp compared to a passive pickup?
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Sep 29 2011, 06:12 AM
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Check out Bareknuckle Nailbombs. My favourite any day of the week. In fact, when I manage to get a PRS Custom 24 ( Black Tortoiseshell with Gold Hardware), those are going in straight away. I am debating on putting EMG's or Bareknuckles on my Schecter Damien FR, because it is my black metal guitar( I use it for all song writing).
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Sep 29 2011, 06:08 PM
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Interesting setup with the hellraiser, would like to know how that sounds.
Wow those Bareknuckle Nailbombs Pups are a beast. As for a PRS Custom 24, sweet as pick. I would say it's more of a classic rock style guitar. Not sure about changing pickups in them, they're designed so well with the originals. WIth a turn of the 5 way selector you can go from a Strat to a Les Paul sound. If that works just as well on those Bareknuckles I would be shocked and amazed! This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Sep 29 2011, 06:10 PM -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4! |
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