Satriani Sues Coldplay!, What do U think? |
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Dec 6 2008, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 6 2008, 12:37 AM)  Oh I forgot, no one will sue you unless you make millions of dollars from the song, we're safe  Good point! 
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Dec 6 2008, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 5 2008, 11:37 PM) This is interesting - makes me think... What if you or me happen to write something which sounds like someone else's song, and if you then get sued..?!  Better stop writing music  Or what if Paul Gilbert sues me for a pattern I thought invented Oh I forgot, no one will sue you unless you make millions of dollars from the song, we're safe I agree fully. Satriani is only sueing Coldplay because they made millions off the song. There are only a finite amount of chord progressions and riffs and Coldplay wrote there song without listening to Joe at all I'd imagine. If he wins it's just wrong because it isn't the same. Just because his solo can be played over their song doesn't mean it's copied. They don't do his solo. I hate this stuff. Gary Moore just lost a case also http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermo...wsitemID=110167 QUOTE (FrankW @ Dec 6 2008, 12:24 AM) Joe Satriani is a gentle soul. I would find it hard to believe that he had even an ounce of greed in him. It just doesn't fit his profile. It just doesn't make sense that Satch is after publicity, good or bad. He's got a legitimate case here. He could have let it slide, but he has a right to the integrity of his music. Satriani knows he is nothing and he wants a bit of cash to live. He is like most people these days. Full of greed but hopefully he loses and they get him to pay the court charges. I'd laugh forever  Satriani is a money grabber. Just because he can't make money he sues a band that does make money. He is a joke.
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Dec 6 2008, 06:21 AM
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Even Rush has run into a similar situation before. Take a listen;
http://www.musicintheabstract.org/rush-odd...ymond-scott.mp3 (takes a few seconds to download) Severals fans have reported hearing the "Monsters" section of La Villa Strangiato in a recent VISA commercial. But it turns out that it was not Rush's La Villa Strangiato at all - it was a version of the song Powerhouse which was written, performed, and first recorded by Raymond Scott in 1936. The song is very familiar to many people because of its wide usage in cartoons. This FAQ from the Raymond Scott website sheds some light on the relation between Rush's La Villa Strangiato and Powerhouse: Q: Did the rock band RUSH get sued and have to pay royalties for their unauthorized use of Raymond Scott's ''Powerhouse'' in their 1978 recording "La Villa Strangiato"? A: By the time Raymond Scott's publisher notified the band's management of the infringement, the statute of limitations had expired on the challenge. But Rush's management, out of deference to Mr. and Mrs. Scott (Raymond was still alive at that point), offered a one-time "penance" payment, feeling it was the ethical thing to do. All involved were happy with the resolution, and Rush has no further financial obligations. Under the settlement, they were not required to accord RS partial songwriting credit on the.piece. Take a listen to Stevie Ray Vaughn's playing.....Just about every lick he ever played was done before by the blues guitar greats decades prior to him....I remember seeing an interview where he readily admits this. I think its true of all of us...we listen to our favorite bands and either consciously or unconsciously pick up on licks, melodies, and techniques and use them in our own playing. This post has been edited by N4085B: Dec 6 2008, 06:43 AM |
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Dec 6 2008, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Dec 6 2008, 03:28 AM) I agree fully. Satriani is only sueing Coldplay because they made millions off the song. There are only a finite amount of chord progressions and riffs and Coldplay wrote there song without listening to Joe at all I'd imagine. If he wins it's just wrong because it isn't the same. Just because his solo can be played over their song doesn't mean it's copied. They don't do his solo. I hate this stuff. Gary Moore just lost a case also http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermo...wsitemID=110167 Satriani knows he is nothing and he wants a bit of cash to live. He is like most people these days. Full of greed but hopefully he loses and they get him to pay the court charges. I'd laugh forever Satriani is a money grabber. Just because he can't make money he sues a band that does make money. He is a joke.I hope you'r not serious in this post, even I got offended by how rude it was. |
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Dec 6 2008, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (Trond Vold @ Dec 5 2008, 10:28 PM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofFw9DKu_I .. i agree with Satrianis case. It's quite obvious really. OMG. The part where the guy mixed guitar and voice together is absolutely awesome!  Really, if they wanted to copy they should have invited Satch to play the song with them in the recording. I am quite sure he would be glad. QUOTE (enforcer @ Dec 6 2008, 04:23 AM) Man please, I am not endorsed by Satch but listen to this I dont care about the chord progression but there are 8 notes identical in both melodies and lets make the calculation, if there are 12 notes available and 7 notes in a scale that is directly related to the chord progression, probablity to make the same melody is 7x7x7x7x7x7x7x7 to 1. That makes 5.764.801 to 1. And lets say you have to use the roots to chords that are switched, as there is 4 chords progressing, it still makes 1x7x1x7x1x7x1x7 to 1 and that makes 2401 to 1. Isn't that clear? I fully agree with you. Equal Tempo and chord progression do not mean a thing. But, same melody is totally suspicious . Just look at our recording collaborations. Different people sound totally different given the same chord sequence to work over it. I'd say the probability is smaller than 2401, because not all combinations sound nice. But it would still be very unlikely they did not copy it. This post has been edited by Gus: Dec 6 2008, 01:02 PM -------------------- my "Thank you GMC!" video
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Dec 6 2008, 01:47 PM
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Hmm,I heard rumor about it but haven't really compared
both tunes until now. Chord progression is the same but that is pretty ordinary one tho. Problem is the key,melody and the tempo,just the same. Dunno,I believe court is the right solution for this, lets see what experts in this field of law gonna say. -------------------- Youtube
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Dec 6 2008, 01:54 PM
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I agree with Muris
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