Phil Anselmo: A Racist |
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Phil Anselmo: A Racist |
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Feb 5 2016, 12:42 PM |
That kind of behaviour is unacceptable. Lucky for humankind these self proclaimed superior beings didn't do all that great back in '45
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Feb 5 2016, 03:54 PM |
You're completely misunderstanding me. I'm not downplaying it at all. There's a lot of tacit racism/bigotry in metal and punk as well as in the metal and punk community - and there has been for a long time. Bands like 'Screwdriver' and 'No Remorse' are cited regularly as influences.
My surprise is that you, or anyone else is 'surprised' by this little incident. Personally, I can and will separate the art from the man. Hell, I listen to Wagner. This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 5 2016, 04:14 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 5 2016, 06:06 PM |
Sure we're almost two decades late, but better late than never - right? The white power thing has been going on (peripherally) in punk/hardcore and metal since the late 70s. It'll probably get worse as the immigrant crisis in Europe continues and the way politics is going in the US. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 7 2016, 05:02 PM |
Now that's what I call separating the art and the artist A Jewish man who drives a ford and listens to Wagner. My family's even owned a few VWs. If you can't separate the art from the person, you aren't gonna be listening to, looking at, watching or reading very much at all ... at least not much that's any good. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 7 2016, 09:23 PM |
1) Metal is not really mainstream ... and never has been so this shit can always fly under the radar.
2) Many, many, many in that community absolutely know exactly what he's talking about ... and sadly, align with it. I think it's great that you want to disassociate yourself from Anselmo but you have to understand that this is nothing new or isolated, at least in the States and England (and probably Germany). There are record companies and concert promoters that specialize in white power and anti-Semitic bands and, within the genre, there are a lot of followers and fans. The hard-core and punk scene, at least in the States, has ALWAYS intersected with the white power bands. You wanna go down a sick and f'd up rabbit hole? - just google white power bands or stormfront or screwdriver band. Again, my surprise is that anybody's actually surprised. *This is a great book. It focuses on soccer hooligans and the psychology of crowds but it's a fascinating read ... http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33460.Among_the_Thugs This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 7 2016, 09:48 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 7 2016, 10:01 PM |
Well that would make this discussion even more important, wouldn't it? Yes, it's very important. But, and maybe it's because I'm a Jew, that I'm used to it (not dismissive of it - just used to dealing with it) because it's EVERYWHERE! Artists are not immune from feeling disaffected because they can't get a job, aren't rich, can't get a girlfriend or whatever. And they, just like other folks will scapegoat somebody - Jews, Blacks, Arabs, Mexicans, Asians, Women, etc. If there's one constant in this world it's the ability for one group to blame another for their own fucking problems. This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 7 2016, 10:48 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 8 2016, 05:36 AM |
It would be so easy and so much better. But since he doesn't get it, I say let's take him down and have someone else up there instead. Well, it's all been put up there in the digital universe for everyone to see. So lets see what the 'people' choose to do. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 8 2016, 10:39 AM |
Well, it's all been put up there in the digital universe for everyone to see. So lets see what the 'people' choose to do. The people - that's you and me! What will you do? |
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Feb 8 2016, 04:29 PM |
The people - that's you and me! What will you do? I'll still listen to Pantera. Down never really did anything for me and I was kinda over it by then anyway. And honestly, I don't really listen to much metal anymore (have you heard my record? lol!). If and when anything with Anselmo comes up I will say to myself, "Nazi" ... and go from there. This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 9 2016, 12:45 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Feb 9 2016, 12:52 AM |
As long as you don't go all Al and Tipper Gore on me and start talking about censorship (Which I don't believe you would by the way) , I am with you. Otherwise, I would have to label you as Fascist. Just sayin'. Ha, ha! That reminds that I recently got the latest Kendrik Lamar record (how to pimp a butterfly) and I popped it in the car CD player ... with my 6 year old in the car. Oops! Shoulda paid attention to the warning label. I never pay attention to that stuff. And I never will. Art is art. Most of the best of it comes from a place of frustration. Occasionally that can manifest in hate. Occasionally that hate is directed at someone. And occasionally that directed hate will have an audience. Sucks but it's true. This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 9 2016, 01:17 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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