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Posted by: St.DAnger Jul 30 2007, 10:01 PM

I think St.Anger is not that bad, because those songs are angry... and i didn't want next Load or Reload, cuz i think these 2 albums are worst( but there are few great balads like Mama said i must tell). I listened to Frantic at first, and i think it's worst song from the album, but i found other song are pretty good. What do You think??

Posted by: muris Jul 30 2007, 10:12 PM

Yeah,they did something new(sound,composing style etc) which is ok for me.
But I still prefer older stuff. wink.gif

Posted by: The Uncreator Jul 30 2007, 10:18 PM

I think the main problem was the Horrible Production, it just sounded so bad to me.

Posted by: FretDancer69 Jul 30 2007, 10:23 PM

Ok, here is my opinion:

I think that St. Anger is their worst album. I think that all songs are very bad, exept for one: Dirty Window; Dirty Window is the only song from the album that appeals to me. Im not saying its an awesome song, but its the only song i like from the album.

I just hope their next album is NOTHING like St. Anger. Experimenting Era was in Load and Reload times, but this is just wrong sad.gif

Of course, they can do whatever they want. Its their music, and we have to respect that.

Posted by: Guitarman700 Jul 30 2007, 10:30 PM

Id have to agree with fretdancer here. ride the lightning is one of my favorite albums ever, and for all my metallica bashing(for which i apologize) i really like their first four albums.

Posted by: erik Jul 31 2007, 02:06 AM

I think St. Anger sucks. It's like they finally discovered that their fans didn't want bluesy and soft songs such as the ones on load and reload, and then said to eachoter "well, lets just tune our guitars down, use heavy distortion and play something random, then maybe people will like us again.."

Don't get me wrong, I love Metallica. But St. Anger is just awfull.

Posted by: Robin Jul 31 2007, 02:31 AM

Indeed it sucks. I'm not that into Metallica(yet), but I cant stand the stuff from the 90's and till now.

Kill 'em all! \m/

Posted by: ZakkWylde Jul 31 2007, 02:38 AM

Honestly, i got headaches from St.Anger when I first listened to it. It sounds so awful, especially the snare drums. Why don't they say to themselves:"Hey let's make a thrash-metal record like in the old days"?

Posted by: FretDancer69 Jul 31 2007, 02:53 AM

QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Jul 30 2007, 07:38 PM) *
Honestly, i got headaches from St.Anger when I first listened to it. It sounds so awful, especially the snare drums. Why don't they say to themselves:"Hey let's make a thrash-metal record like in the old days"?



yeah man, that drums and guitars sound awful. I dont know WHY THEY CANT UNDERSTAND that the good stuff is what they did in the old days?!? sad.gif

Posted by: SLASH91 Jul 31 2007, 04:19 AM

QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Jul 30 2007, 04:30 PM) *
Id have to agree with fretdancer here. ride the lightning is one of my favorite albums ever, and for all my metallica bashing(for which i apologize) i really like their first four albums.


Ahhh...the good old days. Ride is one great album, but whats up with Kill em all? I've never listened to it but I heard that Hetfields singing was terrible. Is this a myth?

Posted by: shredmandan Jul 31 2007, 04:30 AM

QUOTE (SLASH91 @ Jul 30 2007, 11:19 PM) *
Ahhh...the good old days. Ride is one great album, but whats up with Kill em all? I've never listened to it but I heard that Hetfields singing was terrible. Is this a myth?



All depends how you look at it.It was there first album and his vocal's are nothing now like they were then.When i first heard it i hated it,then as you become more and more a fan of metallica i learned to enjoy it.The album voice isnt as bad as he sounded live back then in 1982.I just look at it as a starting point that they really improved in but i still love the album.

Posted by: FretDancer69 Jul 31 2007, 04:36 AM

QUOTE (SLASH91 @ Jul 30 2007, 09:19 PM) *
Ahhh...the good old days. Ride is one great album, but whats up with Kill em all? I've never listened to it but I heard that Hetfields singing was terrible. Is this a myth?



well, hetfields voice is alot different, but not bad imo. The funny thing from that album is that all songs sound very very similar. But its definately a great album, specially for a 1st album.

Posted by: shredmandan Jul 31 2007, 04:44 AM

My opinion on Saint Anger is that they rushed to put something out that wasent put together right.They were trying to do something new before they knew what they were doing.James voice does not match the drop C tunings they played in,the drums are off bad,no solo's by Kirk,Rob is a good bass player but completly different than Jason.So no i didnt like the album but i still love the band and support them 100%.Sad thing is i do fill like there new album coming out in begining of next year will be similar to this over being like there older stuff.I see there point of saying they dont want to play the same thing and style over and over but at the same time they have to realize that's what made them were they are today.Funny thing is i can listen to ST.Anger and say i like this riff or this vocal ect. but it never sounded good to me all together as one.If they were playing a awesome guitar riff than James singing was bad,or if he was singing good the drums were out of this world or guitar was weak.I really hope they can pull out of this and make a great album again.It doesnt have to be another puppets or black album just something where they are all in time and James is singing like he used to with power . smile.gif

Posted by: FretDancer69 Jul 31 2007, 04:54 AM

QUOTE (shredmandan @ Jul 30 2007, 09:44 PM) *
My opinion on Saint Anger is that they rushed to put something out that wasent put together right.They were trying to do something new before they knew what they were doing.James voice does not match the drop C tunings they played in,the drums are off bad,no solo's by Kirk,Rob is a good bass player but completly different than Jason.So no i didnt like the album but i still love the band and support them 100%.Sad thing is i do fill like there new album coming out in begining of next year will be similar to this over being like there older stuff.I see there point of saying they dont want to play the same thing and style over and over but at the same time they have to realize that's what made them were they are today.Funny thing is i can listen to ST.Anger and say i like this riff or this vocal ect. but it never sounded good to me all together as one.If they were playing a awesome guitar riff than James singing was bad,or if he was singing good the drums were out of this world or guitar was weak.I really hope they can pull out of this and make a great album again.It doesnt have to be another puppets or black album just something where they are all in time and James is singing like he used to with power . smile.gif



yeah, but remember that alot of stuff was going on, like James's Rehab for 1 year, Jason leaving from the band, etc.

Also remember that the Bass in the St. Anger album was played by Bob Rock, and that was one of the contributions that led to what St. Anger came to be imo. The drums definately are horrible, i dont know what Lars was thinking huh.gif

I also have that feeling about the new album, it doesent have to be another puppets, but who knows, it might be another one or even better. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif , But thats up to them.

Posted by: Hungus Jul 31 2007, 05:35 AM

Persionally I think it is a horrible horrible album, it hurts my head to listen to it. to be completely honest I havent even listened to the whole album.. but I dont want to.

Dont get me wrong though metallica are pretty awesome and im all for their ealier stuff just not St. Anger.

Posted by: CrashOops Jul 31 2007, 05:55 AM

I think I'm the only one that likes St anger ohmy.gif

I think people were expecting the album to be too much like the older albums, and put that bias against it fairly quickly.

Posted by: FretDancer69 Jul 31 2007, 06:19 AM

QUOTE (CrashOops @ Jul 30 2007, 10:55 PM) *
I think I'm the only one that likes St anger ohmy.gif

I think people were expecting the album to be too much like the older albums, and put that bias against it fairly quickly.


well, why wouldnt we expect something like the old albums? I mean, that stuff was the best. We wouldnt be expecting something bad, like St. Anger sad.gif

Posted by: MickeM Jul 31 2007, 09:56 AM

St Anger sucks big time. If Lars had used his drums instead of beating on plate cookie jars that would have been an improvement.

Posted by: SEANCD2005 Jul 31 2007, 07:28 PM

I THINK THE ALBUM IS OK. COULD HAVE BEEN A WHOLE LOT BETTER HAD THEY PUT SOME GUITAR SOLOS IN THERE SONGS

Posted by: Smikey2006 Jul 31 2007, 07:37 PM

I Dislike most new metallica. The old stuff was good.. since rehab it just hasn;t been the same..

Posted by: Rob_g Jul 31 2007, 09:46 PM

I haven't heard the whole album but imo opinion this album isn't that bad. I really dislike the load and reload albums. But atleast st. anger is fast and heavy.

Hetfield: he has a pretty good voice in the album he just has to sing less like in the kill em all days.
Kirk: well everyone knows that album needed solos.
Lars: I was watching in an interview that he actually turned off the snare for the whole album, thats why his drumset sounded like shit. But the playing imo was better then the load and reload album
Rob: great bass player this album needed his playing. (not from Bob Rock)

I really think they got some really good rythem stuff on this album. I think if they want to come out with a great album next they'll have to reunite kirk with his wahwah pedal, Lars has to turn his snare back on and he'll be fine, Hetfield has to sing less and keep it up with the great rythem. Rob just has to put his input into the songs.

And they just have to remember there a THRASH metal band and thrash means fast, if they keep that in mind there could be a great metallica album on the way.

And imo st. anger isn't that bad just you cant really compare it to there 1st 5 albums

Posted by: deWeLL Jul 31 2007, 10:18 PM

QUOTE (Smikey2006 @ Jul 31 2007, 08:37 PM) *
I Dislike most new metallica. The old stuff was good.. since rehab it just hasn;t been the same..


I like the old stuff, but they have changed and if they wouldn't, we would moan that every new album sounds similar or equal ...

St. Anger sounds raw and loud, i think it sounds as it should and probably an album without a guitar solo MUST BE TORN in this board biggrin.gif

At first I didn't like the new album, especially the first single, i just wondered if my CD was scratched or something ...

but when I heard the songs more often, i began to like some ... St. Anger turned to an earworm ...

I must confess I also like Reload ...

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