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Feb 11 2019, 06:11 PM |
Hi Aris! Welcome back to the Army!
This thread is a follow up to this one. As you've asked by PM, we will focus on composition and technique. Your favorite styles: punk rock, hardcore, grunge, garage - rock & Roll, garage-punk. At first we will start building a 30' technique routine and analyize a few songs while I give you some basic theory knowledge that is important to start composing. Could you please share 5 songs that you like a lot? -------------------- My lessons
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Mar 27 2019, 03:27 AM |
Hi Aris, great job here!!
For transcriptions I recommend using Guitar Pro, do you know/use it? I said that both songs are like brothers (I should have said "sisters") because there are many elements that both share. The structure is similar, tempo, rhythms used, the use of minor keys, the type of progressions. "What is actually the purpose of figuring out the chord progressions of songs? Am I supposed to somehow memorise the feel of these chord progressions so I can use them in my own songs" It's the way to understand the songs, and to get which are the chords that you need to use to generate the vibes that you want or like. A cool way to get more from these analysis is to apply these elements to your own compositions. For example, you could try ideas like these: - Take the structure of one song, the key of another one, the tempo of another one, the chord progression of another one, and change a few details. Combine elements from different songs... and let me know what happens! -------------------- My lessons
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Mar 27 2019, 06:40 PM |
Hi Gabriel, I do use Guitar Pro. Maybe I should use pen & paper when I draft the transcription & then pass my notes properly into Guitar Pro. Great! it's hard for me to see where to start with in Composing and I really need tips like these. I 'll try this the soonest possible. I Hope it works for me Thanks!!!! These ideas really work to train your own composing skills. At first you’ll feel like “copying” but it’s part of the training, it’s like learning to improvise over backing tracks. You borrow phrases, make variations and develop your own voice/style. Another idea... take the chords of one song, the best rhythm of other and the tempo of another one... The possibilities are endless. -------------------- My lessons
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Apr 22 2019, 02:36 PM
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Hi Gabriel,
I tried to apply the suggested tricks and came out with a nice riff (the first riff in the below recording) Click here! After the first riff, I tried for some time to find more suitable riffs so that I can make a song out of it. But I 'm stuck because I wanted to preserve the aggression (hardcore-ish feel), but every other riff turns out more melodic. So now I am trying to identify songs in a similar style so I can get some ideas on the next riffs that I should put together. Below is how I worked to come out with the recorded riffs: 1st riff: I started by working on riff variations based on the chord progression of one of my favourite songs (Social D. - Cold feelings) The chord progression of the song is I - I - VI - III (B minor). Because the rhythm was very simple I thought I would have to change it (Along with the key) so that it is not that similar to the above song. After some experimentation, I ended up slightly changing the chord progression to: I - I - II , VI - VI - II - III in a different rhythm (close to the rhythm of the intro in rise against - behind closed doors) . The 2nd riff is the same without mutings. That would be the verse in my song. 3rd riff: This is a riff inspired again by the chorus progression in the song rise against - behind closed doors. It's the same chord progression vi - vii - I - I iii but played in a different key and every chord lasts have of the time than what is played by rise against (i.e. 4 measures instead of 16 measures). 4th riff: The final riff (octaves) is inspired by rise against injection and your lesson for Rise against style. Eventually, I don't feel that I want to keep riffs 3 & 4 in the song, but it shows how I have tried to apply the below proposed ideas for my own composing. QUOTE For example, you could try ideas like these: - Take the structure of one song, the key of another one, the tempo of another one, the chord progression of another one, and change a few details. Combine elements from different songs... and let me know what happens! QUOTE Another idea... take the chords of one song, the best rhythm of other and the tempo of another one... Maybe I need to analyze many other songs, so that I have more stuff/ideas to combine in my composing. |
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