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Posted by: Enucleation Jun 20 2008, 03:31 AM

Hey a couple or so days ago I decided I'd learn the Hirajoshi scale (which is a rather interesting sounding one I think) but the thing is I don't know howto ue it in a musical complex. I think(keyword THINK) I'm somewhat learning when to use some scales but the Hirajoshi (and probably a few others) I don't get. So, if anyone can help me out that'd be great.

The music theory classes I'm taking in College in the fall should hopefully help .

Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam Jun 20 2008, 04:03 AM

Well I know Marty Friedman is known for using the Hirajoshi scale. So listening to some of his music might spark some creative ideas and he has videos on Youtube talking about the scale.

Lesson wise, Zsolts has talked about the Hirajoshi scale in I think 1 or 2 of his lessons. I know there is a nice lick in his first lesson, so my best advice would be to learn some licks in the scale and try to mold them into your playing.
After all this is a very cool sounding scale !

Hope that helped.

Later:D

Posted by: Tuubsu Jun 20 2008, 04:11 AM

theres pretty much nothing you can't find something about in this site, Pablo has a "Hirojoshi scale lesson" It's fairly easy >
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/hirojoshi-scale-lesson/

I trust that hirojoshi and hirajoshi are same scale other one just made a typo, correct me if I'm wrong since I'm not a scale wizard.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 20 2008, 09:38 AM

Well, Hirajoshi a form of pentatonic scale, but a crazy one. It produces some non ortodox harmonies that's for sure. You can see that the two intervals within are spaced by a major third interval. Those can be pretty distinct sounding. I would say watch on the Hirajoshi scale as a natural minor that doesn't have 4th and 7th. This way you can combine it to some of the Natural minor harmonies, and in the same time practice only fifth intervals from Hirajoshi alone to create a riffing basics within the scale. Later move on to chordal work of the scale.

Posted by: Oxac Jun 21 2008, 12:18 PM

what I recommend is: Write down ALL notes in the scale and figure out which chords you can build. You can then make a chord progression, record it and JAM over it

Posted by: Zsolt Galambos Nov 5 2008, 01:42 AM

The easyest way to approach it is using the power cords. Here in Hungary we call it a quint riffing, because
you use only for example E, B. Now, this is a chord that only has E and B, and you can LITERALLY play
all the scales that has these 2 notes. For example, you can start out in the Hirayoshi and end up in E Phrygian
Dominant, wich sound really good, exotic, and metal( that's if you play metal:) )