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Posted by: Biggieholla Apr 29 2008, 07:40 PM

It's come to the point where my songs are needing vocals and so I have purchased autotune in hopes that it will ease my nontalented singing. The only problem is that I know little of how to use it? does anyone have a good link to any online tutorials, because all i really know what to do with it so far is use the autocorrect function which doesn't seem to be doing a hell of a lot. OH! and I also found how to make t-pains voice..not particularly useful though. Anyone who could give me a hand at where to start would be nice!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Apr 29 2008, 10:01 PM

Its been a while since I looked at Autotune, but there is a manual mode you can use. you have to lpay the entire file into autotune, then it gives you access to the individual noters and you can change them around.

Posted by: Biggieholla Apr 29 2008, 11:30 PM

how about melodyne? has anyone played around in that and is it better than autotune?

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Apr 30 2008, 01:25 AM

Yes, I use melodyne now and I prefer it to autotune. It is a little clunkier to get working but does a better and easier job in the end.

Posted by: Marcus Lavendell Apr 30 2008, 07:52 AM

Yeah, I agree with Andrew.
You could do great with the Autotune, but I think Melodyne is even better once you know how to use it.

Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic Apr 30 2008, 08:45 AM

I use Autotune from time to time,but only if the of key note isn't bigger the a semmy tone

Posted by: tonymiro Apr 30 2008, 09:22 AM

Couple of tutorials http://www.antarestech.com/download/update.shtml and http://www.interphase.be/ENG/news/news.html. Don't know if they're any good as I haven't had a look.

Like Andrew and Marcus I tend to use Melodyne much more - as Marcus says once you get used to Melodyne it, to me, is more flexible.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Apr 30 2008, 09:34 AM

mmm Melodyne sounds really interesting, I'll try it

Tony, great links, you nail it again !! if I need to find something I will call you for sure !!!

Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic Apr 30 2008, 12:32 PM

Thanks for the links Tony.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Apr 30 2008, 01:34 PM

Definitely - from my perspective I try hard NOT to use any pitch correction - you will end up with a better result if you take the time to record it properly in the first place. Now of course that's not always possible for a wide variety of reasons, so thats when Melodyne comes to the fore, but for me it is always a second option.

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Apr 30 2008, 05:15 PM

hi man.... i found some video tutorials http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=zdTgdluTJrE, check it out

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Posted by: Biggieholla May 1 2008, 12:13 AM

excellent, thanks for the links

Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic May 1 2008, 01:27 PM

Thanks for the link Lian.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 5 2008, 05:03 AM

I use autotune and it works good for me. However some people said me that Melodyne was better... What are the advantages of melodyne?

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn May 5 2008, 12:18 PM

I find it easier to work with - the interface seems more intuitive to me, I guess the results are similar though.

Melodynes latest allows you to tune polyphonic material as well - I am sure Autotune will catch up with that at some stage though.

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 6 2008, 06:53 PM

Used autotune before , worked really nice for me

Posted by: wrk May 6 2008, 07:07 PM

I have a general question about those pitch correction tools.
Are they used a lot in studios to correct pitch problems? Is it something like a standard routine to use in the final mix like adding reverb and delay or is it more like a secret weapon to fix mistakes?

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 18 2008, 08:21 PM

Well I guess its standard to use pitch tools to fine tune stuff around in studios..Its is well known how "they fix" some singers in final mix that way

Posted by: tonymiro May 19 2008, 12:31 PM

I would also add that Antares/Melodyne are also used not just for pitch/timing correction but also for formant shifts. Formant being the perceived quality/character of the sound - you can change a formant to make a voice sound like a metallic robot, an adult sound like a child and so on - it's a little bit like vocoding. A good example of it was the Cher record 'Do you believe in love'.

As to whether or not pitch/timing corrections should be done - well before stuff like Antares pro studios would often use a session singer to track the vocals and replace/mask. An example of this is Jam and Lewis used Lisa Loeb (I think) to provide the female backing to some of the Human League's USA recordings because the two women in the group couldn't pitch it accurately enough.

One thing maybe worth a mention - although Antares/Melodyne etc are great for correction what they can't put in is soul and feel. To me that is what helps make a great vocalist Great and why they'll always be first call in a studio - feel and soul is needed to give the humanity and warmth to a vocal .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Antipolitik May 22 2008, 03:00 AM

I know 3 good pitch softwares:

http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=182
http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune5.shtml
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=products_plugin&L=0

Waves Tone is similar to Autotune 5. It works great and it's easy to use. Not real-time.

Autotune 5 is good because it's real-time and a good plugin to "train" your pitch control.
You can loop your verse part and sing while looking at the "keyboard notes" too see if you
are in tune... hopefully you hear it too but it's actually good help to "see it" as well.

Melodyne is a plugin you use after you finished your vocal track. You play the whole song
and after that Melodyne process the data and you can then edit every note. Of course every
software have "quick buttons" so you can tell the program to fix like 90% of the bad notes.
Too good is not good because it takes away the feeling in the voice... if you know what I mean...

I use these softwares to see how much out of tune I am if it sounds really bad. I don't use
these softwares to fix my big mistakes. I resing those parts. If it's a good verse take with
minor misses I use pitch correction if I don't manage to sing a complete better retake.

Anyway, if you have any questions about the 3 plugins above just PM or post!