Sadly Yet Another Nutjob Shoots Everyone He Can. |
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Sadly Yet Another Nutjob Shoots Everyone He Can. |
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May 25 2014, 07:38 PM |
In yet another very sad instance, a young, well heeled, Californian man, grabbed his gun, 400 rounds of ammo and went around shooting folks. He posted a very nutty vid on youtube, then took off on his spree. He killed himself at the end of the spree. These incidents are deeply troubling and saddening for me and my thoughts are with the victims and their families.
Police interviewed him after seeing some earlier vids from him on youtube where he seemed to be about to snap and do something bad. However, they said he was shy and polite and left it at that. They didn't even check his room where he had his weapons, manifesto and ammunition. The only thing I can see happening here is an undiagnosed mental illness. His father is a Hollywood Director and his mother is an actress. He drove a late model BMW and was a nice looking guy. Yet somehow he could not connect with ANY women and was still a virgin at 22. I can't imagine what he was saying to girls to get them to turn off but it must have been pretty bad. I was never as good looking as this guy, nor have I ever owned that nice a car, and I'm certainly not that suave with the ladies, but I never had that much trouble hooking up. It's hard to believe that this man was playing with a full deck. Very sad. http://laist.com/2014/05/24/what_we_know_a...t_rodger_th.php |
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May 25 2014, 09:11 PM |
Actually it gets mentioned all the time. I hear about it everyday on the radio news ...
https://www.google.com/search?q=press+about...l=1&tbm=nws https://www.google.com/search?q=press+about...:en-US:official Just entries in USA today, the most ubiquitous paper in the country ... https://www.google.com/search?q=TV+news+pre...ial&spell=1 but nobody wants to pay any attention to it because they (patients and doctors and pharma companies) just want their drugs and profits. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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May 25 2014, 09:43 PM |
Anyway, over here at the other end of the ocean, we're doing fine without carrying any sort of weaponry, and violent crime rates are much lower. That's because you don't have any home-grown freaky Americans over there. Let's send you some of our nutjobs and see how you feel. Actually it gets mentioned all the time. I hear about it everyday on the radio news ... https://www.google.com/search?q=press+about...l=1&tbm=nws https://www.google.com/search?q=press+about...:en-US:official Just entries in USA today, the most ubiquitous paper in the country ... https://www.google.com/search?q=TV+news+pre...ial&spell=1 but nobody wants to pay any attention to it because they (patients and doctors and pharma companies) just want their fucking drugs and profits. This is mostly prescription painkillers. What you're saying is true, this is reported in the news. What I'm talking about is the ones that actually alter your brain chemistry, such as Zoloft, Welbutrin, etc. -------------------- He who laughs last thinks slowest. "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens Gear: Guitars: Uncle Rufus' Twanger Classic Amps: Mississippi Boom Box Mojo: Hammer of Odin and a pair of Ox gonads Inspiration: Samuel Adams Boston Lager Zero to Hero: 1,387/10,000 |
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May 26 2014, 11:46 AM |
sad, indeed . nut job, probably. First stigma society needs to get rid of is being a virgin at 22 like there was something wrong with him.just by reading your description ,if everyone talked to him like that ,"man 22 and driving a beamer, what;s wrong with you". did society give him that stigma and push him into it? not defending him, just wondering if someone could have been nice to him and helped him out But most people don't want to look at psychological issues in the family unit, they'll just blame it on him being a nut-job. I had a quick skim over his leaked manifesto. (I assume it's real, it's over 140 pages long. ); From what I saw, he did have a lot of help; therapists, 'social skills counsellors'. Problem is, he didn't want the help and blamed all his 'failure' on everything but himself. There's a lot about him feeling entitled to having sex due to just owning a nice car and having a lot of money; a very distorted view of what it means to 'be a man'. I don't think either of you are off the mark by much, but the combination of his 'issues' that led to this; mental illness, parents etc. make it hard to pin the shooting on just one thing. http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot...World-manifesto |
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May 26 2014, 01:26 PM |
I had a quick skim over his leaked manifesto. (I assume it's real, it's over 140 pages long. ); From what I saw, he did have a lot of help; therapists, 'social skills counsellors'. Problem is, he didn't want the help and blamed all his 'failure' on everything but himself. There's a lot about him feeling entitled to having sex due to just owning a nice car and having a lot of money; a very distorted view of what it means to 'be a man'. I don't think either of you are off the mark by much, but the combination of his 'issues' that led to this; mental illness, parents etc. make it hard to pin the shooting on just one thing. http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot...World-manifesto Interesting. I didn't read it. Definitely sounds like he'd developed a narcissistic way of dealing with the world, which can either be fostered by abusive or over-giving parents. I could have initially been way-off about the parents. Maybe they tried to overcompensate too much. Read at surface value it may seem like an idyllic, fairytale life but I see a lot of upheaval, lack of structure, lack of security and his hatred of women had to start somewhere. I'm just interested in psychology because it's something that is part of us every day, after all. All the shooters have reasons why they do what they do, it's never simple as we no doubt agree. But yes, the lack of taking responsibility for his life is present and correct, like most perpetrators of deliberate violent crimes. |
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